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#1 lyntonh

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Posted 26 January 2015 - 06:42

Australia Day in South Australia 2015 means the second running of Cars of Australia at Strathalbyn Oval.

 

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A nice unrestored Holden 48-215

 

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Matt black Chev rod

 

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Not too keen on the wheels, myself...........

 

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A Ford & Caravan

 

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#2 lyntonh

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Posted 26 January 2015 - 06:46

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Cars of Australia...............?

 

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Original FE Holden

 

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#3 lyntonh

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Posted 26 January 2015 - 06:55

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His car of the day, like mine...?



#4 lyntonh

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Posted 26 January 2015 - 07:15

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Leyland P76

 

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A couple of Kestrels

 

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He brought along his Europa.

 

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Original Olds

 

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#5 lyntonh

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Posted 26 January 2015 - 07:19

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REO

 

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Woof.......

 

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Willys Whippet....& friend

 

 



#6 lyntonh

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Posted 26 January 2015 - 07:22

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Now you know where you are....

 

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???

 

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#7 lyntonh

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Posted 26 January 2015 - 07:25

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Would the original have had a completely red interior?

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#8 lyntonh

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Posted 26 January 2015 - 07:27

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#9 Lee Nicolle

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Posted 26 January 2015 - 08:39

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REO

 

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Woof.......

 

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Willys Whippet....& friend

A very quiet dog in that Reo. You pat him and he ignores you. Possibly the Emu may be the same!



#10 Lee Nicolle

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Posted 26 January 2015 - 08:40

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Would the original have had a completely red interior?

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I doubt it. Especially the indicator mechanism. 

'tis a bit too red!



#11 Ray Bell

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Posted 26 January 2015 - 09:45

Zero in red in the interior...

All light grey, from memory. And they didn't have blinkers until the FE.

#12 Ray Bell

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Posted 26 January 2015 - 09:51

Originally posted by lyntonh
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Chev 4... pre-1929.

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Posted 26 January 2015 - 21:21

What is pocking out the right hand rear, underneath the 59 Vauxhall? Looks to be Tailshaft size!!!!

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Posted 26 January 2015 - 21:28

Maybe a PVC water pipe for carrying flagpoles or the like, with some black race tape over the end.

#15 lyntonh

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Posted 26 January 2015 - 21:47

Spot on with the water pipe.

 

The end cap's been painted black, for some unknown reason.

 

About as unknown to me as leaving the pipe under the car, to make my photo look ugly!!!



#16 Ray Bell

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Posted 26 January 2015 - 23:42

Originally posted by lyntonh
Australia Day in South Australia 2015 means the second running of Cars of Australia at Strathalbyn Oval.....
 
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That looks remarkably like the Eldred Norman pre-war caravan... did you get the details on the sign?

#17 lyntonh

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Posted 27 January 2015 - 01:48

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You'll need good eyes, but see if this helps............Obviously a replica.


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#18 Lee Nicolle

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Posted 27 January 2015 - 03:25

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You'll need good eyes, but see if this helps............Obviously a replica.

You see pop tops are not a modern thing.



#19 Lee Nicolle

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Posted 27 January 2015 - 03:30

Zero in red in the interior...

All light grey, from memory. And they didn't have blinkers until the FE.

I am with you, I feel the trim should be grey too.  And cream wheels.Turn signals were dealer fitted to later FJs. Never factory. That mechanism looks to be the style of 'kit' fitted. FE was the first and for some reason I do not think they were on standards.

It is though a nice van. And fairly rare now. 



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#20 Lee Nicolle

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Posted 27 January 2015 - 03:32

Spot on with the water pipe.

 

The end cap's been painted black, for some unknown reason.

 

About as unknown to me as leaving the pipe under the car, to make my photo look ugly!!!

It is what many do with tents, chairs etc at that type of event. myself included.

And I forgot that was on, again!



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Posted 27 January 2015 - 05:30

Not really a pop-top...

That kind of 'collapsible' caravan has been made in more modern times in South Australia, the hydraulically-operated Prattline, quite a good concept but some problems with structural integrity if not looked after. And hydraulic problems if not looked after as well.

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Posted 28 January 2015 - 07:07

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That green EH in the background of the Goose is a local car too me. He has about 20 EHs and that is the best one. I found about half of its horsepower last year. Turfed the frozen Lucas dissy, fitted a good Bosch and rebuilt the right carby for him. About a 50hp increase!



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Posted 28 January 2015 - 21:54

That green EH in the background of the Goose is a local car too me. He has about 20 EHs and that is the best one. I found about half of its horsepower last year. Turfed the frozen Lucas dissy, fitted a good Bosch and rebuilt the right carby for him. About a 50hp increase!


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All those genuine NASCO rear venetians...I can still remember a steamy day, knees sticking to the hot vinyl as I fitted one to Dad's 56, two tone, Special Sedan :lol:



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Posted 28 January 2015 - 22:12

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Late pre-war Vauxhall, presumably a six?

