Rate the Brazilian GP!
#1
Posted 09 November 2014 - 17:39
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#2
Posted 09 November 2014 - 17:45
DRS spoiled it, but it was still an exciting race and above the average.
8
#3
Posted 09 November 2014 - 17:49
Decent enough racing and some uncertainty on the tyres, but overall no real drama that we come to expect from Brazil. So I say 7.
#4
Posted 09 November 2014 - 17:50
Pretty good race.
#5
Posted 09 November 2014 - 17:53
Worst Driver Vergne
#6
Posted 09 November 2014 - 18:03
Good race, shame that Hamilton had that spin.
Tires were a bit too soft, didn't allow drivers to push in the middle sector.
#7
Posted 09 November 2014 - 18:10
Worst Driver -
#8
Posted 09 November 2014 - 18:17
#9
Posted 09 November 2014 - 18:25
Decent close racing, still not too many memorable moments.I wish there would have been some rain to spice things up.
#10
Posted 09 November 2014 - 18:33
Best Driver: Kimi Räikkönen. This seemed a competent drive and he did something decent with his strategy.
Worst Driver: Perhaps I missed something that explains his finishing position, but Magnussen seemed unimpressive considering how competitive Button was.
Best Team: Mercedes, once more utterly dominant.
Best Overtake: Vettel on Räikkönen was nice and opportunistic. Better still: it wasn't a DRS pass.
Best Moment: Perhaps the first proper use of the rotating camera, a great shot of that overtake into Descida do Lago.
DRS + Tyres: Bad all around. Because of the nature of this track, DRS has a much greater influence on the race than at other events. The tyres seemed too soft, and I wonder if Pirelli maybe shouldn't have caved in so easily to the complaints by Massa et al.
And the race in a sentence: Average race, and a bit disappointing compared to previous races at this track.
#11
Posted 09 November 2014 - 18:33
#12
Posted 09 November 2014 - 18:42
Funny.
I remember the ''old days'' of my F1 fandom - early 80's through the 90's. This race would have been an instant classic as battles for the lead [as well as lots of passing] were extremely rare, as were close finishes.
Now, for the ''new'' fan, it is simply ''meh''.
#13
Posted 09 November 2014 - 19:29
It was certainly one of the better races in 2014, of which there have been very few in my opinion.
I enjoyed the Alonso Kimi battle. Something we have waited all year to see.
DRS made some battles look easy though.
7/10 Best since Canada.
#14
Posted 09 November 2014 - 19:33
Funny.
I remember the ''old days'' of my F1 fandom - early 80's through the 90's. This race would have been an instant classic as battles for the lead [as well as lots of passing] were extremely rare, as were close finishes.
Now, for the ''new'' fan, it is simply ''meh''.
Blame DRS. It exacerbated to difference between fresh and old rubber and nearly nulified whoever tried a different strategy.
It would have been a whole different race if Rosberg and Hamilton had had to work harder to get their positions back after their first pits.
#15
Posted 09 November 2014 - 19:38
some fun fights, Lewis following Rosberg for the lead was quite exciting for a while, but I think the new surface and to much tyre degradation didn't help
I expected a little more drama with the weather, but it was a good race overall I gave it a 7...
Edited by SPBHM, 09 November 2014 - 19:38.
#16
Posted 09 November 2014 - 19:39
Blame DRS. It exacerbated to difference between fresh and old rubber and nearly nulified whoever tried a different strategy.
It would have been a whole different race if Rosberg and Hamilton had had to work harder to get their positions back after their first pits.
What do you mean blame it? What he's saying is a good thing- races that would have used to be seen as amazing are now average, whereas the now amazing races are unheard of in the other era.
Edited by StefanArak, 09 November 2014 - 19:39.
#17
Posted 09 November 2014 - 20:29
I'm feeling generous and its the last race of the season for me, so I voted 7/10
Could have been a lot better, could have been worse.
