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[V8 Fireworks]

The qualifying gaps are unprecedented!

 

3rd place sits 1.3seconds off pole... In NASCAR 1.3 seconds off pole would be 30th place!!

 

Red Bull 3 seconds off pole...

 

Last place 6 seconds off pole...

 

There is some hope for a Ferrari/Williams battle and maybe a Red Bull/Lotus/Toro Rosso...  but over than that hard to see how the race will be little more than a fancy parade of strung out cars at huge intervals...   

[MJB5990]

They will not lap the rest of the field. They will build a pit-stop gap to third place and will then both be ordered to turn the wick down.

[ButtonForEver]

Yes and Yes, and Yes all the Season.

This F.1 is pathetic.

 

Hamilton vs. Rosberg, is the worst rivalry (EVER), unnecessary and not at all interesting, I preferred when Vettel dominated.. (meh)

Edited by ButtonForEver, 14 March 2015 - 11:17.

[LuckyStrike1]

Not much will happen in the race. Mercedes won't lap everyone though. They will build up a substantial gap and then turn the speed down to conserve the engine etc. I don't expect the fight between the MB drivers to be especially tight so their pace won't be 100 % after the initial part of the race. 

[DutchQuicksilver]

The only thing I fear is that Rosberg can't stay with Hamilton for the rest of the year. It's like someone mentioned a few days ago. Back in 2010, Webber could match Vettel, but the seasons after, he was nowhere.

 

Last year, Rosberg vs Hamilton was a close battle, but after witnessing today, if Hamilton has no issues, Rosberg is absolutely nowhere.

[PLAYLIFE]

The qualifying gaps are unprecedented!

 

 

 

Did you start watching Formula 1 a few years ago?

 

1992 British GP, Mansell qualified nearly 2 seconds quicker than his team-mate Patrese who lined up 2nd.  Senna was 3rd and nearly 3 seconds adrift...

 

Many F1 seasons had large gaps between the leaders and 'the rest'.

 

 

 

The gaps are not unprecedented, stop being so dramatic.

[itsademo]

sad to see very sad how shallow people get upset when their favourite driver is not top even worse because their hated driver is doing it large

very sad

[evocate08]

Much like last season Mercedes will pace themselves to the following cars, Formula 1 is more of an endurance race than it has ever been.  The only excitement will be if Rosberg can stay with Hamilton.

[kimster89]

Im still hoping the mercs run into some sort od tyre trouble and Kimi can give them a race for the win with possibly one less stop.

 

OTOH mercs can allways colliade themselves or run into reablity troubles.

[Clrnc]

Hoping for some drama filled race. Accidents and stuff might bring the race closer. 

[Fatgadget]

So what if it's a procession? Won't be the first time and wont stop most people waking up at stupid o'clock to witness said eh..procession!

Appears OP really has a beef about Merc dominance lol! 

[Nonesuch]

Mercedes is the clear favourite for the victory, of course, but there is plenty of rivalry up and down the field to prevent it from being a procession, at least in the first half of the race.

 

Once DRS has finished sorting everyone into their 'normal' positions it should be rather stable, as all races post-2010 tend to be.

 

There is also no reason for Mercedes to lap the entire field, even if they could. Reliability is a major concern, and they'll try to win as slowly and safely as possible.

[topical]

As the commentators like to say in such races: "there's a fascinating battle going on for 8th place." Watch and enjoy, or do the sensible thing and stay in bed.

[Donkey]

Mercedes are wise enough to know that the championship isn't won at the first race. Also that they only have 4 engines for the whole season.

 

I think after last year's shenanigans both the drivers have been made clear where the team stands regarding engine settings and the like. If Rosberg is hustling Hamilton or vice versa I'm sure they will be allowed to race equally, just not at 100% engine power.

 

I doubt it will be a procession behind them though, Ferrari look very close to Williams which is good for F1. And some of the other teams have closed the gap to 'best of the rest' quite a bit as well.

 

Although part of me secretly hopes the Mercedes boys take each other out to spice things up.

[MortenF1]

No and no. The first no; because Rosberg will not be five,six tenths a lap slower throughout the race, but most importantly there will be battles behind him, between Williams and Ferrari, between Lotus, Red Bull and STR, and between Sauber (Nasr) and the Force India's. 

The second no; Ferrari and Williams will definitely finish on the same lap as Mercedes.

[ferrarifanf1]

The qualifying gaps are unprecedented!

