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[bonjon1979a]

So Pole Position in Abu Dhabi continues to be a curse!

I think it was very interesting what Damon was saying about that, the left hand side of the grid where p2 is in sunlight longer than the pole side which goes into shade. Apparently the track was much cooler to the touch on the pole side which could account for the poor getaway nico has.

[sopa]

What can we expect from next year? Can Hamilton turn it in his favour in qualis again? Can Rosberg put in more great race performances? 

[Ricardo F1]

Fantastic day, fantastic result, shame it wasn't a 1-2 but it mostly evened out the season in the end.  It'll be fascinating next season, does Rosberg continue to try and win on Saturday or work on his longer run set up.  Seems from the race today regardless of the start Lewis again had Rosberg well in his pocket in race trim.  

 

Roll on 2015, so very very happy! 

[Redzone]

The right guy won today. Congrats to Lewis for his 2nd world title F1.

 

 

Hamilton was the better race driver of the season, no question. But I also admire Rosberg for what he did in qualifyings this season, and for the Pole Trophy he won!

 

Plus Lewis is by far the more marketable driver over Rosberg, which is why Mercedes would not be doing anything to damage Lewis's chances.....I think it is more than a little suspicious, that once it became clear the WDC came down to these two guys, that Mercedes top dogs clearly favored the more fragile of the two---Lewis. Just look at Spa, Monza, Singapore (what wiring harness??), Austin and the button....Monza "penalty"....and now the power unit whatever problem (you Lewis fans remember how much you were worrying that something like this would happen to LH??)

 

 

 

Until that time came when it was clear their tow drivers were in the clear, I think Mercedes did not favor either one and what happened, was just racing and so forth.

 

After all, one or the other driver could have had a big string of bad luck, even a bad accident like MS had at Silverstone,  giving someone like vettel or Ricardo a better chance of taking the WDC or at least being in a solid second place and threatening.  As they say, no point in putting all your eggs in one basket, before it is safe to do so......

 

 

But when it became clear that first and second place was in a very high probability, would belong to them, plus the WCC was in the bag, then Lewis clearly became the fav of Toto and Lauda.  

 

 

All about marketing and profit/cost/benefit

 

 

 

 

What I am curious about is whether Nico has or will become the infamous "lapdog" as the term was used as to the teammate of MS.

 

 

Sad as it has no chance of happening, but if Red Bull had a better power unit, then Riccardo  might well be the 2015 champ and might have done it in 2014

Edited by Redzone, 23 November 2014 - 18:38.

[OO7]

I think it was very interesting what Damon was saying about that, the left hand side of the grid where p2 is in sunlight longer than the pole side which goes into shade. Apparently the track was much cooler to the touch on the pole side which could account for the poor getaway nico has.

I'm going to have to re-watch the start to see how the other cars on the even numbered side (Lewis' side) got off the line.

 

However cars that qualify on Pole tend to not score any points, unless you are Sebastien Vettel in 2010 and 2013.  2009, 2011, 2012 and 2014 all resulted in a DNS for the Pole sitter.

[bonjon1979a]

What can we expect from next year? Can Hamilton turn it in his favour in qualis again? Can Rosberg put in more great race performances?

Next year will be tough for rosberg. First half of 2014 hamilton was on the back foot, nico had an advantage from the get go. If it was nico whose car failed in the first race, do we think he'd pull back the points tally like hamilton? I don't think he has it in him to win four or five races in a row against lewis. This year could've been his best chance and I wonder if that'll knaw away at him.

[sopa]

I'm going to have to re-watch the start to see how the other cars on the even numbered side (Lewis' side) got off the line.

 

However cars that qualify on Pole tend to not score any points, unless you are Sebastien Vettel in 2010 and 2013.  2009, 2011, 2012 and 2014 all resulted in a DNS for the Pole sitter.

 

From what I remember, Bottas from P3 also got a poor getaway.

