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#1 Rupertlt1

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Posted 24 January 2015 - 10:06

Does anybody have an entry list/programme/results for this race meeting?

 

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http://www.motorspor...eting-sept-17th

 

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#2 bradbury west

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Posted 29 January 2015 - 21:20

Sorry, only 1962
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#3 Rupertlt1

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Posted 30 January 2015 - 11:14

Thanks for looking - the car I am interested in seems to be registration JG 9087

 

Update: I've just found a better shot:

 

https://revslib.stan...log/hx889bn5566

 

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Edited by Rupertlt1, 30 January 2015 - 11:33.


#4 humphries

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Posted 03 February 2015 - 11:05

What is the name of the car that you are interested in?



#5 Rupertlt1

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Posted 03 February 2015 - 15:38

I don't know - in the photograph it looks uncannily like the Lotus MkIIIb - and if so, is of historic significance? Could be race #14? RGDS RLT 



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Posted 03 February 2015 - 16:48

Could it be John Teychenne's JVT special that was apparently built around the time of the Lotus Mark IIIs?

Which became Len Terry's first Terrier...



#7 Rupertlt1

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Posted 03 February 2015 - 17:34

The picture - link above - was taken in 1960 - so that presumably rules that out?

 

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#8 Peter Morley

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Posted 04 February 2015 - 22:11

It seems unlikely that it could be the JVT special but the similarity with the Lotus Mark III is remarkable.

 

However the Mark III registration numbers are well known (Mk3 = LMU3, Mk3B = ONK408)

The unfinished Mark III chassis was built as the EWM by Eric Weston and registered XPJ823 in 1956.

I had wondered if the number could have been from the Austin 7 donor car prior to it being registered as a Lotus but the date also rules that out as well.

 

Apparently when Len Terry bought the JVT and turned it into Terrier Mark 1 he replaced the body and chassis which he sold to Tony Butcher in 1958 together with the original log book.

However the JVT was registered YHX344...

In the 80s it was registered as LMU5 when it was rebuilt with a replica Mark III body.



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Posted 04 February 2015 - 22:54

Peter, Many thanks.

I think our best hope is to try and find the programme from Silverstone.

When I spotted the car I did a double-take, having already found pictures of the Lotus Mark IV.

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Posted 05 February 2015 - 13:26

After much digging I have found photocopies of the pages from the 1960 Peterborough MC Silverstone meeting. In Event 4, a handicap race for odds and sods 1101-2000cc Sports Cars, no 35 is John Corfield in a Terrier Mk II, Ford 1172cc. Of the cars of which I cannot recall an image there are Arthur Cook's Buroche-Wombat, P Owen in D Linton's Ford Spl, and P M Moreton's Special 1494cc which finished 5th with only a 10 second start over the scratch cars of Jeremy Cottrell (Lotus 7), Alan Wershat (Lolita) and Peter Dickinson's Lotus-Climax 1500, and was not caught.

 

Of the Lotuses there were 4 Lotus VIIs, D A Dugard's Lotus VIII 1467cc, and P M Sims Lotus X 1990cc  - no Lotus IIIB.

 

Like Corfield, Tony Youlton was in a MK2 Terrier.

 

With the exception of D Wilson's Toucan which I believe the mystery car is not, all the other cars were production BMW 328s, MGAs, TRs etc



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Posted 05 February 2015 - 13:59

After much digging I have found photocopies of the pages from the 1960 Peterborough MC Silverstone meeting. In Event 4, a handicap race for odds and sods 1101-2000cc Sports Cars, no 35 is John Corfield in a Terrier Mk II, Ford 1172cc. Of the cars of which I cannot recall an image there are Arthur Cook's Buroche-Wombat, P Owen in D Linton's Ford Spl, and P M Moreton's Special 1494cc which finished 5th with only a 10 second start over the scratch cars of Jeremy Cottrell (Lotus 7), Alan Wershat (Lolita) and Peter Dickinson's Lotus-Climax 1500, and was not caught.

 

Of the Lotuses there were 4 Lotus VIIs, D A Dugard's Lotus VIII 1467cc, and P M Sims Lotus X 1990cc  - no Lotus IIIB.

 

Like Corfield, Tony Youlton was in a MK2 Terrier.

