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#1 GMiranda

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Posted 21 January 2015 - 17:19

Hello to all!!!

 

I decided finally to take the step of creating a webpage to publish some of my works. I hope you enjoy it, this forum was the place when I started my research. It is far from perfect, but I hope to improve it and the contents with the time.

I'd like to know also if there are chances to contact some drivers and racing-related people for this work.

 

https://mirandaribeirog.wordpress.com/

 

 

Best Regardas

Guilherme Ribeiro



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#2 ensign14

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Posted 21 January 2015 - 17:49

And what an interesting start!  Had no idea about that particular story.  Many thanks.



#3 GMiranda

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Posted 21 January 2015 - 18:09

Many Thanks.. You're an archivist too, I think I may have sent you a PM some time ago



#4 Tim Murray

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Posted 21 January 2015 - 18:15

Good stuff, Guilherme. I've always liked the story about the congratulatory telegram from Idi Amin after Mehta's first Safari win.

#5 GMiranda

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Posted 21 January 2015 - 18:29

Thanks!!!!! I discover that story in this forum while doing research!!



#6 Doug Nye

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Posted 21 January 2015 - 18:45

Well done - nice job.  

 

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#7 bradbury west

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Posted 21 January 2015 - 19:13

Congratulations on a fine work. Incidentally , I have alway been intrigued by why you have a T251 as your avatar, a car which has fascinated me.
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#8 GMiranda

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Posted 21 January 2015 - 19:19

Thanks to both of you. Mr.Nye, I'd like to speak with you to discuss some ideas, but i can't PM you.

 

On the Bugatti... it's one of my favourite squads, and also left a sense on unfulfillment and mystery.... and I don't look much for the well-known things, I prefer the otehr ones =)



#9 RS2000

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Posted 21 January 2015 - 21:42

One point. In UK we never, ever, refer to a rally as a race. Even today there are still real dangers for insurance in the future in allowing such references to stand.

Here, those of us competing at the time remember Mehta for his crashing out of the Scottish Rally and winning the 1300 class on the RAC (never mind the overall finishing position). No mention of his London base, 1973 time?



#10 GMiranda

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Posted 21 January 2015 - 22:15

Thanks... I confess it's quite difficult for me to get used to that difference.... it's the same we experience in Physics with the concept of velocity and speed, in Portuguese there are now difference in the translation.

If you have more things you think they're elevant to add, please tell me and I'll put them onto the text and credit youn on the acknowledgments



#11 GMiranda

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Posted 28 January 2015 - 00:07

https://mirandaribei...helmut-koinigg/ - A tribute to an often unknwon driver, I hope it's good.



#12 Dick Dastardly

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Posted 28 January 2015 - 19:36

Good stuff



#13 PZR

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Posted 29 January 2015 - 12:46

The Shekhar Mehta piece was a nice read (thank you) but I was dismayed to see a photo of a 240Z taking part in the 2008 Classic Safari Rally (obviously not driven by Shekhar...) instead of a photo of Shekhar's actual works car from his 1973 win.

 

Plenty of photos of the actual car on the 1973 event are available, and the car itself still exists - as part of Nissan's 'Heritage Collection' at Zama in Japan - if you want to use photos of it as it is (unrestored...) today. Nissan have good photos of the car on their own website, but here are a few of mine:

 

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Posted 29 January 2015 - 13:27

Hello to all!!!

 

I decided finally to take the step of creating a webpage to publish some of my works. I hope you enjoy it, this forum was the place when I started my research. It is far from perfect, but I hope to improve it and the contents with the time.

I'd like to know also if there are chances to contact some drivers and racing-related people for this work.

 

https://mirandaribeirog.wordpress.com/

 

 

Best Regardas

Guilherme Ribeiro

 

All credit to you, Guilherme. Writing in a foreign language yet highly articulate, and robust research, with your sources acknowledged. I particularly congratulate you on 'not looking much for the well-known things, and for preferring the other ones.'

 

May you go from strength to strength!

 

Paul 



#15 GMiranda

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Posted 29 January 2015 - 16:49

Many Thanks fot the compliments and encouragment.

In fact Mehta's photo wasn't correctly labelled so I thought it was an older one, I thank you a lot for the correction and the wonderful shots you provided - all these photos are from simple Google Images search, for now I am not contacting properly people with original ones.

 

Thanks for your opinion on the writing style, it's also a way to improve my ability on it as I haven't classes. I prefer unknwon stories, even if the other ones are obviously part of my programme.

 

Any suggestions are well-recieved, if you have any idea, or if any of you would like to share memories and stories, it would be great for further discussions



#16 GMiranda

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Posted 19 February 2015 - 12:47

https://mirandaribei...ttilio-bettega/ - This is the version of the article I have already showed on the forums, it will have further updates for my work on WRC History.



#17 GMiranda

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Posted 22 March 2015 - 17:14

https://mirandaribei...berto-guerrero/ - New work on Roberto Guerrero!!!!



#18 LittleChris

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Posted 22 March 2015 - 21:18

Very enjoyable article, thanks.