#18
Posted 09 November 2014 - 20:50
Gave it a 7/10
I'm voting 0/10 in Abu Dhabi on principle.
#19
Posted 09 November 2014 - 20:59
Dull but I thought Lewis did a solid drive despite his mistake.
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#20
Posted 09 November 2014 - 21:01
Worst Driver- Nobody stood out as terrible... maybe Magnussen, because he really needs to stand out for the right reasons, and didn't.
Best Team- Mercedes
Best Overtake- Don't remember 'best', but the two Ferrari's had a nice scrap
Best Moment- When LH purpled by some margin in an attempt to undercut, but alas....
DRS + Tyres- DRS not really needed, tyres ok, even with lots of blistering
And the race in a sentence... Usual Brazil- 7/10.
#21
Posted 09 November 2014 - 21:14
Raikkonen getting best driver for finishing 7th, again behind his teammate.
#22
Posted 09 November 2014 - 21:20
I'm feeling generous and its the last race of the season for me, so I voted 7/10
Could have been a lot better, could have been worse.
Surprise surprise!
#23
Posted 09 November 2014 - 21:40
Would have made the struggle a bit easier if he hadn't lost an additional 5 seconds in the pitsRaikkonen getting best driver for finishing 7th, again behind his teammate.
He finished two seconds behind Alonso ^^
Edited by tmekt, 09 November 2014 - 21:42.
#24
Posted 09 November 2014 - 21:45
Raikkonen getting best driver for finishing 7th, again behind his teammate.
No drive is perfect, and neither was Kimi's, but I think he did a good job with his strategy to finish so close behind Alonso. It was good to see the Ferrari's going at it side by side, and it's what I - and I'm sure many with me - were hoping for when this line-up was announced last year.
Since this is all relative I figured this race was as good as any to give Kimi the nod. None of the other drivers did something exceptional either, at least as far as I could see.
Edited by Nonesuch, 09 November 2014 - 21:46.
#25
Posted 09 November 2014 - 21:45
Best Driver: In the race itself, probably Button, who desperately needs a seat next year, but for the whole weekend has to be Rosberg, who was top in every session. Though he didn't have a pace advantage today, he did keep calm and keep Hamilton at bay. He's showed signs of feeling the pressure recently but today was just what he needs to mess with Hamilton's head a little bit before Abu Dhabi.
Worst Driver: Not really any clangers out there. Hamilton lost the win with a mistake, but it'd be outrageous to say he was the worst driver out there. Perhaps Bottas should have recovered better than he did given that Massa cocked up twice in the pits and still cruised to third. Also very subdued drives from Magnussen and Perez, highlighted by strong performances from their respective teammates.
Best Team: Mercedes. Impressive that their advantage is as big as ever, if not so good for we non-Merc fans.
Best Overtake: Perhaps Alonso on Magnussen. Some good racing out there today. Alonso also pulled off a great move on Raikkonen, as did Button and Vettel. The WDCs really showed how it's done today.
Best Moment: ..speaking of which, how cool was that Button-Raikkonen-Vettel scrap? As I said in the race thread, I was enjoying a great fight between two world champions when suddenly Vettel gets involved as well. Really great stuff. Really happy for Massa too.
DRS/Tyres: DRS looked a wee bit overpowered (do we really need two zones here?) and clearly the tyres suffered in the hotter-than-expected conditions. Seemed to improve as the track cooled though, so perhaps it worked out for the best.
And the race in a sentence: Really enjoyable afternoon's motorsport on a great track with a fabulous atmosphere. 8/10.
#26
Posted 09 November 2014 - 21:57
Surprise surprise!
Care to elaborate what you are getting at? Sorry, I don't get it.
#27
Posted 09 November 2014 - 22:12
Care to elaborate what you are getting at? Sorry, I don't get it.