 

With the exception of D Wilson's Toucan which I believe the mystery car is not, all the other cars were production BMW 328s, MGAs, TRs etc

 

Many thanks. Do you have a #14? I'll check out the set of photographs and assemble a list, as best I can. RGDS RLT



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Posted 05 February 2015 - 15:33

# 14 appeared in Event 3, another 5 lap handicap, this time for sports cars up to 1100cc including Lotus XIs and Lolas.

 

# 14 was called a Worden-Austin 750cc, entered by Team Sigma and driven by Tony Densham. With a one minute start over three scratch Lolas it managed 4th place. Only Jim Saunders Victoria-Climax and the Tim Cash driven Lotus VII 948cc managed to catch it. George Catt's Berkeley 105, 692cc, was the winner. Densham qualified for the 13th and last race of the day, the Motor Sport Trophy Race, but how it fared I do not know.

 

Possibly the other car in the picture is Cash's car, # 63 entered by the rather grandly named Duford Motors Racing Division Ltd.

 

Now the Worden could be a Lotus IIIB.

 

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Posted 05 February 2015 - 15:54

Here is a list assembled from the pics at Revs (best efforts).

Could the car we are looking for be #114?

 

#2 Cycle wing, front engine

#3 Austin Seven, PTD 526

#4 Cycle wing, KY 1844

#5 Speedex?

#6 Berkeley, reg UMJ 840

#9 Berkeley, WMJ 456

#10 Cycle wing, striped nose, reg AOL 410?

#12 Austin A30 or A35

#14 all-enveloping, JA 210? (missing digit)

#16 Austin Healey Sprite, 112 WHX

#18 TR, SAH 137

#22 Ford Anglia, YGC 813

#25 AC Ace, 50 FPF

#26 Cycle wing, VVB 220?

#35 Lotus 2781 EL

#31 Vintage ?LH 43

#33 Lotus, 3 LVX

#34 Cycle wing

#37 Frazer Nash Le Mans Replica (chassis 190), John Dashwood

#38 Buckler, MOR 456

#39 Lotus

#42 Cycle wing, ?92 KLG

#45 Lotus, TVE 948

#46 MGA

#48 Lotus 11, WLK 84 

#50 TR

#54 Sports-racer

#55 MGA, 921 JMA

#56 TR

#57 Lotus 7

#61 FIII

#64 AC Aceca

#65 Cooper single-seater

#66 Berkeley, JON 355

#69? Lotus, 3621 AD?

#73 MGA, 542 DKN

#75 Vintage

#78 Austin Healey, VXP 38

#79 FIII

#82 TR

#86 all-enveloping sports racer, SMO 456

#88 MGA

#89 Turner, B 6498

#91 TR

#92 Lotus, 970 SME

#93 GT, GUO 209

#94 Lotus 11, XMA 818

#95 Sports racer, VPF 272

#98 Ford Zephyr

#106 FIII

#107 DEB Mk 2, registration 467 EV, driver D.E. Boorer,750 special

#108 Cooper single-seater

#115 Cycle wing, striped nose

#114? Cycle wing, DG 9087 

#117 Vintage six-cylinder

#119 Cooper FJ

#121 Jaguar D-Type

#123 FJ

#124 Vintage

#128 Lotus 18

#130 Elva FJ

#131 FJ

#132 FJ

#133 Cooper FJ

#136 HWM, HWM 1

#139 Austin Healey Sprite

#148 Single-seater, front engine

#154 Lotus 7, 8055 NO

#155 Elva

#169 FJ

#173 FJ

#176 Lotus, KDW 783

#179 Jaguar D-Type

#137 FIII

#145 FIII

#182 Lotus 11, SLK 748

#185 Single-seater, bulbous

#183 FIII

#189 FIII

#191 Sports-racer

 

Fragments:

sports racer 111 PPD

all-enveloping sports racer

Berkeley

Vintage, MV 3357

Vintage Aston Martin

TR, HOB 78?

END

 

RGDS RLT


Edited by Rupertlt1, 05 February 2015 - 16:35.


