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#1 f1steveuk

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Posted 20 October 2014 - 11:32

I've just been asked to identify a picture, which was very easy, Francois Cevert, Watkins Glen, 1973, Tyrrell 006/3. The thing that caught my eye is that the car is running with the side radiator pods, that had, for the latter part of the season, been removed, and even other pictures from Watkins Glen show the car without them. Can anyone confirm that 006/3 ran with these side pods, and in what session/sessions?



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#2 Tim Murray

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Posted 20 October 2014 - 12:02

No mention by Pete Lyons in his Autosport report.

 

 

ETA: ...or by Alan Henry in MN. Both reports note that all three Tyrrells were running in front-radiator configuration.


Edited by Tim Murray, 20 October 2014 - 12:11.


#3 f1steveuk

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Posted 20 October 2014 - 12:35

I thought Amon's 005 had the "chisel nose", so there's another spanner in the works!!



#4 alansart

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Posted 20 October 2014 - 12:45

A quick read of Motor Sport says that 006/3 was a new tub that had been sent over to replace 006/1 that had been damaged in Canada.

It also states that Amon's Tyrrell was put back to snub nose/front radiator for Watkins Glen.



#5 f1steveuk

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Posted 20 October 2014 - 15:02

Ok, that clears up Amon's car. I know 006 was "tweaked" inFrancois' collision with Hunt in Canada, hence the build up of 006/3, which is why I'm curious. Why build up a car to an old spec', then instantly change it to the newer spec, why not just build it up to current spec'?



#6 D-Type

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Posted 20 October 2014 - 19:27

~. Why build up a car to an old spec', then instantly change it to the newer spec, why not just build it up to current spec'?

It might have depended on what parts were available 'back at base' and 'in the field' and what could be cannibalized from the damaged car


Edited by D-Type, 20 October 2014 - 19:28.


#7 funformula

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Posted 20 October 2014 - 19:27

Are you sure the picture in question was taken in 1973 rather than in 1972?

All pictures from 1973 I found are showing the cars without side radiators.

The following picture from www.trackthoughts show Stewarts and Ceverts cars in the pit lane on saturday with chief mechanics Roger Hill and Jo Ramirez

http://www.google.de...ved=0CGsQrQMwFw


Edited by funformula, 24 October 2014 - 17:45.


#8 MCS

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Posted 20 October 2014 - 19:51

A quick read of Motor Sport says that 006/3 was a new tub that had been sent over to replace 006/1 that had been damaged in Canada.

It also states that Amon's Tyrrell was put back to snub nose/front radiator for Watkins Glen.

Well, we have seen photographic evidence of Amon's car to that effect on here previously - how we find that is another matter of course...



#9 funformula

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Posted 20 October 2014 - 20:19

A quick read of Motor Sport says that 006/3 was a new tub that had been sent over to replace 006/1 that had been damaged in Canada.

It also states that Amon's Tyrrell was put back to snub nose/front radiator for Watkins Glen.

 

Chris Amon in Watkins Glen 1973

http://www.autoracin...=39518&page=158



#10 f1steveuk

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Posted 21 October 2014 - 09:28

Yep, convinced it's 73 and the Glen.  The black and white picture shows th car it the spec' I am used to for that race, the colour one has the Glen extra decals (the "Enjoy" sticker in white by the electrical cut off position decal) AND apparently, radiator side pods (and a French flag in front of "Cevert").

 

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Edited by f1steveuk, 21 October 2014 - 09:36.


#11 funformula

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Posted 21 October 2014 - 10:42

According to this website, it´s Cevert in Anderstorp/Sweden in 1973

http://www.google.de...d=0CEgQrQMwFjhk



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Posted 21 October 2014 - 11:03

If that is Sweden, it has the wrong mirrors (Sweden, chrome bullets on three stalks, from Monza onwards, the black plastic Britax ones in both pictures) and the "Enjoy" sticker was only used at the Glen and Canada (and only Amon and Cevert), so I would venture that the website is wrong, as I think the colour picture is a practice session in Canada. The telltale for the Glen is the additional sticker in the front centre of the cockpit surround.

