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#1 Barry Boor

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Posted 11 February 2015 - 20:26

I wonder if anyone has a programme from the above event?

If there is one around, does it have the car colours listed? I am particularly interested in the Essex Racing Team Coopers of Tony Maggs and John Whitmore.

Dear old David McKinney sent me a black and white picture of Maggs a couple of years ago and the car looks very light, maybe even white, with a dark panel down the nose.

I remember Jackie Oliver driving an F.2 Lotus with Essex in the team name and that was white and green but there isn't necessarily any link between the two teams.

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#2 bradbury west

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Posted 11 February 2015 - 20:51

Barry, I will have a look, but I also recall Whitmore entered at Snetterton in a Cooper so will see if I can find that one, in case it has the colour listed
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#3 Barry Boor

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Posted 11 February 2015 - 20:56

The picture David sent me was from Snetterton, Roger.

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Posted 11 February 2015 - 21:09

Have you tried Michael Oliver, Barry? He said his Dad had the Kentish 100 programme in this earlier thread:

http://forums.autosp...me-a-long-shot/

#5 Sharman

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Posted 11 February 2015 - 21:32

Barry

The one Essex Racing car which I was ever concerned with was one of the DB4GTs, it was a very pale Lime Green

John



#6 Barry Boor

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Posted 11 February 2015 - 21:57

That's interesting, John.  Would you say it was anything like the B.R.P./U.D.T. green?



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Posted 11 February 2015 - 22:03

Barry, sorry to screw up. It was 1961 and  Whitmore was in the Gilby Climax sports car.  The main reason I recall Whitmore in something different is because Steve McQueen was listed as the alternative  driver. The entry list was on the same  photocopy as the race list involving my researched marque. Did David's pic have a date at all, makes it easier to trace?

BTW pls pm me with your new e mail address.

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Posted 11 February 2015 - 22:11

Barry, Snett meeting 17.9.60, Race 2,  car nos 23 and 24, Maggs and Whitmore,  Ogier Team Coopers. 1475cc, no colours listed

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Posted 11 February 2015 - 22:27

The plot deepens. Looking in Autosport  for clues, 23.9.60, I looked by chance in 30.9 issue to see why I had markered a page for notice. It is an ad for John Ogier selling  the 2 Coopers  , c/w bw picture.  One car is dark, ex RRC Walker, the other, listed as ex Maggs,  is an intriguing 2 tone with light nose and panniertanks, but dark "bonnet" and engine cover. Not in colour but I am happy to scan it in 600x600 dpi hi res. Does that scheme tie in with David's pic?.

 Might Mr Goddard have done some shots at that time, 1960 ?  Maggs and Sir John were both comingmen , although Sir John has  told me he was never very keen on  single seaters.

Roger 

 

PS it is only a small, very small photo.



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Posted 11 February 2015 - 22:34

This is not in colour but might be revealing:

 

https://revslib.stan...s Hatch Kentish

 

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#11 Barry Boor

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Posted 11 February 2015 - 23:10

Yes, I think that is the livery on the car in the Snetterton picture that David sent me. I can't check it because it's on my old computer which needs some TLC.

The car in the picture - from the helmet I'd say it is Whitmore - certainly doesn't look white and a darker colour.

Edited by Barry Boor, 11 February 2015 - 23:11.


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Posted 12 February 2015 - 00:27

Same colour scheme as in the advert. The no 34 car on REVS is Maggs though, T'other is Sir John
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#13 Barry Boor

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Posted 12 February 2015 - 02:16

What makes you think that the car in the REVS picture is #34? I can't see a number clearly but what I can see looks more like 32 than 34 and I'm going by the driver's face.

Either way, that is definitely the livery, I just can't pin down the colours.

Good shot of Mike McKee in one of those photos, too.

Ah, I just realised, we are talking about different pictures..... Yes, clearly Maggs in #34 but Whitmore on page 1, followed by Geoff Duke's Lotus 18.

Initially, I never noticed that there was more than one page of pictures.

Edited by Barry Boor, 12 February 2015 - 02:34.


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Posted 12 February 2015 - 07:33

Barry Boor, on 11 Feb 2015 - 22:57, said:Barry Boor, on 11 Feb 2015 - 22:57, said:

That's interesting, John.  Would you say it was anything like the B.R.P./U.D.T. green?

 

 Barry, the BRP cars were of a darker hue and the OGIER cars were very pale indeed. Somewhere I have a photo which I'll look for a email to you if you'll pm your email.

John

 


Edited by Sharman, 12 February 2015 - 07:35.


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Posted 12 February 2015 - 08:40

The good news - I have the programme. The bad news - it doesn't give the colours of the cars.



#16 Barry Boor

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Posted 12 February 2015 - 09:23

B*gg*r! Another dead end. Still, thank you for taking the trouble to look.

Edited by Barry Boor, 12 February 2015 - 09:24.


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Posted 12 February 2015 - 09:30

As a side issue, I wish I had found out about those pictures before I ran my race.

I assumed Gendebien would be in a Belgian yellow Cooper not a Yeoman Credit car as Y.C. did not run in that many F.2 races in 1960. Plus I see Flockhart's Emeryson had a Tony Marsh-type White nose, mine didn't.

Because of the fact that I hadn't got around to building a Lotus 18 for Tony Marsh, I had him in his Cooper with Jack Lewis in his nearly black and white Cooper #40, in which he was entered, rather than the #20 car that he actually drove.

Also the Russell team car for Mike McKee had changed the design of the large silver panel on the nose. In 1959 it just went right to the tip but I see they rounded it off and boy did they use big numbers!

Edited by Barry Boor, 12 February 2015 - 09:32.