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#251 chunder27

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Posted 20 November 2015 - 09:06

Glad they are leaving Wtcc

Cant really see why they went there in the first place, they just outspent everyone in a totally ridiculous way and ruined the series that was hardly in tye best of health when they showed up

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#252 phrank

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Posted 20 November 2015 - 09:38

Glad they are leaving Wtcc

Cant really see why they went there in the first place, they just outspent everyone in a totally ridiculous way and ruined the series that was hardly in tye best of health when they showed up

This is a common theme in autosport, watch Ford ruin GT racing next year with their new Ford GT



#253 chunder27

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Posted 20 November 2015 - 10:42

I doubt Ford will be that good, most things they have done in recent years gave not really meant domination

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Posted 20 November 2015 - 20:25

This is a common theme in autosport, watch Ford ruin GT racing next year with their new Ford GT

I can't think of anything in racing that Ford have achieved since the GT40 outside NASCAR.  So no great hopes for the latest effort.



#255 FrAnC1s96

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Posted 20 November 2015 - 21:19

I can't think of anything in racing that Ford have achieved since the GT40 outside NASCAR. So no great hopes for the latest effort.


They did dominate the BTCC in 2000, although admittedly against a depleted field, and didn't do too badly during the loeb era in the WRC getting a manufacturers title or two if I am not mistaken...

#256 phrank

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Posted 20 November 2015 - 21:55

The new Ford GT looks to me a purpose build race car, that happens to be street legal, to an extend similar to the Mercedes CLR and the Porsche GT1.



#257 AlexLangheck

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Posted 20 November 2015 - 21:56

2 Manufacturer Titles?? Wow, how impressive...... For all their WRC history, they won very little. 1979 World drivers Title with Waldegaard - and a Title in 1981 with Ari Vatanen, albeit run by David Sutton. When 4WD was proven as the way to go it took them until 1986 for their Gp B car to debut.
A pretty damning statement of their world Motorsport 'success'.

#258 Risil

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Posted 20 November 2015 - 22:15

I can't think of anything in racing that Ford have achieved since the GT40 outside NASCAR.  So no great hopes for the latest effort.

 

Indycar championship with Nigel Mansell in 1993 and Indy 500 with Jacques Villeneuve in 1995.


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#259 OvDrone

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Posted 20 November 2015 - 22:34

Nearly winning stuff with Hirvonen doesn't count?



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#260 AlexLangheck

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Posted 20 November 2015 - 22:52

Ford are good at 'nearly winning'....

#261 chunder27

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Posted 20 November 2015 - 22:56

People are forgetting they utterly dominated Group A Touring cars for a long time, and on some tracks could hold their own with a full works Godzilla, the car that ruined Group A racing.

 

But Ford are not a power, neither are GM really.

 

The new car will be decent, but unless they sell it to everyone the grid will still be largely Ferraris and Astons.

 

M Sport do a good job in rallying with their cars, the full amchine has never been a match apart from the car Martin drove, that was the best WRC car for a year.  Other than that theri cars ahve always been good but not good enough.

 

But their lower level stuff is good.  But they never quite hit the mark, S2000 they did OK then Skoda and peugeot battered them, S1600 they used a Puma lol! 



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Posted 27 November 2015 - 23:32

Good news for 2016 as WTCC is changing race format: reverse grid for race 1 and "normal" grid for a longer race 2.



#263 AlexLangheck

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Posted 28 November 2015 - 12:03

Thank goodness this season is over....

Will Citroen get some proper competition next year?? I'm glad Loeb is out of it, and can have a proper challenge in XC Rallies.

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Posted 28 November 2015 - 13:06

People are forgetting they utterly dominated Group A Touring cars for a long time, and on some tracks could hold their own with a full works Godzilla, the car that ruined Group A racing.

 

Watching some of the old videos on Youtube, 5 Sierra RS500s at the front of the field look bloody spectacular.



#265 chunder27

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Posted 28 November 2015 - 13:48

I ahve to be honest risil, I was there, it was amazing, the cars were very hard to drive, sounded amazing and the who,e thing was backed up with the M3's, the one off stuff liek Supras, Holdens and Maseratis and also the great clas battles.

Super Touring was fabulous, but rather OTT in terms of budget.
 

 

And I hvaent watched a BTCC race for years, so it seems maybe touring car racing at least in world terms has had its time.



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Posted 28 November 2015 - 19:00

FINAL STANDINGS:

1. López - 475p

2. Muller - 357p

3. Loeb - 356p

4. Ma - 241p

5. Tarquini - 197p

6. Michelisz - 193p

7. Monteiro - 177p

8. Bennani - 127p

9. Valente - 120p

10. Huff - 103p

11. Chilton - 96p

12. Catsburg - 41p

13. Coronel - 39p

14. D'Aste - 28p

15. Van Lagen - 16p

16. Lapierre - 8p

17. Thompson - 6p

18. Filippi - 6p

19. Girolami - 5p

20. Demoustier - 5p

21. Rydell - 4p

22. Sritrai - 3p

23. Schmitz - 1p

24. Borkovic - 0p

25. Kozlovskiy - 0p

26. Homola - 0p

27. Al-Attiyah - 0p

 

INDEPENDENT DRIVERS

1. Michelisz

2. Bennani

3. Chilton

4. Valente

5. D'Aste

6. Coronel

7. Demoustier

8. Filippi

9. Sritrai

10. Schmitz

11. Borkovic

12. Homola

13. Al-Attiyah

 

INDEPENDENT TEAMS

1. ROAL

2. Campos

3. Zengo

4. Loeb

5. Munnich

6. Craft-Bamboo

7. NIKA

8. Proteam