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#1 Lotus53B

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Posted 06 March 2015 - 14:28

http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/31749919

 

I saw this on the BBC website - my father says he saw her race - and regardless of Sir Stirling's somewhat archaic mindset, I thought it an interesting piece.



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#2 Vitesse2

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Posted 06 March 2015 - 15:19

That could have been a much better article if it had been written by someone who actually knew something about rallying. Or even about women in motor sport. Ben Dirs appears to specialise in boxing.



#3 BRG

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Posted 06 March 2015 - 18:56

That 'unwieldy Austin-Healey' looks more like a Peugeot?



#4 RS2000

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Posted 06 March 2015 - 22:30

What's a "World Rally Championship Race"?



#5 Allan Lupton

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Posted 07 March 2015 - 13:06

That 'unwieldy Austin-Healey' looks more like a Peugeot?

Looks even more like the Monte Carlo Rally A40 of 1959 . . .



#6 P.Dron

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Posted 07 March 2015 - 19:57

That Pininfarina looks very much like a Pininfarina.



#7 LotusElise

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Posted 07 March 2015 - 21:16

If Pat had been alive and well when Sir Stirl made his inane comments about women drivers in 2013, she would have dealt with him severely.

 

He is entitled to his views, of course, but I do find it a bit sad that he feels the need to have them when his sister, and to a lesser extent, his mother, were living proof that they weren't really justified.



#8 john aston

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Posted 08 March 2015 - 07:12

Great driver , national  treasure etc but the dinosaur views do grate .



#9 wolf sun

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Posted 09 March 2015 - 11:09

Of course there are reasons for this - just as there are reasons for Chinese people or black Africans not featuring heavily in the history of top-level motorsport. Nothing to do with biological factors or mental capabilities however. That's just plain old b*ll*cks.

Sporting giant that Moss is, he is also a very old man, and some of his views are testament to that.



#10 john aston

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Posted 10 March 2015 - 06:31

Let's judge drivers on what they achieve rather than what they may be - but also be mindful  that even though most successful GP  drivers have been  white, from reasonably well off families ,straight , Christian or Jewish white Europeans does not connote any inherent superior ability possessed by such people. but reflects the opportunities which have been available and the prejudices which society held against people not conforming to this ' ideal' . Sir Stirling Moss of all people might  reflect on his privilege to have the right talent at the right time and in the right country .



#11 Doug Nye

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Posted 03 April 2015 - 07:36

Charges of talking judgemental tosh should not be confined to Moss (the male one) if the content of this thread is anything to go by...  As one who frequently tends to throw stones in glass houses I recognise several others here.

 

Pat was as exceptional as her brother, and part of that capability was that she was the first to acknowledge she was not cut out - in capability - to be a truly star-quality International racing driver.  Otherwise that is exactly what she would have become.

 

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#12 Mal9444

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Posted 04 April 2015 - 10:18

I met Pat Moss a couple of times in later years. Her somewhat ironic nickname for her brother was "ah yes, Stirling Myth..." :)



#13 Doug Nye

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Posted 05 April 2015 - 20:03

:p