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#1 saluki1968

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Posted 08 December 2014 - 11:50

This photo may be at Cadwell Park, GB for the 9 September 1967 250 race.  Clearly  # 35 is Mike Hailwood at center and , I think, # 33 is  Rod Gould, to the right. Number 65, over Gould's right shoulder looks to be Tommy Robb, based on the helmet design.  But who are the others in the background?  To the far left, the rider has a image of Australia on his helmet. Some of the other riders may be identifiable by helmet logos as well. Better yet, if anyone had a program from this race, it should have the riders numbers listed.  Anyway, who are these guys?? Suggestions?

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#2 GD66

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Posted 08 December 2014 - 14:42

Kevin Cass is the Aussie pushing, #6 is Dave Browning on the Cotton and the rider on the right is Billie Nelson.

Edited by GD66, 09 December 2014 - 07:38.


#3 GrahamEtheridgepicblanc

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Posted 08 December 2014 - 17:10

#66 Tony Godfrey?



#4 GrahamEtheridgepicblanc

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Posted 08 December 2014 - 17:12

#14 Cliff Carr?



#5 saluki1968

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Posted 08 December 2014 - 19:39

Looks like I've got some folks who know their riders! :clap:   Looking up photos etc of the riders suggested so far, I'd say Kevin Cass, Dave Browning and Billie Nelson are sure things. Haven't  yet been able to find a photo of Tony Godfrey where I can see the front of his helmet to match the pic.  Cliff Carr seems to be of a later era than this photo would suggest. 



#6 Russell Burrows

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Posted 08 December 2014 - 19:53

Looks like I've got some folks who know their riders! :clap:   Looking up photos etc of the riders suggested so far, I'd say Kevin Cass, Dave Browning and Billie Nelson are sure things. Haven't  yet been able to find a photo of Tony Godfrey where I can see the front of his helmet to match the pic.  Cliff Carr seems to be of a later era than this photo would suggest.

I seems not to be Tony Godfrey's distinctive helmet design.... Carr did race TSS Bultacos around this period, largely unoticed I think.

#7 saluki1968

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Posted 08 December 2014 - 21:15

The reason for my interest in this particular photo is that I'm doing a drawing of it and would like to have the details as accurate as I can,  Here's where I've gotten thus far 

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Edited by saluki1968, 08 December 2014 - 21:18.


#8 GD66

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Posted 09 December 2014 - 05:06

I've always had an idea that was Cliff Carr, he had that type of emblem on his fullface helmet anyway. Grant Gibson was another option.
Although I have a pic, I am unable to post it here but Tony Godfrey's helmet emblem was a yeoman's glove clutching an arrow.

#9 billlawrence

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Posted 09 December 2014 - 06:11

I would say its a very young chas mortimor    Bill Lawrence



#10 saluki1968

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Posted 09 December 2014 - 19:04

I've always had an idea that was Cliff Carr, he had that type of emblem on his fullface helmet anyway. Grant Gibson was another option.
Although I have a pic, I am unable to post it here but Tony Godfrey's helmet emblem was a yeoman's glove clutching an arrow.

Does anyone else have a photo they can post of Tony Godfrey's helmet emblem?



#11 GrahamEtheridgepicblanc

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Posted 09 December 2014 - 20:15

Glenn has & he passed it on to me, but I cant get into my photobucket account to copy it to post on here, try google image him?



#12 saluki1968

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Posted 09 December 2014 - 21:42

Here's the piece I'm working on after today's effort --

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#13 saluki1968

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Posted 10 December 2014 - 16:33

Finished the drawing yesterday evening.  Thanks to all who helped with IDing the riders. I tried to also ID the bikes, based on what those riders were on in 1967. So based on that the riders are: 

35, Mike Hailwood (Honda), 33 Rod Gould (Bultaco), 6 Dave Browning (Cotton), 56 Tony Godfrey (Yamaha), 14 Cliff Carr (Bultaco), 65 Tommy Robb (Yamaha), 52 Kevin Cass (Bultaco) & Billie Nelson (could it be a Yamaha?)).  One other rider - directly over the helmet of Gould - is unidentified, though there is a rather distinctive emblem on the helmet. Here's the finished drawing -

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#14 billbomann

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Posted 31 December 2014 - 10:51

66 looks like Steve Jolley



#15 Paul Collins

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Posted 31 December 2014 - 15:20

Hello Bill, nice to see you still dropping in, have a great new year mate.

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Posted 06 January 2015 - 19:42

Finished the drawing yesterday evening.  Thanks to all who helped with IDing the riders. I tried to also ID the bikes, based on what those riders were on in 1967. So based on that the riders are: 

35, Mike Hailwood (Honda), 33 Rod Gould (Bultaco), 6 Dave Browning (Cotton), 56 Tony Godfrey (Yamaha), 14 Cliff Carr (Bultaco), 65 Tommy Robb (Yamaha), 52 Kevin Cass (Bultaco) & Billie Nelson (could it be a Yamaha?)).  One other rider - directly over the helmet of Gould - is unidentified, though there is a rather distinctive emblem on the helmet. Here's the finished drawing -

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A lot of time and effort in that piece of art.

Very nice work.

 

John



#17 tonupdave

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Posted 20 February 2015 - 13:28

66 definatly not Tony Godfrey Black helmet with fist holding a hammer in gold on the front



#18 GD66

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Posted 21 February 2015 - 02:20

Fist with a glove on, holding a yeoman's arrow, in fact.

But yes, agree that's not Tony in the pic.

Edited by GD66, 21 February 2015 - 02:22.