 

Strangely, footage of Cevert in Canada appears to show a sidepod on one side, and not the other!!


Edited by f1steveuk, 21 October 2014 - 13:52.


#13 Rob Ryder

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Posted 21 October 2014 - 15:37

..the colour one has the Glen extra decals (the "Enjoy" sticker in white by the electrical cut off position decal) AND apparently, radiator side pods (and a French flag in front of "Cevert")

Cevert's Tyrrell had both 'Enjoy' decal and French flag at the Canadian GP in 1973...

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Posted 21 October 2014 - 16:05

Lol........ well I can verify that the black and white shot is from the Glen as it is from my father's archives......



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Posted 22 October 2014 - 13:07

That's why I didn't post pictures at first, as I didn't know whose it was. It's an excellent shot, if there's a problem with it being here just let me know.

 

Yes the colour one is 006 in Canada, theshot I am trying to clarify (which I also don't want to post just yet) is the Glen, it has the extra sticker in the middle front of the cockpit surround that only appeared at the Glen.



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Posted 22 October 2014 - 15:56

Not a problem. Let me know if there are any other photos I  can assist with.

 

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Posted 22 October 2014 - 16:04

According to this website, it´s Cevert in Anderstorp/Sweden in 1973

http://www.google.de...d=0CEgQrQMwFjhk

No such trackside bank at Anderstorp, which is completely flat. The circuit was built on marshland. And is the Armco light blue? If so, that would suggest upstate New York.



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Posted 22 October 2014 - 16:54

That's why I didn't post pictures at first, as I didn't know whose it was. It's an excellent shot, if there's a problem with it being here just let me know.

 

Yes the colour one is 006 in Canada, theshot I am trying to clarify (which I also don't want to post just yet) is the Glen, it has the extra sticker in the middle front of the cockpit surround that only appeared at the Glen.

The font for the numeral "6" is quite different also, at Watkins Glen it has a noticeably narrower width.   This is also apparent from another WG73 shot I've seen where the car is next to Stewart's #5  - The numbers on the sidepods have mismatched fonts between the two.cars.

It must have been cut from a different mylar number set after the Canadian GP accident / rebuild.



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Posted 23 October 2014 - 08:22

Everything points 100% to the mystery picture (I'm awaiting permission to post, but it is nothing special)  being Watkins Glen, and the car being 006/3, but it has the side rad's. I'd guess i was built up, then instantly changed to front and under rear wing cooling, it just seems an awful lot of effort!



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Posted 24 October 2014 - 18:06

Everything points 100% to the mystery picture (I'm awaiting permission to post, but it is nothing special)  being Watkins Glen, and the car being 006/3, but it has the side rad's. I'd guess i was built up, then instantly changed to front and under rear wing cooling, it just seems an awful lot of effort!

 

Just had a look in Jo Ramirez biography where he described the Watkins Glen GP-Weekend and the Cevert accident.

"When we arrived in Watkins Glen a new chassis had arrived via New York and was waiting for us to build up. Sadly it wasn´t built up for long, as on the Saturday morning practice, when he was fourth fastest, Francois lost control at the fast esses before the straight.(...)A man of many talents, beside his looks, natural charm and driving skills he was an accomplished pianist. Only the night before, he´d played the piano at the Seneca Lodge, the popular place to stay, a hotel(...)where everybody used to meet after rebuilding days or practice days, for food and drink and cameradie. Francois had played the Mexican Hat Dance, which I danced with Colin Chapman´s secretary."

 

I don´t know how much time effort it would take to change the Tyrrell 006 from side radiators to front radiator but it must have been done between the end of Friday practice and the evening, allowing the chief mechanic some time for party and dancing.