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Posted 05 February 2015 - 16:21

Here is the Worden, reg OU 8089:

 

http://www.classicdr.../a7/1931/180389

 

This has to be the Worden, #2:

 

https://revslib.stan...log/kk691ct5562

 

BTW Tony Densham and Harry Worrall were soon building the Worden dragster, with 1500cc Ford motor and Shorrock supercharger. Arguably the first British engined-dragster.

Densham went on to set world records with the Ford-powered "Commuter" dragster - now in Beaulieu?

 

RGDS RLT 


Edited by Rupertlt1, 05 February 2015 - 16:33.


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Posted 06 February 2015 - 10:41

Sorry to be the bearer of bad news but none of the numbered cars on your list match the cars listed in the 1960 Peterborough MC Silverstone programme. Either the year is wrong (1961?) or more likely the organising club.

 

John



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Posted 06 February 2015 - 13:00

John, I was beginning to wonder whether we were singing from the same hymn sheet?

It is not bad news as we need to correct the Revs database - the date they have is 24 September 1960 - is that the date on your programme?

We have enough evidence from the pictures to pin down the date. I'll stay on the case.

 

RGDS RLT

 

P.S. A quick look and I've yet to find which meeting we are dealing with. This is a bit like playing 3-D chess.

I've already reported a software glitch to Revs as the display was showing "66 of 36" pictures.

This has me wondering whether there are two sets from different occasions!

There were one or two potential clashes (i.e. duplicate numbers) that had me wondering.

 

P.P.S. Some of the pics are from 1958!


Edited by Rupertlt1, 06 February 2015 - 14:37.


#17 Rupertlt1

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Posted 06 February 2015 - 15:43

We now have two datasets, which should help!

Is this any clearer?

Still puzzled by #2 in 1960?

 

20 September 1958:

#6 Berkeley, reg UMJ 840

#16 all-eveloping

#18 TR, SAH 137

#25 AC Ace, 50 FPF

#31 Vintage ?LH 43 

#37 Frazer Nash Le Mans Replica (chassis 190), John Dashwood

#50 TR

#56 TR

#61 FIII

#64 AC Aceca

#65 Cooper single-seater

#66 Berkeley, JON 355

#73 MGA, 542 DKN

#79 FIII

#82 TR

#89 FII

#94 Lotus 11, XMA 818

#95 Sports racer, VPF 272

#103 Cycle wing, AOL 401?

#106 FIII

#107 Berkeley

#108 Cooper single-seater

#121 Jaguar D-Type

#136 HWM, HWM 1

#137 FIII

#145 FIII

#148 Single-seater, front engine

#155 Elva KDY 68

#179 Jaguar D-Type

#182 Lotus 11, SLK 748

#183 FIII - 1958

#185 Single-seater, bulbous

#183 FIII

#189 FIII

#191 Sports-racer

 

Fragments

all-enveloping sports racer

Vintage, MV 3357

Vintage KG 5363

Aston Martin Le Mans

 

 

24 September 1960:

#2 Cycle wing, front engine

#3 Austin Seven, PTD 526

#4 Cycle wing, KY 1844

#5 Speedex?

#9 Berkeley, WMJ 456

#10 Cycle wing, striped nose, reg AOL 410?

#12 Austin A30 or A35

#14 all-enveloping, JA 210? (missing digit)

#16 Austin Healey Sprite, 112 WHX

#16 all-eveloping

#22 Ford Anglia, YGC 813

#26 Cycle wing, VVB 220?

#35 Lotus 2781 EL

#33 Lotus, 3 LVX

#34 Cycle wing

#38 Buckler, MOR 456

#39 Lotus

#42 Cycle wing, ?92 KLG

#45 Lotus, TVE 948

#46 MGA

#48 Lotus 11, WLK 84 

#54 Sports-racer

#55 MGA, 921 JMA

#57 Lotus 7

#69? Lotus, 3621 AD?

#75 Vintage

#78 Austin Healey, VXP 38

#86 all-enveloping sports racer, SMO 456

#88 MGA

#89 Turner, B 6498

#91 TR

#92 Lotus, 970 SME

#93 GT, GUO 209

#98 Ford Zephyr

#107 DEB Mk 2, registration 467 EV, driver D.E. Boorer,750 special

#115 Cycle wing, striped nose

#114? Cycle wing, DG 9087 

#117 Vintage six-cylinder

#119 Cooper FJ

#123 FJ

#124 Vintage

#128 Lotus 18

#130 Elva FJ

#131 FJ

#132 FJ

#133 Cooper FJ

#139 Austin Healey Sprite

#154 Lotus 7, 8055 NO

#169 FJ

#173 FJ

#176 Lotus, KDW 783

 

Fragments:

sports racer 111 PPD

Berkeley

TR, HOB 78?

