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[FullThrottleF1]

Title says it all is this the end of the road for Sauber?

Edited by FullThrottleF1, 12 March 2015 - 13:09.

[Jon83]

Will they last the weekend may be the question.

[Radion]

Yes, Bernie will make sure of that. 

[Jimisgod]

As Van Der Garde GP, perhaps?

One of FI, Lotus or Sauber will be bought out before years end.

[Spillage]

You have to wonder what VdG's motives are. No doubt he's been mistreated, but he'll get neither seat nor compensation if Sauber go bankrupt.

[ninetyzero]

Not a chance.

[ninetyzero]

In fact with the way F1 is going at the moment I reckon we'll be lucky if there's as many as 10 cars on the Abu Dhabi grid.

[sopa]

You have to wonder what VdG's motives are. No doubt he's been mistreated, but he'll get neither seat nor compensation if Sauber go bankrupt.

 

His motive is obviously compensation. Even if Sauber goes bankrupt, doesn't do vdG any harm for trying to get some!

[Nemick]

I agree that compensation is probably the motivator here, but what I don't understand, yet, is why a team in desperate financial straits would have signed VdG so early last year. I have to imagine that there was some financial justification for signing him so early and then later reneging on the deal. Very strange.

[SB]

not looking good I'm afraid.

[tomisumi]

Question should be - will F1 last the season?

[sopa]

I agree that compensation is probably the motivator here, but what I don't understand, yet, is why a team in desperate financial straits would have signed VdG so early last year. I have to imagine that there was some financial justification for signing him so early and then later reneging on the deal. Very strange.

 

I don't understand either. I don't know, who writes contracts in Sauber, but somebody forgot something for sure.

[DamonHillOfBeans]

Season? Will Sauber last the weekend more like.

[FullThrottleF1]

I always feel like a killjoy when I tell my dad (a lifelong fan, although doesn't really check the news about it) all these problems. Especially when he is looking forward to the 1st race then I telll him "oh...by the way Saubers gonna go bankrupt" Expect thids to be followed by FI and Manor this season. Just...DIE...F1.

[paulogman]

it's a real mess, and I wonder if Peter Sauber still wants his name associated with this bunch of clowns

[RockBrocaine]

Too early to say. I think Monisha, won't survive the whole year or at least into 2016 if they do make it through. It's obvious she's the source of this blunder, so I don't know how much influence P.Sauber has on the team at this time, but he needs to step in to straighten this out and keep the teams good name(his name).

[FullThrottleF1]

Peter's son should run the team.

[aramos]

Despite them being in clear trouble I can't see them withdrawing. Bernie will do something first to avoid it happening. The sport can't afford to lose more teams.

[Craven Morehead]

I agree that compensation is probably the motivator here, but what I don't understand, yet, is why a team in desperate financial straits would have signed VdG so early last year. I have to imagine that there was some financial justification for signing him so early and then later reneging on the deal. Very strange.

I would guess that VDG brought *a lot* of money so they scooped him up. Then later the other two guys came knocking and they had even better financial backing, so he was out.

[Sarkis]

I don't think they will last under current management.

 

Unless Ericsson's or Nasr's legal teams screwed up royally, there will be at least one driver being awarded damages Sauber cannot pay.

 

Only way out of that for them is to get new investors who in exchange for equity might be willing to pay off one of these drivers. After this royal mess, these investors are however unlikely to want to work with MK.

Edited by Sarkis, 12 March 2015 - 16:13.

[charly0418]

Peter's son should run the team.

 

Thats a terrible idea. He might be even worse than Monisha

 

He's the head of Marketing btw

[Wander]

Maybe.

[sopa]

Will Sauber last the season?

 

First let's see, how does this confusing weekend evolve. Though I do suspect Kaltenborn may not last the season. But Sauber as a team based in Hinwil may survive, even if under another ownership.

[MrEfz]

I hope sauber survive,but unless Kaltenborn jumps on a sword rather quick,it may be the death knell if responsability is not taken swiftly.

[danmills]

 The man *likely* part responsible for there being hardly any sponsors on an otherwise cardboard flavour livery and helping promote absolutely zero cool appeal to what was the cool underdog team.

 

Yes. He should be promoted to team boss immediately!

[Nathan]

Sauber, sadly I doubt it.  I have a feeling the team will be bought out of administration.

 

 

Question should be - will F1 last the season?

 

 

3 billion reasons to

Edited by Nathan, 13 March 2015 - 00:20.

[William Hunt]

Lance Stroll's dad could buy it or even Van Der Garde's father in law, Marcel Boekhoorn, that's what Joe Saward (not that I trust him, arrogant prick) says.

[V8 Fireworks]

Sure why not.

 

van der Garde is a fine world karting champ who will score the proud Hinwill squad many points!     

[Nathan]

It's a tough question because Sauber in it's present state could fail, but as mentioned the team could be bought up.

[Atreiu]

Yes, Bernie will make sure of that. 

 

Because he is a loving and charitible racing fan?

[metz]

Kaltenborn has made some other bonehead decisions.

Wonder how long Peter will put up with this incompetence.

[Eff One 2002]

It really sadly does look incredibly dire for them...

[Lee Nicolle]

Question should be - will F1 last the season?

That is truly the case. 14 cars are near unsaleable. And if Fernando is not back soon that will not help either.

[Eff One 2002]

That is truly the case. 14 cars are near unsaleable. And if Fernando is not back soon that will not help either.

Yep, there's no getting away from the fact that F1 is really in very serious trouble right now. What has occured thus far this weekend has reminded us all of that, and the first race hasn't even been run yet...

Edited by Eff One 2002, 14 March 2015 - 02:11.