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[August]

It's mid-November and it means racing on one of the coolest street circuits in the World. I mean, it's time for the Macau Grand Prix! 
 

 

 

 

 
The entry list for the F3 Macau GP can be found here. It includes 11 of the top 12 drivers of the FIA Euro F3, incl. 2015 Toro Rosso driver Max Verstappen. Also, the WSR driver Roberto Merhi, also remembered from his Caterham test, will be driving.
 
For European viewers, Eurosport will show the WTCC races as usual. And the good news for British viewers is, BT Sports will show the F1, bike, and GT races. 

[milestone 11]

Eurosport are showing the bikes as well.

[Raelene]

will pop over on Saturday to watch qualy days.   Looking forward to it

[JeePee]

Live stream F3 qualy: http://www.ustream.t...grand-prix-2014

[Nigol]

Live stream F3 qualy: http://www.ustream.t...grand-prix-2014

 

Thanks! Coverage was very bad though...

Why was everyone going half a second quicker in the first sector and then lost so much in the 2nd and 3rd?

[Viryfan]

Thanks! Coverage was very bad though...

Why was everyone going half a second quicker in the first sector and then lost so much in the 2nd and 3rd?

 

Slipstream and traffic?

[SB]

A friendly reminder -  WTCC qualifying will be on Friday afternoon (local time) while Saturday afternoon is scheduled for F3 "Qualifying" race and Motorcycle GP race.

[Nigol]

Slipstream and traffic?

Are you sure or is that an assumption? 

Because none of that was shown in tv, in fact pretty much nothing was shown. Just some guys preparing for their hotlaps or going slowly for different reasons, while the clock was showing there were 3 drivers 0.5s up.    That happened for the whole ten minutes I watched.

Edited by Nigol, 13 November 2014 - 09:07.

[noikeee]

So much for Ocon and Verstappen wiping out everyone else... both got grid penalties and they were 6th and 10th in the first qualifying session lolz

 

Interesting to see Merhi and... Stefano Coletti (??) taking part.

 

This is still one of the coolest races in the world in one of the coolest tracks. 

[tempname11]

That got me a bit worried, but this news article says it's only a 2-place grip drop for the Qualifying Race on Saturday. So not all is lost yet

 

http://www.autosport...t.php/id/116749

 

Does this track lend itself well to overtaking, by the way?

[JeePee]

So much for Ocon and Verstappen wiping out everyone else...

Who said that?

 

By the way:

6 - Verstappen - 2'12.811 (First time in Macau)

11 - Coletti - 2'13.066 (already driven there)

19 - Merhi - 2'14.615 (already driven there)

 

Verstappen is 2nd of the Macau rookies... Pretty fine job if you ask me.

[Exb]

By the way:

6 - Verstappen - 2'12.811 (First time in Macau)

11 - Coletti - 2'13.066 (already driven there)

19 - Merhi - 2'14.615 (already driven there)

 

Verstappen is 2nd of the Macau rookies... Pretty fine job if you ask me.

 Won't the F3 cars be very different to what Coletti and Mehri have been driving this year though, whilst Verstappen and Ocon will be used to the cars?

 

So my question is which is easiest/quickest to get used to, a new circuit or a different car? I would expect all to improve throughout the sessions though and I guess whichever is the trickiest to adapt will likely have room for most improvement?)

 

(I'm not having a go at or putting anyone down, its just a question I have no idea about. Also it seems a bit soon after 1 session to be drawing any conclusions about how the race will go anyway but for a 1st session it seems both Ocon and Verstappen are thereabouts so so far so good for them (except the penalties, anyone know what they were for?)

[Viryfan]

So much for Ocon and Verstappen wiping out everyone else... both got grid penalties and they were 6th and 10th in the first qualifying session lolz

 

Interesting to see Merhi and... Stefano Coletti (??) taking part.

 

This is still one of the coolest races in the world in one of the coolest tracks. 

 

 

Well sure that if you look to timesheets just after 1st qualy at Macau you must be right then....