 

3rd place sits 1.3seconds off pole... In NASCAR 1.3 seconds off pole would be 30th place!!

 

Red Bull 3 seconds off pole...

 

Last place 6 seconds off pole...

 

There is some hope for a Ferrari/Williams battle and maybe a Red Bull/Lotus/Toro Rosso...  but over than that hard to see how the race will be little more than a fancy parade of strung out cars at huge intervals...   

 

Dont even compare NASCAR with F1 

[Lights]

Such unnecessary drama this thread. If you think it will suck so much, do some laundry instead or watch a NASCAR race.

[ferrarifanf1]

Such unnecessary drama this thread. If you think it will suck so much, do some laundry instead or watch a NASCAR race.

 

Dude i would rather think than watch a NASCAR race

[JHSingo]

Yes, and most likely yes.

 

You have to hand it to Mercedes for doing such a good job, but my word are they making F1 boring, and so utterly predictable. Like I've often said before, such dominance by one team is not good for the sport.

 

It's Schumacher/Ferrari and the early 2000s all over again, except a much greater advantage.

[Grayson]

Mercedes may be dominating, but it's a lot closer than these figures suggest:

 

Red Bull 3 seconds off pole...

 

Last place 6 seconds off pole...

 

 

Ricciardo was almost exactly 2 seconds off Pole. Kvyat wasn't in Q3, but he had a similar gap to 1st place in Q2.

 

Last place (Magnusssen) was 3.4 seconds off 1st place in Q1. And Honda have said that the engines are turned down this weekend to try to gain a bit of reliability.

[V8 Fireworks]

The gaps are not unprecedented, stop being so dramatic.

 

The gaps are unprecedented by the standards of modern motorsport!  

 

Result Driver Best lap  

1st

#22 James Courtney
Holden Racing Team 1
1:20.5396 LAP TIMES

2nd

#14 Fabian Coulthard
Freightliner Racing 1
1:20.5839 LAP TIMES

3rd

#1 Jamie Whincup
Red Bull Racing Australia 1
1:20.6024 LAP TIMES

4th

#33 Scott McLaughlin
Wilson Security Racing GRM 1
1:20.6073 LAP TIMES

5th

#99 James Moffat
Nissan Mororsport 1
1:20.6105 LAP TIMES

6th

#97 Shane Van Gisbergen
Team TEKNO Darrell Lea 1
1:20.6355 LAP TIMES

7th

#47 Tim Slade
Supercheap Auto Racing 1
1:21.1497 LAP TIMES

8th

#17 Marcos Ambrose
DJR Team Penske 1
1:21.1679 LAP TIMES

9th

#2 Garth Tander
Holden Racing Team 1
1:21.2004 LAP TIMES

10th

#8 Jason Bright
Team BOC

1
1:21.2326

 

 

 

 

Notice how the Top 6 are separated by 0.1seconds, as expected in modern motorsport. 

[V8 Fireworks]

Dont even compare NASCAR with F1 

 

Why not?  They are two highly professional race series which specify similar specifications for every vehicle.

 

As the commentators like to say in such races: "there's a fascinating battle going on for 8th place." Watch and enjoy, or do the sensible thing and stay in bed.

 

Why would one stay in bed at 4 o'clock in the afternoon ?  Some folks live in Australia.   

[ferrarifanf1]

Why not?  They are two highly professional race series which specify similar specifications for every vehicle.

 

 

 

NASCAR u go round round round round round .  F1 aint like that

[ferrarifanf1]

The gaps are unprecedented by the standards of modern motorsport!  

 

Result Driver Best lap  

1st

#22 James Courtney
Holden Racing Team 1
1:20.5396 LAP TIMES

2nd

#14 Fabian Coulthard
Freightliner Racing 1
1:20.5839 LAP TIMES

3rd

#1 Jamie Whincup
Red Bull Racing Australia 1
1:20.6024 LAP TIMES

4th

#33 Scott McLaughlin
Wilson Security Racing GRM 1
1:20.6073 LAP TIMES

5th

#99 James Moffat
Nissan Mororsport 1
1:20.6105 LAP TIMES

6th

#97 Shane Van Gisbergen
Team TEKNO Darrell Lea 1
1:20.6355 LAP TIMES

7th

#47 Tim Slade
Supercheap Auto Racing 1
1:21.1497 LAP TIMES

8th

#17 Marcos Ambrose
DJR Team Penske 1
1:21.1679 LAP TIMES

9th

#2 Garth Tander
Holden Racing Team 1
1:21.2004 LAP TIMES

10th

#8 Jason Bright
Team BOC

1
1:21.2326

 

 

 

 

Notice how the Top 6 are separated by 0.1seconds, as expected in modern motorsport. 