Holden body, of course. And would you put the kids in the dicky seat or lay out that luggage rack and strap them to that?

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Posted 28 January 2015 - 22:43

Originally posted by Lee Nicolle
I am with you, I feel the trim should be grey too.....


Humiliation for both of us!

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This is from a first class restoration. Though I'd doubt the red anyway. But, as can be seen, I've been wrong before!

.....It is though a nice van. And fairly rare now.


Rare, but not impossible to find, this one is a very good example:

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Even more rare is that plywood divider (did someone mention 'NASCO'?) which cost about four quid!



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#26 Lee Nicolle

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Posted 29 January 2015 - 02:16

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Posted 29 January 2015 - 02:17

Yeah, who said they are rare? Nearly as common as Commodores!

Sorry no dash photos.



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Posted 29 January 2015 - 02:24

While we are at it we may as well have a ute too. Sorry for hijacking your thread Lynton.DSCF0455.jpg



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Posted 29 January 2015 - 02:47

As nice as that blue van resto is...pearlescent steering wheels were always after-market, non-genuwhine and usually done by mug lairs! :lol:



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Posted 29 January 2015 - 03:18

While we are at it we may as well have a ute too. Sorry for hijacking your thread Lynton.DSCF0455.jpg

Hijack............naaaaaaa.........on topic & still answering my query.



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Posted 29 January 2015 - 03:25

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These two were alongside each other. Two black early series, one original & one fully restored.

 

I kept going back to the original one, with its scratches & dents, its bit of rust & a slightly oily engine.

 

It just felt more interesting.

 

The other bloke probably had little choice but to restore it, but the pristine ones always appeal to me.

 

It might go back to the three years when I sold antiques.


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Posted 29 January 2015 - 11:01

As nice as that blue van resto is...pearlescent steering wheels were always after-market, non-genuwhine and usually done by mug lairs! :lol:

Neither the blue one or the red one are quite original. I feel the cream one may have been.But all nice cars.

Pearl wheels are the in thing at the moment. I see then on 40s 50s 60s and even 70s cars. I know an nice grandpa XB with one.

On some cars they look great,, the blue FJ van. Would look good on the red one too!

I had a humpy fan on the ph this afternoon. Evidently later FJ specials had either body color dash or a contrast color such as cream. Standards [vans] had grey or cream. 

48s generally had a flat grey dash.

I feel though GMH did what looked ok on the day. I doubt PMG van had red dashes yet alone steering wheels. Though special order who knows!

That pic at the top of this thread shows an array of original body colors.

As Lynton said the tidy unmolested 48 is more interesting than the resto one. There seems a LOT of black earlies around these days. Yet I can seldom remember any in period. Ex government mostly. A teacher had a black FJ special. 



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Posted 29 January 2015 - 11:07

Humiliation for both of us!

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This is from a first class restoration. Though I'd doubt the red anyway. But, as can be seen, I've been wrong before!


Rare, but not impossible to find, this one is a very good example:

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Even more rare is that plywood divider (did someone mention 'NASCO'?) which cost about four quid!



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Retractor seat belts!!! Oh think of the children!

Note how the fashions have changed,, a push button starter. In the day people changed them to FE key start!

That indicator switch is a different style to the one in the red car. Neither I feel the universal Wibroc?? ones common in the 60s.

The red car has what I feel was a Nasco accescory.



#34 Ian G

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Posted 29 January 2015 - 22:44

That indicator switch is a different style to the one in the red car. Neither I feel the universal Wibroc?? ones common in the 60s.

The red car has what I feel was a Nasco accescory.

 

Long time ago but i think that looks like the one Smith Sons & Rees manufactured for the FJ,if they didn't make then it was sold thru their retail Auto. stores back in the 1960's.



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Posted 30 January 2015 - 06:04

Retractor seat belts!!! Oh think of the children!


Not a good idea in a car with very solid all metal interior like the FJ IMHO.

All seat belts extend under heavy deceleration and retractables also take a small amount of time to tension as well...which is acceptable when you have crashworthy plakky dashboards, air bags and all the other modern safety inclusions in front of you.

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Posted 30 January 2015 - 06:24

Not a good idea in a car with very solid all metal interior like the FJ IMHO.

All seat belts extend under heavy deceleration and retractables also take a small amount of time to tension as well...which is acceptable when you have crashworthy plakky dashboards, air bags and all the other modern safety inclusions in front of you.

I was being sarcastic actually. Though with the situation with club rego here in SA it would be deemed illegall by some clubs. Too modern,, even the 'custom' steering wheel may be. not original. 

One club has got so stupid that the color of the spark plug leads must be original.

Had my Vauxhall mate on the phone today, he is being forced to trailer his car too an event, Though this is him and he does not wish to drill holes in the car for a booster seat for his 7 y/o. On his 56 Vauxhall ute. Seat belts are frowned upon in some clubs as non original. That defenitly applied to retractor belts.

