88 replies to this topic

[HeadFirst]

BRM V16.  May have been gash, but, ber-limey.

Wasn't it an H-16, or did they have a V-16 too?

[Amphicar]

Wasn't it an H-16, or did they have a V-16 too?

The V16 was a 1.5 litre supercharged engine of the early 1950s. The H16 was a 3 litre normally aspirated engine of 1966-68

Edited by Amphicar, 06 March 2015 - 23:15.

[HeadFirst]

For me, in F1 it's gotta be the DFV ....... got the whole David/Goliath thing going on. All racing in the mix however, my vote goes to the inline 4 cyllinder 2-stroke 750cc Yamaha engine found in the OW31.

[HeadFirst]

The V16 was a 1.5 litre supercharged engine of the early 1950s. The H16 was a 3 litre normally aspirated engine of 1966-68

I wondered. The V predates me by a few years, was it any more successful than the H?

[AustinF1]

The Subaru Boxer 12;

 

As an STi driver myself, this makes my pants very happy.

[Wuzak]

I wondered. The V predates me by a few years, was it any more successful than the H?

 

No.

[Rasputin]

I guess a negative correlation between exciting and successful isn't really all that surprising.

You just might have a pont there E.B., I'll give you the Life Racing 3.5 W12;

 

[KingTiger]

Imagine the look on Newey's face if he had to package that W12 in one of his cars.

[Henri Greuter]

Imagine the look on Newey's face if he had to package that W12 in one of his cars.

 

 

Something like that almost happened to John Barnard in the early years of the first turbo era. A German/Liechtensteiner (?) company Heidegger had created a turbocharged in-line-6 with power takeoff in the center of the ngine and they offered it to McLaren. Barnard told that despite the engine might be perfect for an engine man, it was a nightmare for any F1 designer to squeeze within an F1 chassis that needed to focus on aerodynamics etc as well. The engine needed to be an integral part of the car and that was pretty much what he did with the TAG-Porsche. That engine had a lot of details John Barnard had demanded.

 

Henri

[Rasputin]

The TAG-Porsche engine was basically designed by John Barnard, with Porsche as a sub-contractor, the result was stunning;

 

 

But somehow I like Guy Negre's 3.5 W12 better still;

 

[Henri Greuter]

I have no pictures of it seen but the word is that before WW2 Alfa Romeo once built a V12 enigne with a triple Roots blower arrangement for each bank of cylinders (thus 6 Roots combined!) and these Roots were aspirated by a centrifugal supercharger !!!!

 

That must be the ultimate nightmare for every fan of big, normally aspirated engines....

 

 

Henri

[Amphicar]

I wondered. The V predates me by a few years, was it any more successful than the H?

Sadly the V16 was even less successful than the H16. The V16 never won a Championship Grand Prix (it only ever started two and its best finish was a 5th place). The H16 at least managed one World Championship Grand Prix win - the 1966 US GP, albeit in the back of a Lotus 43 not a BRM P83.

[OO7]

Edited by OO7, 07 March 2015 - 14:26.

[Rasputin]

The 1965 Honda transverse 1.5 V12, simply glorious;

 

[David1976]

When I hear that 2003 BMW V10 scream I see Bernies point of view when it comes to the sound of F1 Engines. I really do.

[Rasputin]

When I hear that 2003 BMW V10 scream I see Bernies point of view when it comes to the sound of F1 Engines. I really do.

Or the Ferrari 3.0 Flat 12;

 

[30ft penguin]

If we're going beyond F1 (as so many have done in this thread so far), why not mention the Porsche 917 and its V12. Those shifts get me every time.

 

Edited by 30ft penguin, 08 March 2015 - 04:03.

[BlinkyMcSquinty]

Don't forget the ultimate expression of the Porsche 917 engine, the Turbopanzer. It had twin turbos, and so much power ....... to quote Mark Donohue

 

If you can leave two black stripes from the exit of one corner to the braking zone of the next, you have enough horsepower.

 

[OO7]

Don't forget the ultimate expression of the Porsche 917 engine, the Turbopanzer. It had twin turbos, and so much power ....... to quote Mark Donohue

 

If you can leave two black stripes from the exit of one corner to the braking zone of the next, you have enough horsepower.

 

The Beast from the East!!!

[BlinkyMcSquinty]

Exciting? never a dull moment.

 

[Lemans]

Since we've moved on to different forms of motorsport, here's the Matra V12 in the back of the 650. Perfect tone and not painfully loud. Just beautiful.

Enjoy.

[BRG]

It was a F1 engine originally and is still the most exciting of all!

[carlt]

maybe not on topic, but it is the most exciting engine start up [other than my own builds] that i've ever seen

http://theoldmotor.com/?p=133946

 

 

on Grand Prix engines this must be high on the list

[BlinkyMcSquinty]

The 1965 Honda transverse 1.5 V12, simply glorious;

 

 

I would like to expand on this wonderful jewel. It was first tried on the RA 270 of 1964, but did not race. The RA 271 of 1965 did race. Honda were the only ones to use a V-12, even Ferrari were using V-8's at that time. And while the V-8's reached around 9500 RPM, the Honda spun those 12 little pistons up to 13,000 RPM. The engine was mounted sideways, the drive from the crankshaft taken off the middle, leading to a six speed sequential gearbox. Remember, back then everyone else were using the conventional H-pattern gearbox. Keen observers will also note the fuel injection, very advanced for that era. The exhausts from the front bank snaked behind the driver to exit below the gear box, while the exhausts from the rear bank passed directly aft.

 

Think about it, the highest revving engine, V-12 with the exhausts coming out like something from a pipe organ.

 

The RA 270

 

The RA 271

[Wuzak]

What about a 250 GTO

 

[Rasputin]

I guess you mean the engine, right?

 

[Wuzak]

Ferrari 312B

 

 

Car sound starts at ~3:30

 

 

Ferrari 312B at ~0:50

[Wuzak]

 

 

 

[Victor_RO]

Since we've gone beyond F1 engines... Ilmor 265E / Mercedes-Benz 500I. Yes, it's a pushrod-actuated engine, but the scale of the engineering challenge and the timeframe in which it went from thought to dyno to car to winning the '94 Indy 500 is astonishing.

 

[kpastri]

I think the current V6 hybrid power units are the most exciting. Absolutely magnificent in my opinion. Top tier technology and efficiency. F1 made a leap forward with them.

[Victor_RO]

Also, since the discussion has moved on far enough to include other forms of motorsport apart from F1, topic renamed.

[OO7]

 

 

 

Ladies and gentlemen, we are now approaching LAX, if you would put your seats and trays in their upright position.....................

[Masterschitz]

here the first of the serie,

 

 

but for me its the RS4 the most amzing f1 engine ever made 

 

 

Senna curving under pressure 

 

 

Edited by Masterschitz, 09 March 2015 - 09:58.

[Rasputin]

A forgotten beauty; The never raced Alfa Romeo, post-Carlo Chiti, 3.5 V10.

 

[kevinracefan]

uhh. that says chrysler on it, too.. kinda kills it, LOL...

[MaxisOne]

Them Bimmer Engines were no joke !!! 

 

Nothing like the Willies thundering around the Circuit in those Bimmers.

 

The Mercs are pretty handy as well 

[Rasputin]

The never raced Matra 1.5 V6 turbo;

 

[ninetyzero]

I'm not sure if it's the most exciting engine ever but the noise these old Beemers made makes me need a cold shower...

 

[Afterburner]

Honda LM-AR7, hands down. Chills.

Every. Single. Time.