 

Perhaps Twinny could add some more to it as I think he knew Roberto during his time in the UK



#19 GMiranda

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Posted 22 March 2015 - 21:20

Thanks!!!!! Every suggestion is deeply welcome, as this page intends to be a showroom and a way to develop the ideas, this isn't the final format yet, I am testing new solutions and also recieveing a lot of feedback.

 

If there are people directly involved it's a treasure



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#20 JacnGille

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Posted 22 March 2015 - 23:15

:up:



#21 GMiranda

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Posted 27 March 2015 - 23:19

Returning to rallies with Anders Kulläng - https://mirandaribei...anders-kullang/



#22 GMiranda

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Posted 09 April 2015 - 22:22

https://mirandaribei...jorn-waldegard/  - Now Björn Waldegard



#23 RS2000

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Posted 10 April 2015 - 21:24

Very good - but please, no more referring to a rally as a race!

Waldegard first made an impact in the UK in a VW1600TL on the RAC 65/66 and Gulf London.

He then became an outright contender in a Scania Vabis 911. Not exactly "Porsche Sweden". This was usually a 911L, homologated in Group2, and thus a quicker car than a 911S of the new Appendix J Group3, where that had to be virtually standard. Although Ake Andersson initially seemed to get better results in the team, BW suffered unreliability rather than any difference in pace. SV taught Porsche all about forest rallying - it was never the other way round.

The reference to the 2002Ti on the 73 RAC doesn't really do him justice as he was much higher when the tree got in the way and then, as now in Historics, the 2002 was flawed by the homologated rear brakes.

Everyone seems to recall Mikkola and Vatanen in Escorts in the late 70s but BW was the rock on which Ford's success was founded. I have a vivid memory of him becoming quite emotional as he began to speak at the prize giving after winning the 77 RAC, referring to his earliest  RACs in 1600TLs.      



#24 GMiranda

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Posted 11 April 2015 - 00:10

Many Thanks!!!!!!!

Sorry, it will come with the habit, you in UK distinguish both because it had a long cultural tradition, for us it's the same.

Yes I read more in between about BMW'73.

Wouldn't you like to take a review on the articles? You have far more experience, may we speak by email?

 

 

Best Regards



#25 GMiranda

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Posted 02 May 2015 - 15:49

https://mirandaribei.../armin-schwarz/ - Armin Schwarz career



#26 GMiranda

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Posted 03 May 2015 - 15:29

https://mirandaribei...3/carlo-capone/ - Carlo Capone, 1984 ERC Champion



#27 GMiranda

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Posted 29 May 2015 - 11:30

New post, my article on John Haugland: https://mirandaribei.../john-haugland/



#28 GMiranda

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Posted 05 June 2015 - 23:14

https://mirandaribei...ikael-ericsson/ - New topic on Mikael Ericsson.



#29 GMiranda

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Posted 07 July 2015 - 18:26

https://mirandaribei...7/miki-biasion/ - Miki Biasion



#30 GMiranda

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Posted 31 July 2015 - 17:08

https://mirandaribei...ars-erik-torph/



#31 RS2000

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Posted 31 July 2015 - 21:22

I did the 84 RAC and there was a definite "buzz" about Torph prior to that event that swept up even UK private entrants - to the extent that, when a journalist asked me on the eve of the start who to look out for, I immediately volunteered his name. The Group A Ascona i2000 (a Manta GTE in other clothing) was nothing special on paper but this one had all the right bits, such as 15" wheels. 

 

To be killed by a crashing Monte competitor when spectating was awful irony.

 

Just for the record: Group B was not banned in the middle of 86, or even at the end of 86. The over 2000cc class (which contained all the so-called "supercars") was deleted from the end of 86 but up to 2000cc classes continued for a year (or was it 2?), up to 1600cc classes for another year and up to 1300cc a year beyond that.

 

...and I saw one more reference to a rally as being a race in the linked article...!  



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Posted 31 July 2015 - 21:43

I did the 84 RAC and there was a definite "buzz" about Torph prior to that event that swept up even UK private entrants - to the extent that, when a journalist asked me on the eve of the start who to look out for, I immediately volunteered his name. The Group A Ascona i2000 (a Manta GTE in other clothing) was nothing special on paper but this one had all the right bits, such as 15" wheels. 

 

To be killed by a crashing Monte competitor when spectating was awful irony.

 

Just for the record: Group B was not banned in the middle of 86, or even at the end of 86. The over 2000cc class (which contained all the so-called "supercars") was deleted from the end of 86 but up to 2000cc classes continued for a year (or was it 2?), up to 1600cc classes for another year and up to 1300cc a year beyond that.

 

...and I saw one more reference to a rally as being a race in the linked article...!  

 

Hello!!!!! Thanks for your contribution, I did the article with almost no material, as you may see on the reference list.

About the Group B's I had the diea they have been banned on the WRC, and allowed on some championships with restrictions, like the MG Metro. I presume it was by two years.

Oh, I think the term "race" will appear many times yet, only with training it will be definitively wiped out, because in Portuguese the difference is quite confusing!!!

By the way, i sent you a PM a long time ago, because I'd like to discuss some ideas with you.