 

now thats why formula 1 is unique it aint like the other motorsport. 

"modern motorsport"?? really...?? as for it F1 has been like this since the start of it. and i notice Most of them are of the same teams 

Edited by ferrarifanf1, 14 March 2015 - 12:38.

[ferrarifanf1]

Now we are going off topic so better come back to the topic  

 

Guys we need to create a thread like F1 Vs other motorsports.

[hamilton10000]

Lets be honest there is always crashes and random things happening at the aus gp so it probably won't be a procession even if hamilton does dominate. There will be battles for the lower positions. Merc won't lap the field at this race or any this year.

[Scuderia312]

F1 it's not football, where a team which leads 4-0 with 5 mins to go will win, in F1 everything can happen even on the last lap. BANG and you have no points! One mistake, a lapse of concentration and you're out. It is not like that in most of the other sports. That's one thing why it's worth to watch a race from start to beginning.

[SCUDmissile]

Yes, I feel like the Mercedes will run off into the distance and if Kimi's long run on fridays is anything to go by, the Ferraris will also pull away fro the rest. Then, here may be some good battles but the top positions will be sorted unless Williams can prove they got what it takes to run with the Ferraris.

[Fatgadget]

Yes, and most likely yes.

 

You have to hand it to Mercedes for doing such a good job, but my word are they making F1 boring, and so utterly predictable. Like I've often said before, such dominance by one team is not good for the sport.

 

It's Schumacher/Ferrari and the early 2000s all over again, except a much greater advantage.

Nope! I look at it from the perspective that they (Merc) are rewriting history!...Should they win every race while everyone else is scrambling for scraps, (1)..shows that they are cleverer than anyone else. (2) they have achieved all there is to achieve and have set the bar very high indeed for anyone else to emulate! 

[crooky369]

F1, WRC and WTCC all world championships and all are going to be dominated by one team just like last year...

 

The only hope for a decent world championship is the WEC or Rallycross if that's your thing.

 

On a positive note I'll be looking out for the Ferrari vs Williams battle, Kimi vs Vettel if they really are as close as qualy suggests, the rookies at Toro Rosso look an exciting bunch, how far will Mclaren get in the race and also hopefully a battle at the front between the two Mercs.

[Risil]

Notice how the Top 6 are separated by 0.1seconds, as expected in modern motorsport. 

 

By whom? What a strange attitude.

[johnmhinds]

F1 it's not football, where a team which leads 4-0 with 5 mins to go will win, in F1 everything can happen even on the last lap. BANG and you have no points! One mistake, a lapse of concentration and you're out. It is not like that in most of the other sports. That's one thing why it's worth to watch a race from start to beginning.

 

Yeah, but the Mercedes is the least likely to go bang this year.

 

They said they used one engine for the whole of testing this winter. They did 1350 laps on one engine with nothing major failing...

[V8 Fireworks]

By whom? What a strange attitude.

 

In modern motorsport you SHOULD have a variety of high quality team all operating at a high level - and thus producing similar lap times and close racing. 

[JHSingo]

Nope! I look at it from the perspective that they (Merc) are rewriting history!...Should they win every race while everyone else is scrambling for scraps, (1)..shows that they are cleverer than anyone else. (2) they have achieved all there is to achieve and have set the bar very high indeed for anyone else to emulate! 

 

More like have spent more than anyone else.

[crooky369]

In modern motorsport you SHOULD have a variety of high quality team all operating at a high level - and thus producing similar lap times and close racing.

Maybe in a spec series or one close to a spec series but not in a relatively open championship as F1. It's means sadly there will be some poor years but that's the price that has to be paid for a bit of designer freedom.

[ninetyzero]

now thats why formula 1 is unique it aint like the other motorsport. 

"modern motorsport"?? really...?? as for it F1 has been like this since the start of it. and i notice Most of them are of the same teams 

 

The F1 grid is far closer now than is was in the old days, 1.3 seconds is huge by modern standards. merc are going to walk it...