Though his club registrar was all worried about him putting radials on the vehicle,, the current tyres are 40 y/o retreads. Perfectly safe,,, to drive it on the trailer.

Though again, another vehicle you cannot actually buy tyres for. 550 16 6 ply.

 

And Mick,, what is wrong with headbutting an FJ dash,,though the horn button will get you first. lovely sharp plastic as it breaks. And this is now,, FJs are just safe in normal traffic brake wise but a panic stop is an accident in one.

The reason I have no wish to drive cars any older. Many I appreciate but no brakes!



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Posted 30 January 2015 - 21:50

Though again, another vehicle you cannot actually buy tyres for. 550 16 6 ply.
 
And Mick,, what is wrong with headbutting an FJ dash,,though the horn button will get you first. lovely sharp plastic as it breaks. And this is now,, FJs are just safe in normal traffic brake wise but a panic stop is an accident in one.
The reason I have no wish to drive cars any older. Many I appreciate but no brakes!


550 16 6 ply...hmmmmm...I would be checking the anti-queue tyre market (For example, 4 ply in Excelsior below...but 6 ply probably around in another brand)

http://www.antiquety...celsior-vintage

And Lee, HR disc front end in an FJ gives better stoppers :-)

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Posted 31 January 2015 - 02:29

550 16 6 ply...hmmmmm...I would be checking the anti-queue tyre market (For example, 4 ply in Excelsior below...but 6 ply probably around in another brand)

http://www.antiquety...celsior-vintage

And Lee, HR disc front end in an FJ gives better stoppers :-)

http://www.hoppers.c...ppin holden.htm

Apart from buying very expensive low quality tyres that is the problem. And no 6 ply available anyway. With the very narrow but solid rims there is very few tyres with the correct load rating, yet alone diameter. Same with many cars, either way too wide tyres for the rims or lower profile tyres with far less load rating. Neither really any good. Or legal! This will end up with light truck radials that should be on rims a half inch wider mininum. No choice unless you use wider rims. And buying new blank rim bands now is near impossible. And he has no other centres anyway. 15" centres which the sedans use are too small for the utes

 

HR disc front ends  are not original to FJs. nor is the bolt pattern for resto cars. Interestingly too they are fairly poor brakes too really. The callipers are  Mk1 Escort/Cortina size. Drums with good linings are probably better.  All better ofcourse than std FJ.


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Posted 31 January 2015 - 02:46

550 16 6 ply...hmmmmm...I would be checking the anti-queue tyre market (For example, 4 ply in Excelsior below...but 6 ply probably around in another brand)

http://www.antiquety...celsior-vintage

And Lee, HR disc front end in an FJ gives better stoppers :-)

http://www.hoppers.c...ppin holden.htm

That Hopper Stopper bulletin has so many mistakes and ommissions as to be a joke than a factual helpfull guide.



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Posted 31 January 2015 - 05:16

Apart from buying very expensive low quality tyres that is the problem. And no 6 ply available anyway. With the very narrow but solid rims there is very few tyres with the correct load rating, yet alone diameter. Same with many cars, either way too wide tyres for the rims or lower profile tyres with far less load rating. Neither really any good. Or legal! This will end up with light truck radials that should be on rims a half inch wider mininum. No choice unless you use wider rims. And buying new blank rim bands now is near impossible. And he has no other centres anyway. 15" centres which the sedans use are too small for the utes
 
HR disc front ends  are not original to FJs. nor is the bolt pattern for resto cars. Interestingly too they are fairly poor brakes too really. The callipers are  Mk1 Escort/Cortina size. Drums with good linings are probably better.  All better ofcourse than std FJ.

 
 

That Hopper Stopper bulletin has so many mistakes and ommissions as to be a joke than a factual helpfull guide.


Lee...just examples of what can be done...sorry, didn't mean to start WW3 :well:



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Posted 31 January 2015 - 09:15

 
 


Lee...just examples of what can be done...sorry, didn't mean to start WW3 :well:

Not having a go at you at all!



#42 Ray Bell

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Posted 31 January 2015 - 11:24

Which car are we talking about with 16" rims?

Not a Vauxhall or a Holden from the fifties.

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Posted 31 January 2015 - 19:24

Which car are we talking about with 16" rims?

Not a Vauxhall or a Holden from the fifties.

E series Vauxhall ute. They did have 16s



#44 Lee Nicolle

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Posted 10 February 2015 - 22:25

I guess our roving reporter did not get too the All British Day.

And no nor did I.



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Posted 10 February 2015 - 23:26

I guess our roving reporter did not get too the All British Day.

And no nor did I.

Don't you mean "raving" reporter.....

 

And yes he did....just be patient....



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Posted 11 February 2015 - 02:47

I read in an Oz Vintage Car mag.(2013? ed.) last week while i was getting my hair cut that Avon & Michelin still have the moulds for various combinations of crossply 16" tyres,i think they were talking about tyres for an old Morgan but not a subject i know much about.

 

 

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A few çheap old Merc's and a $28,000 FJ listed here...

 

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