END

 

RGDS RLT


Edited by Rupertlt1, 07 February 2015 - 16:34.


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Posted 07 February 2015 - 00:09

Nothing to do with the car in question but #95 VPF272 would be the Connaught ALSR sports racer.



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Posted 07 February 2015 - 11:26

The 24/09/1960 club meeting was organised by the North Staffs MC. Unfortunately I do not have programme entry lists for the races.

 

Now the good news, I do have the programme details for the Peterborough MC's Silverstone meeting, 20/09/1958. All the your numbers match the entry lists and when I get time I'll post them.

 

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Posted 07 February 2015 - 12:02

The 24/09/1960 club meeting was organised by the North Staffs MC. Unfortunately I do not have programme entry lists for the races.

 

Now the good news, I do have the programme details for the Peterborough MC's Silverstone meeting, 20/09/1958. All the your numbers match the entry lists and when I get time I'll post them.

 

John

 

Many thanks.

 

Re 20/09/1958 club meeting, Peterborough M.C.

 

http://www.motorspor...ort-silverstone

 

Re 17/09/1960 club meeting, Peterborough M.C.

 

http://www.motorspor...eting-sept-17th

 

Re  24/09/1960 club meeting, North Staffs M.C.

 

http://www.motorspor...north-staffs-mc

 

RGDS RLT


Edited by Rupertlt1, 07 February 2015 - 12:42.


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Posted 07 February 2015 - 16:31

I have added to this list - from the report it seems evident that this is as labelled:

 

24 September 1960, North Staffs M.C.

#2 Cycle wing, front engine

#3 Austin Seven, PTD 526

#4 Cycle wing, KY 1844

#5 Speedex?

#9 Berkeley, WMJ 456

#10 Cycle wing, striped nose, reg AOL 410?

#12 Austin A35

#14 all-enveloping, JA 210? (missing digit)

#16 Austin Healey Sprite, 112 WHX

#22 Ford Anglia, YGC 813

#26 Cycle wing, VVB 220?

#35 Lotus 2781 EL

#33 Lotus, 3 LVX

#34 Cycle wing

#38 Buckler, MOR 456

#39 Lotus

#42 Cycle wing, ?92 KLG

#45 Lotus, TVE 948

#46 MGA

#48 Lotus 11, WLK 84 

#54 Sports-racer

#55 MGA, 921 JMA

#57 Lotus 7

#67 Jaguar C-type, POV 114

#69? Lotus, 3621 AD?

#75 Vintage

#78 Austin Healey, VXP 38

#86 all-enveloping sports racer, SMO 456

#88 MGA, 921 JMA

#89 Turner, B 6498

#91 TR

#92 Lotus, 970 SME

#93 GT, GUO 209

#98 Ford Zephyr

#107 DEB Mk 2, registration 467 EV, driver D.E. Boorer,750 special

#113 Halseylec sports racer, WPK 6

#115 Cycle wing, striped nose

#114? Cycle wing, DG 9087 

#117 Vintage six-cylinder

#119 Cooper FJ

#123 FJ

#124 Vintage

#128 Lotus 18, spinner

#130 Elva FJ

#131 FJ

#132 FJ

#133 Cooper FJ

#134 Austin Healey, TAC 473

#139 Austin Healey Sprite

#154 Lotus 7, 8055 NO

#157 Lotus 11, STO 555

#159 Morgan, WHO 747

#168 Connaught?

#169 FJ

#173 FJ

#174 Lotus 11, POY 780

#176 Lotus, KDW 783

 

Fragments:

sports racer 111 PPD

Berkeley

TR, HOB 78?

END

 

So what we now need is the entry list for this event: 24 September 1960, North Staffs M.C.

 

RGDS RLT


Edited by Rupertlt1, 15 February 2015 - 21:27.