 

Moreover when you know that Max went for his first time to the track and Ocon went just like a practice session with 10+ lap race stint when he set his time.

[SanDiegoGo]

...and time for one of my favourite F1 vids. ralph firman thrashes a screaming V10 jordan around one of the coolest racing track in the world.

 

[ANF]

That got me a bit worried, but this news article says it's only a 2-place grip drop for the Qualifying Race on Saturday. So not all is lost yet

 

http://www.autosport...t.php/id/116749

 

Does this track lend itself well to overtaking, by the way?

Oh yes.

 

[tempname11]

Oh yes.

 

I'm pretty sure you can't overtake AT ALL when the track is blocked like that   

[sportyskells]

last year 2nd race was very messy in the WTCC last year, two red flags last year, 1st one was very understandable but the 2nd one people forgot there were 2 cars in the barrier and almost got a marshal run over

[BullHead]

Both titles already wrapped up this year for WTCC. Not sure of other exciting position battles to be had. I hear WTCC might lose it's slot here from next year. If so, I hope the races go with a proverbial bang, so to speak.

[SB]

last year 2nd race was very messy in the WTCC last year, two red flags last year, 1st one was very understandable but the 2nd one people forgot there were 2 cars in the barrier and almost got a marshal run over

 

Oooops yes that was most stupidest thing I watched in Macau in last 30 years   

[tempname11]

Live timing: http://www.mstworld....es=wtcc-support

Live stream & replays: http://www.ustream.t...grand-prix-2014

Edited by tempname11, 14 November 2014 - 09:47.

[Viryfan]

Rosenqvist P1

Ocon P2

Verstappen P3

 

 

not too shabby for F3 youngsters - F1 prospects     

[DS27]

Oooops yes that was most stupidest thing I watched in Macau in last 30 years   

 

Was it dafter than the year the safety car pulled out and caused and accident?

[byrkus]

Wasn't that at Pau?

[PEW]

Yes it was Pau

[noikeee]

Rosenqvist P1

Ocon P2

Verstappen P3

 

 

not too shabby for F3 youngsters - F1 prospects     

 

Yeah that is pretty good progression through the sessions, I wasn't 100% serious with my previous comment, rate them both very highly

 

Still not gonna be easy for either of them to win with the grid penalties (though being put only 2 places back is generous), does Macau still have a qualifying race and then a proper race gridded by the first one, or is it just one now?

[Viryfan]

Yeah that is pretty good progression through the sessions, I wasn't 100% serious with my previous comment, rate them both very highly

 

Still not gonna be easy for either of them to win with the grid penalties (though being put only 2 places back is generous), does Macau still have a qualifying race and then a proper race gridded by the first one, or is it just one now?

 

yes two races.

 

One of 62 km.

One of 93km.

[thegamer23]

Does anyone have a timetable for wtcc and f3 races?

Edited by thegamer23, 14 November 2014 - 10:46.

[FredrikB]

Swedes first and third on the grid. Lets hope they make the best of it and work as a team. 

 

http://www.autosport...t.php/id/116760

[August]

Does anyone have a timetable for wtcc and f3 races?

http://www.macau.gra...ent=120&lang=en

Sat 5:45am UK time: F3 Qualy race
Sun: After 2:30am: WTCC races (according to fiawtcc.com 3:15am and 4:30am)
Sun: 7:30am F3 Race

Bikes are at 7:30 on Sat.

Hopefully I did the conversion right.

Edited by August, 14 November 2014 - 11:20.

[thegamer23]

http://www.macau.gra...ent=120&lang=en

Sat 5:45am UK time: F3 Qualy race
Sun: After 2:30am: WTCC races (according to fiawtcc.com 3:15am and 4:30am)
Sun: 7:30am F3 Race

Bikes are at 7:30 on Sat.

Hopefully I did the conversion right.

Thanks a lot mate!