[superden]

One year of dominant results for Mercedes and people are already moaning. Come back when they have won the WDC and WCC 4 or 5 years running. I mean, that would destroy the sport if it ever happened ...

... oh, wait.

[paulogman]

nope
merc drivers are free to race
williams and ferrari will be going after it hammer and tongs
red Bull teams are neck and neck
lotus is back
force india appear to have potential

McLaren will get quicker


all bodes well for exciting racing

[AustinF1]

There will be some real racing among Ferrari & Williams, but Merc's gonna walk away with this one.

[surbjits]

Yes, and most likely yes.

 

You have to hand it to Mercedes for doing such a good job, but my word are they making F1 boring, and so utterly predictable. Like I've often said before, such dominance by one team is not good for the sport.

 

It's Schumacher/Ferrari and the early 2000s all over again, except a much greater advantage.

At least Schumi was entertaining, controversies and all

[AustinF1]

One year of dominant results for Mercedes and people are already moaning. Come back when they have won the WDC and WCC 4 or 5 years running. I mean, that would destroy the sport if it ever happened ...

... oh, wait.

Will it destroy the sport? No.

 

Is it good for the sport? No. Not at all. I hear this argument quite often, but it seems like nobody is willing to consider the possibility that the Merc domination, as a continuation of the RBR domination, is what's bad for the sport.

 

Another year of the fans watching a manufacturer wrapping up the WCC early and then watching as the top team's two drivers fight for the WDC is not helping F1's prospects. It really doesn't matter which team is on top. What matters is the utter dominance.. Of course it's not a given that that's what will happen...but it doesn't look good right now.

Edited by AustinF1, 14 March 2015 - 18:12.

[Watkins74]

One year of dominant results for Mercedes and people are already moaning. Come back when they have won the WDC and WCC 4 or 5 years running. I mean, that would destroy the sport if it ever happened ...

... oh, wait.

 

It doesn't feel like one year because we had the same situation before but just with a different team.

 

Congratulations to Mercedes but it would be fun to have at least 2 teams at the top.

[Atreiu]

Don't be a drama queen. Comparing gaps in NASCAR and F1 is ridiculous.

 

Let's watch the race first and then think if something needs urgently to be done.

[surbjits]

In modern motorsport you SHOULD have a variety of high quality team all operating at a high level - and thus producing similar lap times and close racing. 

 

in the ideal world.

 

in reality quite the opposite

[ConsiderAndGo]

Lapping the entire field? LOL!

[P123]

The qualifying gaps are unprecedented!
 
3rd place sits 1.3seconds off pole... In NASCAR 1.3 seconds off pole would be 30th place!!
 
Red Bull 3 seconds off pole...
 
Last place 6 seconds off pole...
 
There is some hope for a Ferrari/Williams battle and maybe a Red Bull/Lotus/Toro Rosso...  but over than that hard to see how the race will be little more than a fancy parade of strung out cars at huge intervals...   

I hope you're just ignorant...... The gaps aren't 'unprecedented'. Red Bull aren't 3s off the pace. And the gap to last place is skewed somewhat by knockout qualifying. When they were all running in Q1 the gap from first to last was 3.4s. A healthy dose of perspective is required for you.

I'm looking forward to a good battle for the victory, a 4-way scrap between the Williams and Ferrari drivers, seeing if Red Bull have better race pace, the fight between Toro Rosso, Lotus and Sauber, and hoping McLaren can get some mileage. None of that leads me to believe the race will be a procession.

You may not like who is winning or who is fastest, but that's a different matter.

[P123]

At least Schumi was entertaining, controversies and all

Well, he wasn't was he. He would regularly open up a 20s lead in the first third of a race and then coast to the end maintaining the gap. Only the tyre war and Montoya added any spice.

[Jamiednm]

Ferrari, Renault, Red Bull, Honda and McLaren have made this era of F1 in to a procession by doing such a poor job.

[Jamiednm]

In modern motorsport you SHOULD have a variety of high quality team all operating at a high level - and thus producing similar lap times and close racing.

Seems Mercedes is the only 'high quality' team in F1 then.

[ATM]

Well, he wasn't was he. He would regularly open up a 20s lead in the first third of a race and then coast to the end maintaining the gap. 

Sounds a little bit like Vettel too...

 

Anyhow, due to reliability faults, I hardly see tomorrow's race predictable as a whole, from front to rear of the grid. But, unless Mercedes gremlins act up, hard to think they won't win it.