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#1 HistoryFan

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Posted 11 October 2014 - 21:34

In 1989 there were 39 f1 seats for one race. Today we have 22 cars. So if there were 39 f1 cars, which 17 drivers do you think should drive F1?

 

My suggestions are:

 

1. Fabio Leimer
2. Sam Bird
3. Rubens Barrichello

4. Sébastien Buemi
5. Jaime Alguersuari
6. Davide Valsecchi
7. Timo Glock
8. Heikki Kovalainen
9. Simon Pagenaud
10. Will Power
11. Felipe Nasr
12. André Lotterer
13. Antonio Felix da Costa
14. Stoffel Vandoorne
15. Raffaele Marciello
16. Robin Frijns

17. Giedo van der Garde



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#2 SpartanChas

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Posted 11 October 2014 - 21:41

Bird
Evans
Vandoorne
Marciello
Frijns

Sainz
Silvestro
Calado
Da Costa
Di Resta
Buxton
Senna
Glock
Lynn
Conway
Pagenaud
Power

Edited by SpartanChas, 11 October 2014 - 21:43.


#3 SpaceHorseParty

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Posted 11 October 2014 - 21:51

Bird, Buemi, Conway, da Costa, Frijns, Glock, di Grassi, Heidfeld, Kovalainen, Lotterer, Marciello, Nasr, Power, Sainz, Senna, Vandoorne, Wickens



#4 scheivlak

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Posted 11 October 2014 - 21:56

Quick, lighthearted list: 

 

1.       Stoffel Vandoorne

2.       Simon Pagenaud

3.       Will Power

4.       Max Verstappen

5.       Nick Heidfeld

6.       Scott Dixon

7.       Jack Hawksworth

8.       Jolyon Palmer

9.       Sebastian Buemi

10.   André Lotterer

11.   Pascal Wehrlein

12.   Heikki Kovalainen

13.   Robin Frijns

14.   Carlos Sainz jr

15.   Mike Conway

16.   Simone de Silvestro

17.   Franck Montagny



#5 Kenstate

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Posted 11 October 2014 - 22:12

I have never really followed lower tier racing, but why isn't jolyon palmer more highly regarded than say, a felipe nasr or van doorne? Aren't their cars basically spec?



#6 scheivlak

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Posted 11 October 2014 - 22:26

I have never really followed lower tier racing, but why isn't jolyon palmer more highly regarded than say, a felipe nasr or van doorne? Aren't their cars basically spec?

He's certainly better than Nasr!

 

But Vandoorne is in his first year of GP2 while Palmer is in his fourth. And apart from that, Vandoorne is screwed time and again strategically by his utterly stupid team. Today was no exception. As the Sky commentators said, his performance was like Hamilton's in Singapore with the difference that he had to do it in a same spec car. And so - still having to make a pitstop that others already had made during the SC period - he finished 5th in a race where he was totally in a class of his own and set FL after FL.

 

That said, I think Palmer should have his chance at F1 as well.



#7 JeordieX

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Posted 11 October 2014 - 22:56

Verstappen
Webber
di Resta
Kovalainen
Frijns
Vandoorne
Sainz
Palmer
Nasr
Wittmann
Bird
Buemi
di Grassi
Alguersuari
Marciello
Senna
Petrov

#8 ezequiel

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Posted 11 October 2014 - 23:21

Frijns, De Silvestro, Di Grassi, Duval, Buemi, Lotterer, Vandoorne, Bird, Palmer, Power, Pagenaud, Dixon, Castroneves, Lynn, Stoneman, Wittmann, López (José María  ;))



#9 ezequiel

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Posted 11 October 2014 - 23:25

^^ I should've named Mike Conway too



#10 DainBramaged

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Posted 11 October 2014 - 23:46

In no particular order

 

Sam Bird 

Stoffel Vandoorne

Luiz Razia

Jolyon Palmer

Dario Franchitti (well it's a game)

AF Da Costa

Will Stevens

Jerome D'ambrosio 

Sergey Sirotkin

Will Power

Lucas di Grassi

Heikki Kovalainen

Paul Di Resta 

Gary Paffet

Carlos Sainz Jr

Simona De Silvestro

Robin Frijns

 

It was kinda hard to choose to be honest. Think I had about 25 names to choose from, probably more if I did more thinking and research.


Edited by DainBramaged, 11 October 2014 - 23:47.


#11 jonpollak

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Posted 12 October 2014 - 00:19

lol @Will Power

Jp



#12 Afterburner

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Posted 12 October 2014 - 01:07

The young'uns are in GP2 for a reason. If you filled out the grid right now I think you'd get more people from the
Formula E and Indycar fields, and then a few others, notably Dixon, Power, Pagenaud, Conway, Buemi, Alguersuari, Petrov, di Resta, Kovalainen, Prost, and Heidfeld. The remainig six spots *might* go to younger drivers in junior series, but I think we'd have had a lot fewer rejects if the grid were bigger, so the majority of the extra seventeen spots would not go to newcomers.

