Would that have excluded Simona Di Silvestro, Marco Andretti, Matthew Brabham?
Why them? Yes, they would have been and now are excluded.
Posted 10 July 2015 - 22:54
Would that have excluded Simona Di Silvestro, Marco Andretti, Matthew Brabham?
Why them? Yes, they would have been and now are excluded.
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Posted 11 July 2015 - 00:33
The new point system is bogus. GP2 champ gets more credibility than the Indy Car champ? No way. Winning the Indy 500 alone should grant you a super license.
F2, a series that is yet to exist, more points than IndyCar? What?
Posted 11 July 2015 - 01:22
DTM seems a bit odd! May as well add V8SC, or maye NASCAR for that matter.
Posted 11 July 2015 - 04:19
DTM is closer to formulas than you might think. Big rear wing and diffuser. Much lighter than stock cars.
Posted 11 July 2015 - 04:33
Formula E!!
ROFL
Posted 11 July 2015 - 10:24
Posted 11 July 2015 - 10:40
The new point system is bogus. GP2 champ gets more credibility than the Indy Car champ? No way. Winning the Indy 500 alone should grant you a super license.
F2, a series that is yet to exist, more points than IndyCar? What?
The WMSC has announced quite a major change to the system, see the previous page. Winning the title in future F2, GP2, Indycar, FIA Euro F3 and LMP1 in the WEC is all worth 40 points now (which is an automatic Super License). The differences are from 1st place down, and other series have also been put on the list.
Posted 11 July 2015 - 10:46
The new proposal is better than the old one, no doubt. But how on earth does FR3.5 winner earn less points than F3 European champion? Should it mean Euro F3 gives driver more experience? In which department: top speed, downforce, race duration, DRS, pit-stops, PR-work? It still seems FIA wants to get rid of Renault lower formulae and instead promote F3 and F4 at any cost. But then there will be little sense for Renault to stay in F1 as well. Is this what FIA really targets?
Edited by alfista, 11 July 2015 - 10:47.
Posted 11 July 2015 - 10:46
So I have some questions:
1. For the 2016 F1 rookie drivers: Are the last three year counting with the old points, or the new ones? Or the last two with the old points and the 2015 season with the new ones?
2. What is the Kart Senior series?
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Posted 11 July 2015 - 11:11
The new proposal is better than the old one, no doubt. But how on earth does FR3.5 winner earn less points than F3 European champion? Should it mean Euro F3 gives driver more experience? In which department: top speed, downforce, race duration, DRS, pit-stops, PR-work? It still seems FIA wants to get rid of Renault lower formulae and instead promote F3 and F4 at any cost. But then there will be little sense for Renault to stay in F1 as well. Is this what FIA really targets?
it's better, but still 95% idiotic, it has nothing to with a driver being able to drive in F1 savely, just politics and stupidity.
Posted 11 July 2015 - 13:39
National F4 series are more worth than national F3 series, oh dear....
Posted 11 July 2015 - 13:39
No kidding
Rankng Indycar over Super Formula or Formula Renault is a bit head scratching to say the least...
Posted 11 July 2015 - 15:02
Anyone ranking either of those two above Indycar would be mad. Indycar is essentially F1 level of performance. The others are clearly at a 2nd-level
Edited by Prost1997T, 11 July 2015 - 15:03.
Posted 11 July 2015 - 15:42
National F4 series are more worth than national F3 series, oh dear....
Posted 11 July 2015 - 15:45
Posted 11 July 2015 - 15:54
it's ensuring big teams keep drivers in sub-series for long enough or them to get their pay cheques.
Posted 11 July 2015 - 17:05
After that surely not anymore ;)I doubt the FIA care about Indycar. They've only included it out of tradition of granting Indycar champions a super licence.
Yeah that sure looks stupid. Are there many national F3 series still going though?
Posted 11 July 2015 - 17:20
I'm quite pleased to see that they've come to their senses on this issue about test drivers...
Increasing flexibility for drivers having qualified for a Super Licence, but do not have the opportunity to race in Formula One. These drivers will now keep this possibility for three years (eg. typical F1 test driver situation)
...because before now, their rules had Michael Schumacher not qualified to race in 2010, and Pedro de la Rosa not qualified to race in 2010 and 2012. Like, they had no experience.
Posted 11 July 2015 - 19:05
I'm quite pleased to see that they've come to their senses on this issue about test drivers...
Increasing flexibility for drivers having qualified for a Super Licence, but do not have the opportunity to race in Formula One. These drivers will now keep this possibility for three years (eg. typical F1 test driver situation)
...because before now, their rules had Michael Schumacher not qualified to race in 2010, and Pedro de la Rosa not qualified to race in 2010 and 2012. Like, they had no experience.
As I understand it, nothing changed for those cases. There is the exception that lets them hand licenses to drivers who have shown "outstanding ability".
The update is good news for the Palmer, Marciello and the like who have earned their 40 points and are now F1 test drivers.
Posted 13 July 2015 - 15:51
The real problem here is F1 lacking the difficulty you'd expect from the assumed pinnacle of motorsports, making it sensible to hire inexperienced drivers.
I don't particularly like the new super licence points system, it's too much to promote the FIA series; Euro F3 title being worth more than Super Formula title makes no sense. And I'd say all the full-time IndyCar drivers would be qualified enough to race in F1, also in that sense the system just doesn't make sense.
I'd just require open-wheel (or LMP1/DTM) experience of three (almost) full seasons, with at least two on F3 level or higher. Euro F3 top 3 could be allowed the super licence with just one year in F3 if they have at least two years in F4, I don't think the switch from F3 to F1 is too big if you have enough experience. Meanwhile, I'd try to make F1 cars more difficult to drive so teams would more likely take drivers with 4+ years of open-wheel experience.
Posted 11 January 2016 - 08:30
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Posted 28 June 2016 - 14:44
It's still not a great system, considering it's based on the FIA's perception of series strength and still overvalues their own. Consider the F3 grid now compared to 2015... but it still pays 40 points.
Posted 28 June 2016 - 19:27
super formula unfairly low imo, deserves at least 30