[thegamer23]

http://www.macau.gra...ent=120&lang=en

Sat 5:45am UK time: F3 Qualy race
Sun: After 2:30am: WTCC races (according to fiawtcc.com 3:15am and 4:30am)
Sun: 7:30am F3 Race

Bikes are at 7:30 on Sat.

Hopefully I did the conversion right.

Thanks a lot mate!

[A.Fant]

What has happened to TOM's Macau supremacy? The best TOM's car is Yamashita in 23rd, almost 3s off the pace.

 

I recall that the main reason Ericsson did a year in Japanese F3 was so that he could drive a TOM's car in Macau, they used to dominate there.

[BRG]

It's mid-November and it means racing on one of the most stupid street circuits in the World. I mean, it's time for the Macau Grand Prix! 

A first corner that is guaranteed to have a massive race-stopping accident.  A corner so tight that it is under permanent yellow flags.  A track so narrow that overtaking is impossible for over half the lap.  And the rest is so wide and flat out that overtaking is also impossible.  Except braking for the first corner that is of course guaranteed to have a massive race-stopping accident.

 

Makes Monaco look like Spa.

[Nigol]

Oh Max. He did a Hamilton, crashing in P2.

[A3]

Yeah, too bad. But he did go from p5 to p2 in what, three laps? So, overtaking is certainly possible.

[tempname11]

Actually he got P2 shortly after the start, before the first 90-degree turn (Hotel Lisboa). After that it looked like Rosenqvist (was that him?) was pressuring him, and he made a mistake.

 

Does that mean he'll have to start tomorrow from where he ended up in classification, i.e. 24th or whatever?

[Nigol]

Actually he got P2 shortly after the start, before the first 90-degree turn (Hotel Lisboa). After that it looked like Rosenqvist (was that him?) was pressuring him, and he made a mistake.

 

Does that mean he'll have to start tomorrow from where he ended up in classification, i.e. 24th or whatever?

 

You're right on everything here. 

[Viryfan]

I wonder from the top 5, who did put new tyres in for this race.

 

Huge difference in pure pace between the Top 3 and Ocon/Cassidy.

 

The whole top 5 cruised to finish.

[DS27]

Wasn't that at Pau?

 

Was it really. Jeez, my memory these days...

[TheRacingElf]

He had such an amazing start but unfortunately made a mistake where he just should have finished the race, even finishing 3rd or 4th would have been fine..

[Ragnar668]

I wonder from the top 5, who did put new tyres in for this race.

 

Huge difference in pure pace between the Top 3 and Ocon/Cassidy.

 

The whole top 5 cruised to finish.

 

Looked like Cassidy messed up the restart.

he was still warming up his tyres at the straight

[Viryfan]

I think that Max crashed in Maternity corner, went a bit too wide like Tom Coronel in WTCC qualy.

[jonpollak]

That Felix is the business. Never thought I'd say this but I LOVE that bronze chocolate paint job.

Edited by jonpollak, 15 November 2014 - 11:47.

[Emilvang]

That Felix is the business. Never thought I'd say this but I LOVE that bronze chocolate paint job.

 

Not particularly young, is he now..

[jonpollak]

Thanks for the 411 Yoda

[ANF]

He had such an amazing start but unfortunately made a mistake where he just should have finished the race, even finishing 3rd or 4th would have been fine..

Oh no. It must be a huge disappointment to the people who seem to believe Verstappen is already the best racing driver who ever walked on this planet.

[A3]

Oh no. It must be a huge disappointment to the people who seem to believe Verstappen is already the best racing driver who ever walked on this planet.

Why feel the need to reply in such a childisch manner?

[Viryfan]

Looked like Cassidy messed up the restart.

he was still warming up his tyres at the straight

 

Hmmm not really, he overtook Merhi.

[Richard T]

What time (NYC-time) does the F3 race start?

 

Edit: Nevermind, found it!

 

Edit 2: STOP STOP STOP Whatever you are doing!!! The World Touring Citroën Championship-race is about to start 

Edited by Richard T, 16 November 2014 - 03:14.

[SB]

WTCC race 2 :  Ruff did a great defendive job !