34 replies to this topic

[DannyQ]

What do you think about having the Nordschleife being on the calendar for future seasons?

 

Obviously the safety concerns would have to be addressed but if it was deemed safe to drive this generation of F1 cars then would you like to see the best drivers in the world take on the most challenging track in the world?

 

[tmekt]

I'd say equal distribution of prize money is more likely to happen than this. And that's saying a lot.

[The Kanisteri]

Long Nürbürgring is out of question for modern F1 (I personally think it's been to dangerous for F1 lifetime).

 

It's way too narrow, way too bumpy, way too dangerous, track for highspeed racing is just death trap. Hence "slow speed" touring cars and prototypes having endurance races at there. 

[Beamer]

Ah there it is! The annual nordschleife F1 threat... It's early this year...

[A3]

Ah there it is! The annual nordschleife F1 threat... It's early this year...

[ardbeg]

No way. There would be blood.

[TimRTC]

Okay so lets add in the usual extras:

 

Should F1 run the original Spa layout?

 

Could F1 run at Macau?

 

Would F1 actually run on a New Jersey road course?

 

When will F1 run on the centre of London circuit from the demo videos.

[hogstar]

Absolutely no chance. I find it hard to believe that anyone with any degree of understanding of F1 would even float the idea. 

[V8 Fireworks]

The Nurburgring GP circuit was specifically built for safe Grand Prix racing.

 

Nordschleife is a fantastic club and GT racing track.   

[johnmhinds]

The new Nurburgring owners can't afford to pay the fee to run the race on the short track, how would they hope to raise the extra money needed to bring the whole of the Nordschleife up to FIA Grade 1 status?

Edited by johnmhinds, 16 March 2015 - 12:18.

[ardbeg]

http://www.nurburgri....uk/warning.php

[noikeee]

They'd need 300 billion quadrillion euros to install modern F1-level runoff areas around the track, another 300 billion quadrillion euros to hire enough marshalls, TV crews and cameras to cover the whole track, ANOTHER 300 billion euros for access roads so that if someone does get injured he can be retrieved quickly, and in the end you'd end up with a terrible sanitized, butchered version of the best track in the world. And there wouldn't be any overtaking.

 

So, like, no.

Edited by noikeee, 16 March 2015 - 12:48.

[Gyno]

What do you think about having the Nordschleife being on the calendar for future seasons?

 

Obviously the safety concerns would have to be addressed but if it was deemed safe to drive this generation of F1 cars then would you like to see the best drivers in the world take on the most challenging track in the world?

 

That would be Isle of Man TT.

[JeePee]

Please no. I love to drive the Nordschleife in its current form. When F1 touches it, adding tarmac runoff, fake grass and useless curbstones, I might as well by a Touristenfahrt for the nearest parking lot.

Edited by JeePee, 16 March 2015 - 12:55.

[Elba]

Please no. I love to drive the Nordschleife in its current form. When F1 touches it, adding tarmac runoff, fake grass and useless curbstones, I might as well by a Touristenfahrt for the nearest parking lot.

Exactly   the track is great fun as it is now hands off please!

 

Also should be great fun for the spectators to see the cars go by only 15 times a race or so,  NOT

[Melchiot]

It would be fun to see an F1 car trying to tackle the Karusell

[William Hunt]

the Nordschleife is too dangerous for any car let alone an F1 car, no way

[Kristian]

Even if the safety concerns could be addressed (which won't happen), logistically it would be impossible - think of all the TV cameras needed, marshalls/flags on every corner, etc. Impossible. 

 

I think the closest circuit in the world that could replicate the Nordschliefe and be within the logistic needs would be the Potrero de los Funes track in Argentina. But even that would need significant investment to be F1 standard. 

Edited by Kristian, 16 March 2015 - 13:17.

[wj_gibson]

It would be interesting to see an F1 car tackle the Nordschleife in anger as a demonstration (and not the kind of demo that BMW offered back in 2007 in whihc Heidfeld was instructed to drive at deliberately low speed through most of the corners). But a race shouldn't happen. As indicated above, the absence of any access roads for significant stretches of the circuit (particularly between Bergwerk and the Karussel) is extremely problematic.

[johnmhinds]

It would be fun to see an F1 car trying to tackle the Karusell

http://www.youtube.c...h?v=TA2yYohW1Vs

[king_crud]

I thought the stupid threads were for the off season?

[Sheepmachine]

the Nordschleife is too dangerous for any car let alone an F1 car, no way

Yet WTCC is racing there

[William Hunt]

This list does not include fatal accidents of non-racing drivers, people renting the track: every year there are fatal accidents there:

http://en.wikipedia....fatal_accidents

[BRG]

This list does not include fatal accidents of non-racing drivers, people renting the track: every year there are fatal accidents there:

http://en.wikipedia....fatal_accidents

There were fatal accidents on several roads near me last week.  So what's your point exactly?

[johnmhinds]

This list does not include fatal accidents of non-racing drivers, people renting the track: every year there are fatal accidents there:

http://en.wikipedia....fatal_accidents

 

Mainly because untrained people are allowed to mess about in road cars.

 

And most of the tracks on the F1 calendar have also had fatal accidents within the last few years, that shouldn't be a reason not to race somewhere unless the track safety isn't up to spec.

[thiscocks]

That would be Isle of Man TT.

Not a purpouse built track

[AlexLangheck]

Seriously, who thinks the Nordschleife is suitable for F1??

Go on YouTube and watch, there's plenty of videos. Or try Gran Turismo or another game/ simulation.... Then come back. The current GT3 cars are getting close to the limit. A F1 or LMP1 would be insane.....

[chunder27]

Absolutely no chance, ever of F1 running race meetings on the Green Hell

 

And i would not want to see it either

 

It would mean the whole place being totally emasculated, refined, there would be gates everywhere.

 

If you have never been, you juts dont now, the place is immense, it takes half an hout to get round it on the public road.

 

Keep the race on the GP track and leave the proepr track alone

[Tsarwash]

Lets just say there are 25 broadcast trackside camera's for every F1 Race, and most of them are able to cover just a few corners at most, how many cameras would be required to adequately cover the 12 ? miles of our favourite track ? A hundred ? Would that be enough ? Probably not for the standard of coverage that we are used to these days. 

[Atreiu]

I'd rather Norisring.

[Sin]

I'm still for Sachsenring that is so close by I wouldnt even need a hotel

[Spillage]

Not possible. Even if it was safe, it's just too long. There'd be no way, for instance, that the medical car would be able to get to an incident on the far side of the track in anything like the right time. Hell, it might not even be able to follow the field around on lap 1 without them catching it up. Other problems as stated are with getting enough TV cameras and marshals to cover the whole track, which would be enormously expensive. 

 

Not to mention, it's not great for fans at the track. Right now the German GP has enough trouble attracting fans when they get to see the cars go past 67 times. How many would turn up if they only got to see the field go past 20 times?

[john ruston]

15 laps in modern GP car for GP

No chance.

Great idea

I went three times in 60's.

Old Spa was better.

[OO7]

Should F1 run the original Spa layout?

Absolutely not, it would be as boring as hell!  If the 1967 layout was used, the cars would run with a Monza spec set-up and with the exception of a slight lift off the throttle at Eau Rouge, Les Combes and Blanchimont and heavy braking for La Source, the cars would be flat out everywhere else.

[Atreiu]

I'm still for Sachsenring that is so close by I wouldnt even need a hotel

 

I love it, but it barely fits MotoGP.

I'm telling you, Norisring would be perfect. Short, intense, fans would see a lot of the action, navigating traffic would be insane. It would be a total deviation from anything we have had in ages.