#13 Ross Stonefeld

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Posted 12 October 2014 - 02:13

Problem is you wouldn't get another 17 top-notch drivers. You'd get some real wtf-ness. Hell I'd probably appear in something, ten seconds off the pace of my teammate but with a bizarre sponsorship portfolio. 



#14 Nikos Spagnol

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Posted 12 October 2014 - 04:34

Bertaglia

Moreno

Foitek

Danner

Tarquini

Dalmas

Gachot

Johansson

Martini

Joachim Wilkenholck

Raphanell

Volker Weidler

Brundle

Modena

Perez-Sala

Suzuki

Schneider

 

:drunk:



#15 HammyHamiltonFan

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Posted 12 October 2014 - 04:37

Sam Bird definitely deserves a chance, Jolyon Palmer also



#16 sopa

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Posted 12 October 2014 - 08:49

Well, I imagine a fair few of the teams would be barely able to survive and most of the additional teams would be right at the back of the field. In 1989 we had lots of no-hopers in the form of current Marussia/Caterham. Just the unreliability rates were higher, so sometimes they even got points. In 1990 we had that famous Life as well.:)

 

I don't think the IndyCar elite would be in F1. In 1989 the CART stars like Andrettis, Fittipaldi, Rahal, etc, were still in America. So I expect Power, RHR, Montoya, Castroneves, etc to make a career in IndyCar rather than "make up the numbers" at the back of F1 grid.

 

Perhaps some of Alguersuari, Buemi, Kovalainen, Petrov, etc would indeed be F1 like currently Kobayashi - be the experienced lead driver of a backmarker team.

Perhaps some from GP2 or other feeder series, who have hanged on for long there already, would have made it into F1, like Cecotto jr, Palmer, Valsecchi, Leimer, etc. But they would be gone after a season or two again, just like D'Ambrosio, di Grassi, and others were. Although were there more seats, some of them could even have a sort of a career there. For example like Piercarlo Ghinzani, Nicola Larini or Gabriele Tarquini had in late 1980s, early 1990s. Drove year after year in rubbish cars in F1.

 

And some guys from current DTM, who were previously in some junior formula series, but couldn't continue pursuing F1 dream at the time.

 

So yeah, basically we'd have more of the di Grassis, d'Ambrosios, Pics, Sennas, Petrovs, van der Gardes in F1, with some of the more experienced/older drivers in the mix as well for good measure. Remember, in 1990 38-year-old Bruno Giacomelli made a comeback in Life to have some fun. :p



#17 lars75

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Posted 12 October 2014 - 10:25

I have never really followed lower tier racing, but why isn't jolyon palmer more highly regarded than say, a felipe nasr or van doorne? Aren't their cars basically spec?

 

https://www.driverdb...iz-felipe-nasr/

 

https://www.driverdb...ffel-vandoorne/

 

https://www.driverdb.../jolyon-palmer/

 

Here is your anwser I think!



#18 lars75

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Posted 12 October 2014 - 10:35

The other drivers (which are ready for F1) who should be on the grid in 2015 next to the others racing now:

 

- Vergne

- Frijns

- Stoffel Vandoorne

- Felipe Nasr

- Jolyon Palmer

- Sainz jr

- Mehri

- Lynn

- Wehrlein

- vd Garde

- C. Pic

- Algeursuari



#19 garoidb

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Posted 12 October 2014 - 10:39

Problem is you wouldn't get another 17 top-notch drivers. You'd get some real wtf-ness. Hell I'd probably appear in something, ten seconds off the pace of my teammate but with a bizarre sponsorship portfolio. 

 

That is it. It would most likely be a stream of guys we never saw coming and who disappear into oblivion after a year or two (probably with their teams, the owners of which will have gone to jail). 



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#20 Ross Stonefeld

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Posted 12 October 2014 - 11:17

Having consulted overnight with my 'investors' I've decided to be an owner-driver.



#21 Wingcommander

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Posted 12 October 2014 - 13:11

If it was 1989, all we would have seen all season would have been a Mercedes car. And possibly a Lotus retiring.



#22 ezequiel

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Posted 12 October 2014 - 14:25

Bertaglia

Moreno

Foitek

Danner

Tarquini

Dalmas

Gachot

Johansson

Martini

Joachim Wilkenholck

Raphanell

Volker Weidler

Brundle

Modena

Perez-Sala

Suzuki

Schneider

 

:drunk:

 

Well, Tarquini and Schneider are still racing so...



#23 MAMBA

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Posted 12 October 2014 - 15:06

You forgot Suzi Wolff!

 

MAMBA



#24 SR388

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Posted 12 October 2014 - 17:48

Why not Sato?