138 replies to this topic

[Christophe77]

When can we expect McLaren-Honda's 1st victory of the 'new era'?

[brr]

Depends whether there is a "worst team with two world champion drivers" prize.

[Jejking]

Depends whether there is a "worst team with two world champion drivers" prize.

That's harsh.

[MikeV1987]

2016 at the very least.

[shonguiz]

When chickens will have teeth.

Edited by shonguiz, 19 March 2015 - 18:25.

[TomNokoe]

Never

[Jejking]

When chickens will have teeths.

http://www.scientifi...ken-grows-alli/

 

But they didn't win in 2006. Where did it go so wrong?

[Lemans]

This thread will be interesting to visit in a year from now.

[Lemans]

When chickens will have teeths.

 

'Teeth' not 'teeths'. It is already plural. Drop the 's'.

[Maustinsj]

When people understand that the plural of chicken is "chicken".

[Lemans]

When people understand that the plural of chicken is "chicken".

 

Nice catch. I missed that one.

His entire sentence is bad, actually.

[Maustinsj]

No tinternet points deducted, though as he is likely not a native speaker.

[AustinF1]

2016. 

 

Early, and often.

[mclarensmps]

Somewhere towards the start of the European races in 2016 I think. 

[Spillage]

First thought when I read the title was Brazil 1988. Then I read the small-print 

 

It is very hard to say. I don't think it'll be this season, and to be honest, I'm not convinced it'll be next season either. Though I think they'll get there, I'm not sure that either Button or Alonso will be driving the car to take the first victory, whenever it comes.

[JAW97]

No tinternet points deducted, though as he is likely not a native speaker.

Watch that comma.

Meh, can't see it this year. Next year the engine should be much better but I'd expect them to still be at a deficit to Mercedes and Ferrari. 2017 is possible, but it depends on whether Alonso is still as good and motivated then as he is now. I think Button will be gone by then.

Edited by JAW97, 19 March 2015 - 18:05.

[shonguiz]

http://www.scientifi...ken-grows-alli/

 

But they didn't win in 2006. Where did it go so wrong?

 

Haha, well you learn something new everyday.

'Teeth' not 'teeths'. It is already plural. Drop the 's'.

Will do sir.

[DaddyCool]

Barring some funky FIA mid- or postseason rule change, I'm gonna stand by my opinion that they won't win a race on merit in 2015 or 16.

 

I'm not gonna be popular with this, but I think the "McLaren-Honda is a Merc beater in the long run" is just wishful thinking from Alonso and Button fans.

[Heasven]

So you are saying my pre-testing prediction of Fernando winning in Malaysia is out of the question ??

[Tourgott]

2017 if there are new rules.

And if they are still in F1.

And if F1 still exists.

[ollebompa]

Honda will pull out before that happens. Honda haven't been at the forefront for 25 years and I don't think they have what it takes.

[Peter Perfect]

I'm hoping for one in 2016 once they've got the PU issues sorted but only then if it's a freak race.

 

For 2015 McLaren chances of winning are probably about the same as everyone else's bar Mercedes.

[BRG]

This time last year, no one expected Red Bull Renault to win any races.......

[brr]

This time last year, no one expected Red Bull Renault to win any races.......

 

Same goes for this time this year.

[AlexS]

If rules don't change and on merit 2017.

[Lights]

Not until 2017. And they need rain.

[goingthedistance]

By the end of this season.   

[Emilvang]

This time last year, no one expected Red Bull Renault to win any races.......

 

Red Bull wasn't dead last getting lapped TWICE in Melbourne, so not really an ideal comparison..

[trogggy]

When people understand that the plural of chicken is "chicken".

But it aren't.

[Risil]

Spa this year. Cos I'm an optimist, and mostly because I'm nostalgic for 2004.

Edited by Risil, 19 March 2015 - 20:02.

[DinosaursRoarForHugs]

The plural of chicken is chicken?

[ninetyzero]

If they are scoring regular points and the odd podium by the end of this year then they are doing well. Wins will come at some point in 2016.

[ANF]

At the 2016 Monaco Grand Prix.

[John Player]

2017

[RealRacing]

Whenever they decide to lobby strongly enough to have some seasons custom-made for their strengths.

[mclarensmps]

Whenever they decide to lobby strongly enough to have some seasons custom-made for their strengths.

What strengths? 

[F1 Mike]

"don't count your chicken before they're hatched"

 

I think not!

 

the plural of chicken is definitely chickens

 

they are not sheep

[RealRacing]

What strengths? 

Unless they manage to make it a spec series where the drivers can make the difference, I don't see any either...

[noikeee]

I'm gonna vote '17 and that's assuming they actually bounce back at all. Okay the engine's not close running at 100% but Melbourne was amazing. Qualified last on merit, ended last on merit. Jesus.

 

In hindsight, they've spent the last 2 years, in which they had proper engines, without any podiums (nevermind wins) at all except for that one freak race in Melbourne last year with Magnussen and Button 2nd and 3rd. Okay that surely was a freak patch below their "normal" level, but it proves they're hardly guaranteed to do well and design good cars.

[Elba]

2016 and I don't expect Ronzo to be around anymore by that time to sip the champagne. 

[Nonesuch]

Who knows! McLaren and Honda seem to be in quite the tough spot at the moment. It's never a good idea to count such big constructors out completely, but at the same time neither of them have had a lot of recent success to back up some of the wild predictions that are making the rounds.

 

I would be highly surprised if they can even get a podium somewhere. I mean, even Ferrari got only two last year, and that car was just average, not downright terrible like the McLaren-Honda seems to be in its current configuration. In any case, I do hope they will be competitive sooner rather than later. They have two great drivers, and it'd be a shame to see those guys sidelined and unable to fight for victories for another season or two.

Edited by Nonesuch, 19 March 2015 - 21:35.

[OSX]

Sooner rather than later. Sooner being 2016.

 

[Ducks]

If it comes it wont be Fernando or Jenson enjoying it, I mean this will probably be JBs final season and Alonso will jump ship after a year or two of driving this dog engine.

[Hollow]

Correcting people can easily become an embarrassing experience - that's what I've learned reading this thread.

[Maustinsj]

"don't count your chicken before they're hatched"

I think not!

the plural of chicken is definitely chickens

they are not sheep

It is like oxen, though. Check the etymology.

[DinosaursRoarForHugs]

I had to look up the plural of chicken. I'm 22. I do a languages degree. Thank you forums.

 

Go MooClaren!

[Maustinsj]

I had to look up the plural of chicken. I'm 22. I do a languages degree. Thank you forums.

Go MooClaren!

Then my work here is done! ;-)

[DinosaursRoarForHugs]

It is like oxen, though. Check the etymology.

 

It's listed everywhere as chickens. Etymology or no etymology.

 

[BillBald]

It is like oxen, though. Check the etymology.

 

Pretty sure that oxen is the plural of ox.

[Maustinsj]

Of course, I could be wrong. However, if I've learned anything from this forum, it's to vehemently defend your position and yell conspiracy to all who disagree.