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#801 BuddyHolly

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Posted 05 June 2016 - 16:40

I've never been convinced...

 

That the FIA didn't do a total hatchet job on Schumacher in 94, with no competition he would have romped to the title so they tried their best to slow him and aid the opposition.

 

That Gilles Villenueve was champion material

 

That Colin Chapman had 'class'.  ie:- celebrating winning the title when it was gifted to you as the opposition didn't race because one of their drivers was killed is very poor sportsmanship indeed. 



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#802 PayasYouRace

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Posted 05 June 2016 - 16:46

 

That Colin Chapman had 'class'.  ie:- celebrating winning the title when it was gifted to you as the opposition didn't race because one of their drivers was killed is very poor sportsmanship indeed. 

 

While Schumacher and Benetton in 1994 has been done to death on this thread already and Gilles' chances of taking a title are purely academic, I'm intrigued by this one. Which title win was that?



#803 DeKnyff

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Posted 05 June 2016 - 17:58

While Schumacher and Benetton in 1994 has been done to death on this thread already and Gilles' chances of taking a title are purely academic, I'm intrigued by this one. Which title win was that?

 

I imagine it could be 1973, when Lotus-JPS won the constructors title and rival Tyrrell withdrew from last race, after François Cevert was tragically killed.



#804 Peter Perfect

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Posted 05 June 2016 - 18:00

That F1 drivers are the best drivers in the world.

 

I can't see them competing in multiple series at the same time, but I'd love for them to move on from F1 after say 5 years and try their hand at something else and show how good they are.



#805 as65p

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Posted 05 June 2016 - 18:03

I imagine it could be 1973, when Lotus-JPS won the constructors title and rival Tyrrell withdrew from last race, after François Cevert was tragically killed.

 

Lotus already led the constructors table going into the last race, so... meh.



#806 ensign14

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Posted 05 June 2016 - 18:04

I imagine it could be 1973, when Lotus-JPS won the constructors title and rival Tyrrell withdrew from last race, after François Cevert was tragically killed.

 

And even that wasn't as if it had been a gimme, Tyrrell had to beat Lotus and finish in the points to win that one. 

 

There's footage of the pitlane on youtube when the reports got back.  Chapman's reaction was one of shock.  "Cevert...bloody hell."  And at the finish of the race you can't see the usual hat-slinging celebration.  Although to be fair you can't see the entire pit.

 



#807 Myrvold

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Posted 05 June 2016 - 18:22

I've never been convinced that forum members should refer to drivers using their 3 letter FOM codes.

 

Agreed. Especially when 90% of the times one write something wrong, or trying to make their own 3 letter code based on future or former drivers...



#808 BCM

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Posted 10 June 2016 - 08:30

“It is nothing to do with money. It is not the point. We would be happy to have them on board if they didn't pay us!”

 

Bernie Ecclestone - 10/6/2016 - Re the Heineken deal.

 

Our Alien Overlords have finally slipped up - those words would never have passed the real Bernie's lips - return him to us you alien fiends!



#809 Junky

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Posted 13 April 2018 - 20:35

Thanks for the laugh.

 

I never knew spectacular yet erratic driving could be ranked so high. High enough to rank Villeneuve higher than a pilot who won a WDC with a V8 ground effect car and then two other WDCs with turbo engines and no ground effects. All this for different teams, by the way. Plus he won 23 races (for three teams) over a decade before, during and after turbos while competing against Villeneuve himself, Jones, Rosberg, Prost, Lauda, Senna, Mansell, etc. And each of Piquet's WDCs came with a different engine manufacturer.

 

Edit: Between 1980 and 1999 Williams and McLaren won all WDCs except 4. Two of which were won by Schumacher, and two by Piquet.

:up:

 

Piquet is always incomprehensibly vastly underrated by F1 fans in general and in particular by British Press - maybe because of the fight with Mansell. Whether you have to scroll down or click in page 3 to see his name in any a all time top drivers list.



#810 Kegga2018

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Posted 13 April 2018 - 20:46

That the introduction of the halo wasn't influenced by Bianchi's death.

#811 DS27

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Posted 13 April 2018 - 20:55

That motorsport forums aren't a monumental waste of everyone's time.



#812 chrisj

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Posted 13 April 2018 - 21:01

I've never been convinced ...

 

that racing journalists actually know any more about what's going on than the fans watching on TV. This seems (to me) to have been the case for a long while, and may have even been worse before televised races. It makes me question how factual or accurate some of the old race reports I've read really are.



#813 Myrvold

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Posted 13 April 2018 - 21:06

Piquet is always incomprehensibly vastly underrated by F1 fans in general and in particular by British Press - maybe because of the fight with Mansell. Whether you have to scroll down or click in page 3 to see his name in any a all time top drivers list.

I've never been convinced that people resurrect so old threads on random :drunk:



#814 Yamamoto

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Posted 13 April 2018 - 21:15

I've never been convinced that not wanting to compete with Jarno Trulli was the reason that Giancarlo Fisichella kept his hair quite short at the latter end of his F1 career.



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Posted 13 April 2018 - 21:19

that Ferrari are so important that they need extra money and special treatment from the FIA just for staying in the sport.



#816 Maxioos

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Posted 13 April 2018 - 21:40

i'm embarrassed to say, but,

 

I have never been convinced Max his first win wasn't a set-up. You still have to pull it off, so no guarantees. Max and others doesn't even have to know it's a planned/helped victory.

But i could see a situation some big powers behind the scenes have pulled some stringes and convinced some others (for sake/saving of the sport or just $$)

 

The amount of publicity (read money) that the sport (and so all participants in possible scam) got from it has still until this day has positive influences for all parties.

 

And, well, it's my realism and knowledge sport match fixes have been from all time, all places, all sports, so cannot rule out F1 in that regard.



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Posted 14 April 2018 - 06:31

I've never been convinced that not wanting to compete with Jarno Trulli was the reason that Giancarlo Fisichella kept his hair quite short at the latter end of his F1 career.

 

Lol. That's quite an observation. :D