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FIA prez Jean Todt sues former F1 driver Philippe Streiff over J.Bianchi investigation


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#51 Nathan

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Posted 25 January 2015 - 01:37

 

Streiff gave an honest opinion.

 

That's fine, but if this opinion is false while being portrayed as the truth then that is where the problem lies.

 

I'm sure if I publicly spread false and damaging rumours about you you won't sit back and say "well it's just an opinion".

 

If only Mr. Streiff started it all with "I think Todt..." or "I wonder if..."



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#52 Lee Nicolle

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Posted 25 January 2015 - 08:07

Aaaaah,, in this case the FIA really have done little wrong. IF the drivers had obeyed the double yellows and drove to the circumstances it was perfectly ok to extricate a dead car well off the track. but double yellows were NOT obeyed and a crash happened.

The FIA should have charged all the drivers, [even after the crash they were going flat out] that did not substansially slow.

This at all 'proffesional' events. Safety cars are not needed unless the dead car is on or very close to the track



#53 WOT

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Posted 25 January 2015 - 08:41

Aaaaah,, in this case the FIA really have done little wrong. IF the drivers had obeyed the double yellows and drove to the circumstances it was perfectly ok to extricate a dead car well off the track. but double yellows were NOT obeyed and a crash happened.

The FIA should have charged all the drivers, [even after the crash they were going flat out] that did not substansially slow.

This at all 'proffesional' events. Safety cars are not needed unless the dead car is on or very close to the track

 

Could not agree more on the yellow flag issue.
 
And I am disapointed that Philippe Streiff has backed down on his statement. 
 
But I disagree that "FIA have done liitle wrong"
 
The FIA has for far too long allowed a farce to be made of yellow flags. If ever there was a case to be made, it is enduring demise of obeyance of the yellow flag rule over many, many years. Yellow flags have become a complete joke, and we will have the continuation of this complete stupidity of destroying a race with unecessary use and abuse of the safety car, and now a virtual safety car, all because the FIA does not have the balls to stand up and enforce the existing yellow flag rules!!!


#54 Nemo1965

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Posted 25 January 2015 - 11:14

There is a big difference between the opinion that an investigation had a faulty set-up, the opinion that the results were unsubstantiated, or that the wrong people were chosen for the investigation... and stating the opinion that the whole investigation was a set-up to wipe the sheet clean for the FIA. The last opinion is an accusation, and then you either have to put your money where your mouth is... or back down.

 

Most people misunderstand the notion of 'freedom of expression'. This does not mean that you can for ever say what you want. It does mean that no citizen can be prevented from expressing his or her thoughts... but it does not mean that for that expression you can't be sued for libel or even persecuted in a criminal court.

 

Nothing shameful about Todt and the FIA threatening with lawsuits or Streiff backing down... that is the way things should be handled (instead of with Kalasjnikovs...)



#55 Nathan

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Posted 25 January 2015 - 16:13

 

The FIA has for far too long allowed a farce to be made of yellow flags. If ever there was a case to be made, it is enduring demise of obeyance of the yellow flag rule over many, many years.

 

In the past have the drivers ever spoken up about the issue? If not  I think if we are going to look down on the FIA regarding this issue maybe the drivers should be sat in the boat as well.  Who has a greater interest in their safety?



#56 WOT

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Posted 25 January 2015 - 23:36

In the past have the drivers ever spoken up about the issue? If not  I think if we are going to look down on the FIA regarding this issue maybe the drivers should be sat in the boat as well.  Who has a greater interest in their safety?

 

The drivers will always try and eke out any advantage they can, and over time it has just got worse, and yes as I have said before, it is their responsibility. But it is the overall responsibility of the FIA to ensure rules are being adhered to. The FIA go beserk over .5mm too much flex in a wing, but they won't say boo to disobeying yellow flags. Safety? Go figure.



#57 Dolph

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Posted 26 January 2015 - 00:11

The drivers will always try and eke out any advantage they can, and over time it has just got worse, and yes as I have said before, it is their responsibility. But it is the overall responsibility of the FIA to ensure rules are being adhered to. The FIA go beserk over .5mm too much flex in a wing, but they won't say boo to disobeying yellow flags. Safety? Go figure.

 

The thing is that you can take out a ruler to measure the flex of a wing. But there was no ruler to measure how safely somebody is driving in a yellow flag zone nor any real standards what to measure against. There will be now.



#58 Tsarwash

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Posted 26 January 2015 - 02:21

All this has done is dig up the issue of the Todt and Charlie's handling of driver safety yet again. Well done lads. Many if not most of us here still think that you're not up to the job any more. Todt is managing to parallel Cromwell in my eyes. He was so bad that we asked for the monarchy back, as Todt is doing regarding Max. 



#59 Baddoer

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Posted 26 January 2015 - 03:59

Suing a paralysed man is pretty low in itself.

 

Well, Todt is not quite tall by himself.


Edited by Baddoer, 26 January 2015 - 04:02.


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#60 WOT

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Posted 26 January 2015 - 07:51

The thing is that you can take out a ruler to measure the flex of a wing. But there was no ruler to measure how safely somebody is driving in a yellow flag zone nor any real standards what to measure against. There will be now.

 

The standards to measure against are quite simply an apreciable reduction in speed and the capacity to stop if needed.
 
I would think any official would be capable of judging the difference between 200mph and 50 mph...