[bonjon1979a]

Plus Lewis is by far the more marketable driver over Rosberg, which is why Mercedes would not be doing anything to damage Lewis's chances.....I think it is more than a little suspicious, that once it became clear the WDC came down to these two guys, that Mercedes top dogs clearly favored the more fragile of the two---Lewis. Just look at Spa, Monza, Singapore (what wiring harness??), Austin and the button....Monza "penalty"....and now the power unit whatever problem (you Lewis fans remember how much you were worrying that something like this would happen to LH??)



Until that time came when it was clear their tow drivers were in the clear, I think Mercedes did not favor either one and what happened, was just racing and so forth.

After all, one or the other driver could have had a big string of bad luck, even a bad accident like MS had at Silverstone, giving someone like vettel or Ricardo a better chance of taking the WDC or at least being in a solid second place and threatening. As they say, no point in putting all your eggs in one basket, before it is safe to do so......


But when it became clear that first and second place was in a very high probability, would belong to them, plus the WCC was in the bag, then Lewis clearly became the fav of Toto and Lauda.


All about marketing and profit/cost/benefit




What I am curious about is whether Nico has or will become the infamous "lapdog" as the term was used as to the teammate of MS.


Sad as it has no chance of happening, but if Red Bull had a better power unit, then Riccardo might well be the 2015 champ and might have done it in 2014

Hilarious.

Yep. They gifted it to lewis this year. Honestly.

See you all at winter testing.

[Ricardo F1]

I'm going to have to re-watch the start to see how the other cars on the even numbered side (Lewis' side) got off the line.

 

However cars that qualify on Pole tend to not score any points, unless you are Sebastien Vettel in 2010 and 2013.  2009, 2011, 2012 and 2014 all resulted in a DNS for the Pole sitter.

Grip was good for Hamilton but his clutch position was perfect and Rosberg got as bad a start as Hamilton got a good.

[Ricardo F1]

 

 

 

All about marketing and profit/cost/benefit

 

 

What a load of bullshit.

[spanner]

Throughout this season I lost a lot of respect for Nico for Monaco which was then slammed home by Spa antics. Today I have to give credit to Nico for being a gracious loser and a great opponent for Lewis to have beaten this year.

 

Its been a real battle this season with unreliability but in the end the right driver won and its been a great battle, congratulations to both.

[P123]

Plus Lewis is by far the more marketable driver over Rosberg, which is why Mercedes would not be doing anything to damage Lewis's chances.....

Silly buggers, more than half the time they sabotaged the wrong car!

[sennafan24]

Plus Lewis is by far the more marketable driver over Rosberg, which is why Mercedes would not be doing anything to damage Lewis's chances.....I think it is more than a little suspicious, that once it became clear the WDC came down to these two guys, that Mercedes top dogs clearly favored the more fragile of the two---Lewis. Just look at Spa, Monza, Singapore (what wiring harness??), Austin and the button....Monza "penalty"....and now the power unit whatever problem (you Lewis fans remember how much you were worrying that something like this would happen to LH??)

So should we be suspicious about what happened to Lewis in Hungary and Germany qualifying? And the race in Australia?

 

No consistency to your point

[ClubmanGT]

Maybe the car is just quick but ultimately rubbish 

[spanner]

After this season pretty sure its not rubbish

[jestaudio]

man some of the comments are hysterical, Hamilton fully deserved the championship , he won despite some dubious "tactics" from his team mate, despite having a car that failed to stop on weekend and then nearly cremated him the next, 11-5 race wins in Hamilton's favour and the failure of Rosberg to pull a overtake on Hamilton and make it stick, Rosberg is a decent driver but ultimately the better driver won

[Redzone]

all about the money, which was what Mercedes was all about.....hurts don't it?

 

But at least Lewis will hopefully do a better job in all those commercials than the other, unless they make him appear  in commercials like those with Vettel driving around in that Infinity with his helmet on

 

Now that was a hoot

Edited by Redzone, 23 November 2014 - 18:56.

[sennafan24]

all about the money, which was what Mercedes was all about.....hurts don't it?