#33 RS2000

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Posted 01 August 2015 - 21:54

The demise of Group B was as I posted, for all International events. Some National Championships (the British is the only one I am aware of) did indeed allow restricted versions of the former GpB cars in 87. Here the 6R4 was the only effective one because the turbo restriction made turbo cars like the RS200 uncompetitive. The British National Championship did not run to Appendix J, so whether a car was homologated was, until then, irrelevant. There was a creeping attempt later by the UK Governing body to gradually restrict cars in the National Championship to currently homologated ones (and guess who was trying to influence them when old homologation-expired rwd Escorts were beating GpA Sierra Cosworths...). 



#34 GMiranda

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Posted 01 August 2015 - 21:57

Yes, I understand. I have a lot to learn on the Regulations aspect; when I read the McKlein book on the Group 4 era I found really confusing all those similarities and differences between Group1/2/3/4. I have almost no bases on it.



#35 GMiranda

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Posted 20 December 2015 - 00:46

After a long wait, here's the first post on the updated page, this is an improved version of my article on John Haugland   https://mirandaribei.../john-haugland/



#36 GMiranda

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Posted 23 December 2015 - 22:56

https://mirandaribei...23/carlo-capone  - Carlo Capone upgraded version



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Posted 25 December 2015 - 14:43

After a long wait, here's the first post on the updated page, this is an improved version of my article on John Haugland   https://mirandaribei.../john-haugland/

 

 

Unfortunately, this does not work, as clicking on it just brings me back to the start of the thread. And the story of my compatriot John is well worth telling.



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Posted 25 December 2015 - 14:52

Unfortunately, this does not work, as clicking on it just brings me back to the start of the thread. And the story of my compatriot John is well worth telling.

 

 

Try https://mirandaribei.../john-haugland/



#39 GMiranda

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Posted 25 December 2015 - 17:59

It works with me, maybe it was a temporary problem :well:



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#40 GMiranda

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Posted 29 December 2015 - 01:18

https://mirandaribei.../29/hans-geier/ - This one is different from my usual works, I did the first version a long time ago, yet under other nickname and with far fewer experience and skills, and, most of all, time and disposition; but i decided to recall this story and rebuilt this article to honour one of the greatest survivors of motor racing!!



#41 GMiranda

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Posted 03 February 2016 - 23:52

Updated article on Roberto Guerrero - https://mirandaribei...berto-guerrero/



#42 GMiranda

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Posted 09 February 2016 - 02:13

Koinigg's update - https://mirandaribei...elmuth-koinigg/



#43 Tim Murray

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Posted 09 February 2016 - 14:20

Guilherme, a few years ago Reinhard Windeler (ReWind) posted a link to a photo of Koinigg's gravestone, which showed his first name as Helmut, not Helmuth. The post is here, but sadly the link to the photo no longer works:
 

Just a marginal note: I wonder who originated the wrong spelling of Koinigg's given name. It is Helmut, not Helmuth.
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This was enough to convince me that his first name should be spelt 'Helmut'. I was wondering if your researches have now led you to believe that 'Helmuth' is correct?

#44 GMiranda

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Posted 09 February 2016 - 15:21

Guilherme, a few years ago Reinhard Windeler (ReWind) posted a link to a photo of Koinigg's gravestone, which showed his first name as Helmut, not Helmuth. The post is here, but sadly the link to the photo no longer works:
 

This was enough to convince me that his first name should be spelt 'Helmut'. I was wondering if your researches have now led you to believe that 'Helmuth' is correct?

 

I've seen Helmuth on most of my sources, including an excellent Autosport article written by Paul Thompson back in December 1973, but I presume the tombstone is the final answer.... I will wait for more opinions on it to correct or not the article



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Posted 09 February 2016 - 16:10

I've started a new thread to see if we can finally sort this one out.

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Posted 20 February 2016 - 00:02

https://mirandaribei...ttilio-bettega/ - Revamped Bettega article;


Edited by GMiranda, 20 February 2016 - 00:03.


#47 Alexey Rogachev

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Posted 20 February 2016 - 15:27

Hi Guilherme, have anything gone out of your research into Csaba Kesjar's story?



#48 GMiranda

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Posted 20 February 2016 - 16:56

Hi Guilherme, have anything gone out of your research into Csaba Kesjar's story?

 

Hello Mr.Rogachev!!!! How are you?

No, I can't go further without local sources and knowledge of Eastern European languages, but I don't close the door into a partnership to develop that and publish on my page, crediting the names with joint autorship. I know you don't use social networks, but I managed to find some F.Eastern drivers on Facebook, and some interetsing discussion groups and pages.



#49 Alexey Rogachev

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Posted 20 February 2016 - 17:22

Well, I'm able to read in Czech, Slovak and Polish, and I can assure you that you could hardly find anything particular abour Kesjar in these magazines - just usual race reports from the CPF rounds. There is no doubt that much more could be found in Hungarian press... but I'm as ignorant in Hungarian as you :drunk:



#50 GMiranda

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Posted 20 February 2016 - 18:34

I see.... to upgrade it it would be needed Hungarian reinforcements :D