#22 humphries

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Posted 08 February 2015 - 21:14

1958 Peterborough MC Silverstone

 

6   NW Graham (Berkeley)

18 Syd Hurrell (TR3)

25 AE Searle (AC-Bristol)

31 Peter Morley (Bentley 8.0)

37 John Dashwood (Frazer-Nash LM Rep)

65 Nicholas Green (Cooper-Climax F2)

66 Jon Goddard-Watts (Berkeley)

50



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Posted 08 February 2015 - 21:21

Fat Finger

 

50 Dick de Selincourt (TR3)

61 R Jacques (Ettorne-Norton), programme Joqes (sic)

64 Ron Brightman (AC Aceca-Bristol)

73 Colin Shove (MGA)

89 WS Bader (Riley 1.5)

94 Bill Allen (Lotus XI 1.1)

95 RH Smith (Connaught 1.5)

103 J Anziani (AC Austin 750)

106 Peter Luke (Cooper XI-Norton)

107



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Posted 08 February 2015 - 21:23

Yet another finger

 

107 RA Jamieson (Berkeley)

108 George Nixon (Cooper-Climax 1.5)

109



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Posted 08 February 2015 - 21:34

Good Grief, its got a mind of its own.

 

109 n/a

121 Gerry Ashmore (Jaguar D)

136 John Brkaert (HWM-Jaguar)

137 WA Jones (Cooper-Norton)

145 John Fenning (Cooper-Norton)

148 R Radforth (Connaught B F1)

155 JF Barber (Prune 498cc), honestly - that's what it states

179 JB Rodger (Jaguar D)

182 E L Hine (Lotus XI 1.1)

183 WJ Shaw (Cooper-Norton)

185 Mike Parkes (Fry-Climax F2)

189 WE Ford (Cooper-Norton)

191 Ken Simmonds (Elva Mk3-Climax 1.1), a late entry

 

And that's your lot.

 

John



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Posted 08 February 2015 - 21:56

John, Many thanks. I'll sort it all out in due course! RGDS RLT


Edited by Rupertlt1, 08 February 2015 - 21:56.


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Posted 09 February 2015 - 17:57

A few additions have been made to your original list for the 1958 Peterborough event which I have just noticed.

 

56 WB Caldwell (TR)

79 Meeshall (Cooper-Norton), late entry

82 Roy North (TR2/3)

 

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Posted 15 February 2015 - 16:18

20 September 1958:

#6 NW Graham, Berkeley, reg UMJ 840

#16 all-eveloping

#18 Syd Hurrell, Triumph TR3, SAH 137

#25 AE Searle, (AC Ace-Bristol), 50 FPF

#31 Peter Morley, (Bentley 8.0) ?LH 43 

#37 John Dashwood, Frazer Nash Le Mans Replica (chassis 190), 

#50 Dick de Selincourt, TR

#56 WB Caldwell, TR

#61 R Jacques (Ettorne-Norton FIII), programme Joqes (sic) 

#64 Ron Brightman (AC Aceca-Bristol)

#65 Nicholas Green, (Cooper-Climax F2)

#66 Jon Goddard-Watts, Berkeley, JON 355

#73 MGA, 542 DKN

#79 Meeshall (Cooper-Norton FIII), late entry 

#82 Roy North (TR2/3)

#89 WS Bader (Riley 1.5)

#94  Bill Allen (Lotus XI 1.1), XMA 818

#95  RH Smith (Connaught ALSR  1.5 sports racer), VPF 272

#103 J Anziani (AC Austin 750), cycle wing, AOL 401?

#106 Peter Luke (Cooper XI-Norton) FIII

#107 RA Jamieson, Berkeley

#108 George Nixon, (Cooper-Climax 1.5)

#121 Gerry Ashmore, Jaguar D-Type

#136 John Bekaert (HWM-Jaguar), HWM 1

#137 WA Jones (Cooper-Norton)

#145 John Fenning (Cooper-Norton)

#148 R Radforth (Connaught B F1), single-seater, front engine

#155 Elva, KDY 68, conflict here, see next

#155 JF Barber (Prune 498cc), honestly - that's what it states

#179 JB Rodger, Jaguar D-Type

#183 WJ Shaw (Cooper-Norton) FIII

#185 Mike Parkes (Fry-Climax F2), single-seater, bulbous

#189 WE Ford (Cooper-Norton)