I don't think Lewis and his fans are the ones hurting right now 

[Maximus1]

Okay.Just got back from the Yas circuit in Abu Dhabi. Great race but the tension made me so numb. I was seated in the North Grandstand which has the slowest corner of the track. I dont know what Merc will say caused Nico's problem but from my lame eye, he shot himself in the foot. Just before the arc. there is a an S corner which most drivers try to straight line. Nico when he was 2.4 sec behind lewis was chasing Lewis so hard that he rode the kerb/chicane very hard. his car bounced and there were sparks underneath from from contact with the road till he took the arc. thereafter he started dropping back.4.7 sec, 5.6 sec till Massa reeled him in. I had to check life autosport live feed to find out what was wrong with his car. The Lewis started doing 1.50s and I started to panic but I found out that was just precautionary. Nico even had to guts to ask what will the position be life if Lewis DNF. "Great sports man" he is. There was a huge roar when Massa passed him. And each time another car passed him there was massive applause. He has done him self no favours. He needs to launder him image drastically. One more thing. In the merchandise shop, Lewis tops were sold out while there was still a stack of Nico's

[SWAN]

Im a Lewis supporter but I feel sorry for Nico. At the end of the day he is a decent guy but Lewis has become so popular Nico is sort of becoming the bad guy - and I dont think he really deserves it. Although Brundle is starting to think Monaco was for real so....

Edited by SWAN, 23 November 2014 - 19:04.

[velgajski1]

Plus Lewis is by far the more marketable driver over Rosberg, which is why Mercedes would not be doing anything to damage Lewis's chances.....I think it is more than a little suspicious, that once it became clear the WDC came down to these two guys, that Mercedes top dogs clearly favored the more fragile of the two---Lewis. Just look at Spa, Monza, Singapore (what wiring harness??), Austin and the button....Monza "penalty"....and now the power unit whatever problem (you Lewis fans remember how much you were worrying that something like this would happen to LH??)

 

 

 

Until that time came when it was clear their tow drivers were in the clear, I think Mercedes did not favor either one and what happened, was just racing and so forth.

 

After all, one or the other driver could have had a big string of bad luck, even a bad accident like MS had at Silverstone,  giving someone like vettel or Ricardo a better chance of taking the WDC or at least being in a solid second place and threatening.  As they say, no point in putting all your eggs in one basket, before it is safe to do so......

 

 

But when it became clear that first and second place was in a very high probability, would belong to them, plus the WCC was in the bag, then Lewis clearly became the fav of Toto and Lauda.  

 

 

All about marketing and profit/cost/benefit

 

 

 

 

What I am curious about is whether Nico has or will become the infamous "lapdog" as the term was used as to the teammate of MS.

 

 

Sad as it has no chance of happening, but if Red Bull had a better power unit, then Riccardo  might well be the 2015 champ and might have done it in 2014

 

Definition of ******** 

[Wifey]

Glad hamilton has is going to ask to keep no 44 over no 1

[OO7]

Lewis Hamilton is now joint third all time, for the number of wins achieve in a single F1 season.  He holds this position (11 wins) with Michael Schumacher in 2002 and Sebastien Vettel in 2011.  Both Schumacher and Vettel are also joint first with 13 wins in 2004 and 2013 respectively.

[pRy]

Okay.Just got back from the Yas circuit in Abu Dhabi. Great race but the tension made me so numb. I was seated in the North Grandstand which has the slowest corner of the track. I dont know what Merc will say caused Nico's problem but from my lame eye, he shot himself in the foot. Just before the arc. there is a an S corner which most drivers try to straight line. Nico when he was 2.4 sec behind lewis was chasing Lewis so hard that he rode the kerb/chicane very hard. his car bounced and there were sparks underneath from from contact with the road till he took the arc.

 

Interesting observation. I wonder if that would be enough to knock a system like ERS offline?

[Gilles4Ever]

Sadly the warnings are repeatedly ignored, it appears discussion of Lewis vs Nico 2014 has been exhausted.