Mercedes 1-2 in qualifying, easy Mercedes 1-2 in the race. Previously such results (when Hamilton has won) would have had you complaining (in multiple threads, multiple times) about just how boring the race was. Today with Nico winning you give it 7/10. However to be fair you did mention previously that a different winner would make it a better race for you.
#28
Posted 09 November 2014 - 22:24
Mercedes 1-2 in qualifying, easy Mercedes 1-2 in the race. Previously such results (when Hamilton has won) would have had you complaining (in multiple threads, multiple times) about just how boring the race was. Today with Nico winning you give it 7/10. However to be fair you did mention previously that a different winner would make it a better race for you.
By 'different winner' I meant a non-Merc and I suspect you know that.
I'm no fan of Nico's and tbh I don't give a damn who wins the title, him or Lewis.
I did enjoy the racing today mid-pack, especially the Button-Raikkonen and Alonso-Raikkonen battles and that is the reason I gave it 7/10. Nothing to do with the winner whatsoever.
Edited by Longtimefan, 09 November 2014 - 22:26.
#29
Posted 09 November 2014 - 22:25
For Brazil standards it was pretty weak TBH. Normally expect a much more thrilling race here.
#30
Posted 09 November 2014 - 22:32
Overall a quite entertaining race I think, so 8/10 it is.
#31
Posted 09 November 2014 - 22:37
By 'different winner' I meant a non-Merc and I suspect you know that.
I'm no fan of Nico's and tbh I don't give a damn who wins the title, him or Lewis.
I did enjoy the racing today mid-pack, especially the Button-Raikkonen and Alonso-Raikkonen battles and that is the reason I gave it 7/10. Nothing to do with the winner whatsoever.
We have had many races with excellent mid-field battles though.
#32
Posted 09 November 2014 - 22:52
What do you mean blame it? What he's saying is a good thing- races that would have used to be seen as amazing are now average, whereas the now amazing races are unheard of in the other era.
Im not disagreeing, but explaining why people were unimpressed.
#33
Posted 09 November 2014 - 23:02
Great to see all the 'mentions in dispatches' for Button.
Ron Dennis and fat Eric - what the f##k are you doing in letting him go?
#34
Posted 10 November 2014 - 08:01
I'm still very bothered by the camera work during the GP. It was always trying to get a sponsor on a runoff in view and thus sometimes going in the opposite direction of the cars. I watched MotoGP a few hours earlier and you almost could see the riders in the eyes down the main straight.
#35
Posted 10 November 2014 - 08:58
Worst Driver no one
#36
Posted 10 November 2014 - 09:18
How can Raikkönen be the best driver? That's pretty delusional.
#37
Posted 10 November 2014 - 09:28
How can Raikkönen be the best driver? That's pretty delusional.
His least poor performance of the year maybe?
#38
Posted 10 November 2014 - 09:33
His least poor performance of the year maybe?
Not so sure. Got beaten by Alonso and not his best result either (4th in Spa).
#39
Posted 10 November 2014 - 09:47
How can Raikkönen be the best driver? That's pretty delusional.
It's unfortunate that you didn't share your list. As I tried to explain above, I think there are various reasons why Räikkönen's race stood out among the rest, even if the result isn't going into the record books.
Button also had a good race, as did Vettel. Alonso did good to defend against the Red Bulls in the early stages - but none of them did something really special that makes them the obvious choice for driver of the day, at least in my opinion. Räikkönen on the other hand did a good job with his alternative strategy, and had a few nice clean scraps with other drivers, including the long awaited and much hoped for battle with Alonso.
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#40
Posted 10 November 2014 - 10:05
Because he looked better than Alonso for most of Q except Q3 and would've beaten him in the race except for a pit-stop malfunction team-side that cost him about five seconds, in a car with which he hasn't been comfortable all year? Either that, or Alonso sucks and it's no big deal KR nearly beat him in such circumstances...How can Raikkönen be the best driver? That's pretty delusional.
But I'd give the nod to NR either way; dude was a champ this weekend.