The 55 EH is Eden Blue. Wilcox car is not. Though distinctive.
Baskerville Historics 2014
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Posted 12 October 2014 - 19:47
A few photos from the Baskerville weekend,
Geoff Dodge, King Island Jaguar
Graham Soden, CFB Meerkat
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Posted 12 October 2014 - 19:54
And a few more,
Graham Vaughan, Lotus 11 replica
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Posted 12 October 2014 - 20:09
What is the History of the # 34 red / white Sports Car & the Jaguar.
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Posted 12 October 2014 - 21:19
The 34 sports car is a Bolwell Mk4B
Others could tell you the history of the King Island Jaguar, but it holds the over 2 litre sports car lap record at Baskerville with a 55.67. Ran 1.03.2 on the weekend.
A bit of interesting reading from the tentenths forum. http://tentenths.com...ad.php?t=126960
The CFB Meerkat has a 5.3 litre V12 Jaguar engine as was built in Hobart.
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Posted 13 October 2014 - 04:45
And a few more,
Graham Vaughan, Lotus 11 replica
Great pics of earlies,, with a few modern ones [EHs]
The background shots have a few decent cars too.
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Posted 16 October 2014 - 10:04
The metallic blue FE holden at Baskerville is the ex Blanchard car. It has never been registered, only ever a race car. Current owner Eddie Dobbs has been racing the car for over 20 years. A very fast car for a grey motor
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Posted 17 October 2014 - 06:25
Eddie Dobbs in the FE Holden, unfortunately with a flat front tyre.
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Posted 17 October 2014 - 21:37
Eddie was the quickest Nb Grey at the meeting....1.09.4 from memory
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Posted 18 October 2014 - 00:22
Ellis, is an FE/FC heavier than a Humpy? I can understand how they might be better handlers....with a wider track? and lower CofG 
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Posted 18 October 2014 - 00:57
FE/FC is heavier...
But I don't think the track would be wider, not any more than half an inch anyway.
By the way, 48/215s and FJs can't run in Nb.
But I don't think the track would be wider, not any more than half an inch anyway.
By the way, 48/215s and FJs can't run in Nb.
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Posted 18 October 2014 - 07:30
Ellis, is an FE/FC heavier than a Humpy? I can understand how they might be better handlers....with a wider track? and lower CofG
FE FC are a bit heavier than a humpy. As a road car they handle better though which I suspect will pass over to a racecar. The car is a deal lower in overall height and roll centre.As Ellis said the track is basically the same. Actually all Holden up to HR are basically the same track, as are LH LX UC Torana. All around 55". The rear axle shafts all interchange [except for humpy with the key driven brake drum.] Though a FE-EK housing bolts straight in. Or at least on wide spring cars.And EH-HR all are very easy to adapt. .
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Posted 18 October 2014 - 09:29
Ray,
I'm sorry but 48-215s and Fjs can and do race in Group NB. Group NB does not have a start date. It is open to any make and model saloon car that has raced as a saloon car prior to January 1965.
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Posted 18 October 2014 - 09:31
FE/FC is heavier...
But I don't think the track would be wider, not any more than half an inch anyway.
By the way, 48/215s and FJs can't run in Nb.
They can and do Ray depending on specs whether Na or Nb
Na is pre 12/57 and Nb pre 12/64
Na.....No alternators, No LSD, No Elec Ign, book says Strombergs but they also allow SU's , 5.00 x 15 rim. 195 x 65 aspect tyres
plus a couple of other bits I cant remember.
There were 2 log booked Nb FX (I from Vic and 1 from Qld )and 1 log booked Nb FJ running at Baskerville
Edited by Ellis French, 19 October 2014 - 21:14.
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Posted 19 October 2014 - 22:43
Ellis, what is the deal with wheels, drums and hubs for Nb FJs?
I have had a bit to do with Rob Southwoods 48 Na and that has to use FE drums, axles and then has an adapter to use FJ rims. I presume the same applies to Nb with wider rims?
As for odd models the 50s Citroen that races is classed as Nc. Evidently because one raced in that period
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Posted 20 October 2014 - 01:48
The Citroen that races in Victoria is the original car raced in the period by John Johansen-Weaver. It is a Certificate of Description car.
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Posted 20 October 2014 - 02:47
The Citroen that races in Victoria is the original car raced in the period by John Johansen-Weaver. It is a Certificate of Description car.
But totally out of place as a Nc car. An interesting car and as an Na or b car would fit in but with a pile of cars 10 years at least newer is out of place
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Posted 20 October 2014 - 22:52
Ellis, what is the deal with wheels, drums and hubs for Nb FJs?
I have had a bit to do with Rob Southwoods 48 Na and that has to use FE drums, axles and then has an adapter to use FJ rims. I presume the same applies to Nb with wider rims?
Yes Lee same deal......
Due to the habit of Humpies breaking the old hubs and tapered axles we can run later FE etc hubs , axles and stubs ..
Most of the "adaptors" are really strengthenning plates as the (mostly aftermarket Croft etc ) brake drum is used with multiple 13" and 15 " pattern. You can still run the original system if you are game. I think NSW was the last to permit the use of the 13/15 stuff....it depended on each States eligibilty officer it seems.
Edited by Ellis French, 20 October 2014 - 22:56.
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Posted 21 October 2014 - 11:54
Yes Lee same deal......
Due to the habit of Humpies breaking the old hubs and tapered axles we can run later FE etc hubs , axles and stubs ..
Most of the "adaptors" are really strengthenning plates as the (mostly aftermarket Croft etc ) brake drum is used with multiple 13" and 15 " pattern. You can still run the original system if you are game. I think NSW was the last to permit the use of the 13/15 stuff....it depended on each States eligibilty officer it seems.
How stable are those drums? It does seem rather fragile as an adapter with sticky race tyres. A 1/2, better 3/4" thick alloy adapter supporting the drum over the axle would be better. Widening the track will not hurt either 
Though really just using a Volvo 15" rim on the FE bolt pattern is stronger and safer again. Those FJ rims are 60 years old and were not terribly strong then!
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Posted 21 October 2014 - 20:45
How stable are those drums? It does seem rather fragile as an adapter with sticky race tyres. A 1/2, better 3/4" thick alloy adapter supporting the drum over the axle would be better. Widening the track will not hurt either
Though really just using a Volvo 15" rim on the FE bolt pattern is stronger and safer again. Those FJ rims are 60 years old and were not terribly strong then!
The new finned drums are cast and machined by Keith Croft in Sydney and are very good quality.
They also fit on the Nb EH's and Rear of XU1's.
My rims are new with the thicker FJ centres
Some do use Volvo and one uses Landrover .
