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What are the real Kimi and Vettel capable of?


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Poll: What are the real Kimi and Vettel capable of? (218 member(s) have cast votes)

Are Kimi and Massa on a similiar level?

  1. Yes (121 votes [55.50%])

    Percentage of vote: 55.50%

  2. No (97 votes [44.50%])

    Percentage of vote: 44.50%

Is Alonso a level above Kimi regardless the actual car?

  1. Yes (175 votes [80.28%])

    Percentage of vote: 80.28%

  2. No (43 votes [19.72%])

    Percentage of vote: 19.72%

Was the pecking order between Vettel and Ricciardo real this year?

  1. Yes (136 votes [62.39%])

    Percentage of vote: 62.39%

  2. No (82 votes [37.61%])

    Percentage of vote: 37.61%

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#151 anneomoly

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Posted 28 November 2014 - 20:18

I don't think Vettel and Kimi's situations are even comparable. 

 

Vettel was faced with basically a nobody in a relatively good car. Kimi had to face arguably the best driver on the grid in a toilet on four wheels. That Ferrari car was much more of a ball buster than the Red Bull so I partially consider Vettel's 2014 drive to be slightly worse than Kimi's, even though the latter looks horrible in the final standings. Partly because he had a better and more driveable car and partly because he got beaten by a newcomer. 

 

I'm sure they'll do better next year but if Ferrari don't come up with a half decent car, neither of them will have a good time. 

 

 

Well I expect Vettel to beat Kimi meaning that Kimi will have been beaten by DC, Massa, Alonso and Vettel, and I think there will be no coming back from that - he'll go down as a driver that was particularly quick at times but nothing special overall. It will also help Vettel to regain some damage to his reputation, but I think the majority will consider him seriously flattered by FOUR titles for the rest of his career. 

 

Yes, because Vettel only has one season left to his career...

 

Truth is, if he never recovers from this dip in form then he's either going to be a driver who burned his way through his talent too fast, or a driver who never had any and lucked into a car (depending on your POV). Or equally, he goes on to be revived by a new challenge and picks up where he left off and doesn't look back, and 2014 is a blip for whatever reason. Or, he turns into a Massa-style driver who has the ability to be fast but not always the right frame of mind.

 

Equally, we don't know whethere Ricciardo is another Hamilton (no shame in losing to him) or just a guy who rocked up, showed the world how average a driver can survive the Red Bull Juniors and faded away again.

 

i mean, if anyone knows which one of those it's going to be then can you PM me the WDC and WCC for the next five years please?

 

Not many people know it, but Massa, Raikkonen and Vettel, and perhaps more drivers all have secret twin brothers, who drive for them in some seasons, while the "main guy" takes a vacation.

 

 ;)

 

I thought Massa's clone/brother was an open secret...! He's in the garage often enough.

 

Did any kimi bandwagon fanboy switch sides this year? I think we all stayed.

 

I thought you were all there for the attitude problem, not the driving :drunk:



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#152 SophieB

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Posted 28 November 2014 - 20:21

Well, this thread doesn't seemed to have survived its dodgy foundation and gone anywhere good. Ultimately:

 

Driver vs driver threads are only welcome for team mates where a reasonable assessment of their respective abilities can be gauged. Other comparison threads which pit driver against driver for no apparent reason are unwelcome.

 

 

So, closed.