#191 Ken Simmonds (Elva Mk3-Climax 1.1), a late entry

 

Fragments

all-enveloping sports racer

Vintage, MV 3357

Vintage KG 5363

Aston Martin Le Mans



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Posted 24 February 2015 - 16:47

According to the DVLA Vehicle Enquiry database DG 9087 is a 1934 Austin currently with a 1125 cc (Ford sidevalve?) engine.  It will be interesting to see whether it still has the Lotus Mk III type nose with headlight pods, presumably made by F.L. Hine of Hornsey who had made the body for the Lotus.



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Posted 30 March 2015 - 13:17

Just to identify some more cars and names from the listing from my 750 Formula information;

#4 is a Speedex 750 - first time I've seen this car and I'm still trying to identify the driver (perhaps DJ Limbach?).

#5 does count as a Speedex - it's actually the FW special built by Team Sigma with a sister car 'Molina' by Mike Featherstonhaugh, Tony Densham and Harry Worrall (plus other 'helpers'). The third car of the team was the 'game changer' #2 Worden, as identified above, shown in photo 2006-001PHIL-1960-b1_56.0_0002  stood up on four oil drums. Moulds for the fibreglass Speedex Silverstone model were taken from the FW special and around 40 Silverstone body tubs subsequently sold by Jem Marsh's Speedex concern in Luton. Depending on when these photos were actually taken, the FW could have been driven by Mike F prior to around November 1960 when it was sold to a R Kellow who was racing it from 1961. This car is still around beautifully restored. I can't identify the crash hats or faces to help dating!

#14 is the Wilks special, the winner of the Goodacre Trophy in 1958 when driven by John Wilks himself. The full registration is JA 2103. However, in this set of photos it is clearly driven by Bryan Small who bought the car, subsequently ditched the very battered enveloping bodywork and fitted a Speedex 750 body to the robust and proven chassis. He successfully raced the car in the 62 season, unfortunately for him co-inciding with the swift #107 DEB, before he moved up to the 1172 Formula in 1963. He sold Speedex JA 2103 to Robin 'Nobby' Westacott and it's a testament to how well it was prepared that it won the Goodacre Trophy in 1963. There are other photos of this car in the Collection.

 

Unlike the opinion above, I can't date these photos prior to 1960 when #14 transitioned from Wilks into Bryan Small's Speedex. #5 FW started racing in the 1959 season and in addition #2 Worden first appeared late in the same season. I think they are from the Peterborough September 17th meeting when the 750 event was won by #2 Worden with #107 DEB second and Small (in #14?) third with Limbach fourth. The 750 Motor Club report on the meeting had a headline of 'Silverstone Shambles' reflecting a major pile up in the 1172 event with the accusasion pointed at the meeting organisers setting the grid positions randomly rather than based on practice times or current form. Bunching lead to a significant shunt between 8 cars at Woodcote. To compound that the works Austin 7 Ulster of Keith Dixon suffered a major roll at Becketts during the 750 event. Does this collection from this Silverstone meeting come from a few meetings, there are a few other notable howlers in amongst the bigger collection of photos?

 

Hope of use. :confused:


Edited by Speedex750, 31 March 2015 - 19:53.


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Posted 31 March 2015 - 15:22

Not DICK de Selincourt but BILL



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Posted 04 May 2015 - 16:20

Just thought that some of you may be interested to know that the Worden described in this topic as Worden #2 Game Changer( we just call it The Worden Special) is back out on track after a lengthy engine rebuild and general freshen up. I think the last time out was 1991.

 

It completed half a dozen or so very slow laps at Silverstone on wednesday to run in the even newer engine following the destruction of the cylinder head in the first re-build!. All well but developed a sputter and stutter( believed to be ignition related ) so we called it quits for the day. No explosions, leaks or horrid sounds so a reasonable first track test.

 

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Posted 06 May 2015 - 12:59

That's good news Carl. My father owned the Worden for a while until a calamitous carburetter fire on the way to Snetterton rather spoiled things.
I seem to remember it at the 750 Sixtieth anniversary at Silverstone in 1999, back in its original colours, but my memory might be playing tricks.