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The German GP conundrum is perfect situation to experiment with non-GPs.


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#1 Atreiu

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Posted 20 March 2015 - 14:21

As long as the hosting fee were drastically cut and all measures taken to fill the stands and promote a weekend of incredible racing and action.

 

For example, friday should basically be an unofficial testing day with two cars per team. Keep the track open for F1 between 10am and 3pm and slot in as much support activity as possible before and afterwards. DTM, Porsche, etc. Then do the same thing on Saturday between 10am and 1pm and then make qualifying a 30 minute banzai session with everyone sharing the track. At last, on Saunday, have a reversed grids race. Just try it and see what happens. Nobody will lose points and suddenly it can work or simply allow insight for better racing solutions. And engines used during the weekend do not count for regular seaosn allocation.

 

End of, Germany has F1, the fans should have fun, teams can do development work, etc.


Edited by Atreiu, 20 March 2015 - 14:32.


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#2 noikeee

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Posted 20 March 2015 - 14:29

Non-GPs are a thing of the past and aren't coming back. It wouldn't pay enough for (most of) the teams to want to enter, it would be a nightmare to agree TV deals with such short notice, and there could even be a contractual breaches if the teams enter it. It's a nice hypothetical idea but not practical.



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Posted 20 March 2015 - 14:31

Too expensive, too likely to lead to a butchered circuit and just too much hassle.

#4 Atreiu

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Posted 20 March 2015 - 14:35

It could be all the same for TVs, show the race and as much as the rest of the action as possible or agreed upon initially.

 

Obviously the short notice doesn't help, 2015 must be a lost cause by now, but at least they can plan something for 2016.



#5 ConsiderAndGo

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Posted 20 March 2015 - 14:36

Never going to happen. Next?



#6 chunder27

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Posted 20 March 2015 - 14:39

The sad thing is, it is a good idea

 

If people were not so utterly sefl obsessed and interested in their own finanancial gain, you could make every GP the pinnacle of a week long fesitval of motorsport, where people camped, the local economy boomed and tehns of thousands of peple came along.

 

At Hockenheim you cdould build a motocross trac, host a US invitvation drag racing event, have a truck race, have a DTM round, have some bike racing somewhere.

 

It's all there, but each individual berk has to get THEIR hands on each indivisual bit of a tiny pie adn try and sell it to tv companies that wll never get the figures they want from it.

 

Its pathetic, all you need is someone with some balls to take motorsport by the scruff and you could do so this easily



#7 SenorSjon

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Posted 20 March 2015 - 15:06

We should call it testing...



#8 Atreiu

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Posted 20 March 2015 - 15:49

We should call it testing...

 

Indeed, and it sounds much better than a lonely week in the Spanish winter or Bahranian desert.



#9 ExFlagMan

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Posted 20 March 2015 - 15:52

I would foresee a sudden outbreak of 'Metalworkers Strikes' in Italy.

#10 Fastcake

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Posted 20 March 2015 - 15:53

Non-GPs are a thing of the past and aren't coming back. It wouldn't pay enough for (most of) the teams to want to enter, it would be a nightmare to agree TV deals with such short notice, and there could even be a contractual breaches if the teams enter it. It's a nice hypothetical idea but not practical.

 

Agreed. Non-championship races were already outdated by the eighties - in the modern day with commercial contracts and TV deals it's practically impossible to hold them. The teams can't just rock up and start racing at a weeks notice any more.



#11 SanDiegoGo

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Posted 20 March 2015 - 16:44

Bernie says....... NO! :wave:



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Posted 20 March 2015 - 17:00

The sad thing is, it is a good idea
 
If people were not so utterly sefl obsessed and interested in their own finanancial gain, you could make every GP the pinnacle of a week long fesitval of motorsport, where people camped, the local economy boomed and tehns of thousands of peple came along.
 
At Hockenheim you cdould build a motocross trac, host a US invitvation drag racing event, have a truck race, have a DTM round, have some bike racing somewhere.
 
It's all there, but each individual berk has to get THEIR hands on each indivisual bit of a tiny pie adn try and sell it to tv companies that wll never get the figures they want from it.
 
Its pathetic, all you need is someone with some balls to take motorsport by the scruff and you could do so this easily


When I went to the Adelaide grand prix in 93 they had a full days of racing, every day. They even did drag racing on the back straight until well into the evening on the Saturday.

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Posted 20 March 2015 - 18:27

What's the point? If you want to randomly change long-held rules for championship Grands Prix, you can do it. Look at Abu Dhabi last year.


Edited by Risil, 20 March 2015 - 18:27.


#14 AustinF1

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Posted 20 March 2015 - 18:32

It would devalue a points-paying GP in the eyes of the promoter/venue. No way Bernie would do it.



#15 AustinF1

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Posted 20 March 2015 - 18:34

When I went to the Adelaide grand prix in 93 they had a full days of racing, every day. They even did drag racing on the back straight until well into the evening on the Saturday.

Melbourne puts on an unbelievable show now, too, in terms of on-track racing action. F1 & all its sessions, 4 V8SC races and associated sessions, historics, and other support races.



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Posted 20 March 2015 - 18:41

As long as the hosting fee were drastically cut and all measures taken to fill the stands and promote a weekend of incredible racing and action.

 

For example, friday should basically be an unofficial testing day with two cars per team. Keep the track open for F1 between 10am and 3pm and slot in as much support activity as possible before and afterwards. DTM, Porsche, etc. Then do the same thing on Saturday between 10am and 1pm and then make qualifying a 30 minute banzai session with everyone sharing the track. At last, on Saunday, have a reversed grids race. Just try it and see what happens. Nobody will lose points and suddenly it can work or simply allow insight for better racing solutions. And engines used during the weekend do not count for regular seaosn allocation.

 

End of, Germany has F1, the fans should have fun, teams can do development work, etc.

 

On 4 engines a season, I think some of the teams will be happy to have one less race.



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Posted 20 March 2015 - 19:52

You could surely still have a German GP, it just wouldn't be for F1 cars......

It would be similar to when the WRC had rotation; events that had been dropped still ran, but with few of the stars turning up.
Run a 90 min DTM, or GT race, with Rosberg/ Hamilton guest driving the Mercedes cars entered..... Or make it a single seater race, any formula you like.
Obviously, I'm only half serious.....