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[Lamag]

Can anyone translate this? Is an article from Leo Turrini and it looks like both Ferrari drivers expect to be able to beat Mercedes a couple of times by mid season or something like that. 

 

I dont know because the Google translator was terrible.

http://blog.quotidia...giungla-malese/

[Lemans]

Yup:

"Anzi, Seb e Kimi sono convinti che nella seconda metà del campionato riusciranno a battere la Mercedes. E forse più di una volta."

 

Translated: Seb and Kimi are convinced that they'll be able to beat Mercedes in the second half of the season. Maybe more then just once.

[RubberKubrick]

I wouldn't wonder.

For me, it was always crystal clear they would be able to beat them by merit or maybe be championship material...

[SHODAN]

 

Maybe more then just once.

 

 

 

 

 

Championship winning thinking right there.

 

But honestly, I'm not convinced they will. Not on merit.

[superden]

That's confidence for you.

[four1]

Can anyone translate this? Is an article from Leo Turrini and it looks like both Ferrari drivers expect to be able to beat Mercedes a couple of times by mid season or something like that. 
 
I dont know because the Google translator was terrible.
http://blog.quotidia...giungla-malese/

With all due respect, why would you create a new thread with a sensational title/statement and then ask for an accurate translation of what you found in the blog? Then, to top it off, you get another poster who didn't read the thread topic correctly and replies, "Yup" while at the same time referring his translation to the second half of the season.

 

The blog by Turrini stated nothing new. In summary he wrote that Ferrari is eager to find out if the good performance against Williams was track-dependent and a dry Malaysia track would verify this. He also wrote that both Kimi and Seb expect to win a race or two in the second half of the season and that for the upcoming race they are displaying more optimism than the Ferrari engineers. Finally he wrote that Marchionne was satisfied the Sunday night after the Australian GP but he was quite bothered about Kimi's retirement. The rest is just poking some fun that Arrivabene was drinking water at this dinner but that he might break his abstinence from drinking alcohol should Ferrari win a race or two this year.

[Lamag]

With all due respect, why would you create a new thread with a sensational title/statement and then ask for an accurate translation of what you found in the blog?

 

With all due respect, do you have any problem with that?

[Atreiu]

It's possible. There could pull a Force India 2009 and be extremely competitive at Spa and Monza.

 

With the WCC and WDC realistically out of the reach, it would make perfect sense to work harder in developping low drag packages for those two GPs. Even a single win would go a long way into helping their rebuilding process.

[TomNokoe]

Vettel at Monza. Ooft.

[JHSingo]

Well, you have to admire their optimism...

[MikeV1987]

Good on them, Ferrari has the right to be confident and should be aiming high. We all thought the car was going to be junk this year but it turned out pretty good, now it is time to make the next step.

[LORDBYRON]

It's a glorified way of saying our car is better at some races infact all cars are like that its a non story 

[charly0418]

Doubt it very much

[GoldenColt]

Translated: Seb and Kimi are convinced that they'll be able to beat Mercedes in the second half of the season. Maybe more then just once.

 

[AustinF1]

 

 

 

 

Championship winning thinking right there.

 

But honestly, I'm not convinced they will. Not on merit.

 

Me neither.

[Lemans]

Where are the members of the perpetually outraged 'Hype' Brigade? Shouldn't you guys be in here losing your **** over these comments?

Edited by Lemans, 23 March 2015 - 19:58.

[four1]

With all due respect, do you have any problem with that?

No problem. It does clutter up the board as it could have been appropriately posted in the existing Ferrari thread, although it wouldn't have had the same sensationalism impact there.

However, I'm not a forum moderator but you should at least change the topic title to reflect more accurately what was written. As it stands right now, it's false.

Edited by four1, 23 March 2015 - 20:17.

[tmekt]

Kimi at Spa? One can dream, right?

[MikeV1987]

Kimi winning at Spa, then Vettel winning at Monza     at least i can dream..

Edited by MikeV1987, 23 March 2015 - 20:03.

[RubberKubrick]

Good on them, Ferrari has the right to be confident and should be aiming high. We all thought the car was going to be junk this year but it turned out pretty good, now it is time to make the next step.

Yeah well, not quite...

[MikeV1987]

Well it was the general consensus at least.

[DrF]

Kimi at Spa? One can dream, right?

That's a bet worth making.

[03011969]

Given the McLaren thread is full of people, perhaps rightly, convinced McLaren's performance in Melbourne is a sure-fire sign of imminent success, and Ferrari finishing, er, a few places (and laps) ahead of the Woking Warriers, it seems far from unreasonable to believe Ferrari could snatch a win or two.  Of course, if Mercedes don;t suffer the reliability issues of 2014 and their drivers make few mistakes this is far from a given, but they seem better placed tham most - even the soon-to-be-awesome McLaren!

[sopa]

Yup:

"Anzi, Seb e Kimi sono convinti che nella seconda metà del campionato riusciranno a battere la Mercedes. E forse più di una volta."

 

Translated: Seb and Kimi are convinced that they'll be able to beat Mercedes in the second half of the season. Maybe more then just once.

 

More than once? Well yeah, Ricciardo won three times last year with the help of Mercedes mishaps, so that's possible!

[showtime]

I guess they are expecting to get those wins on merit otherwise they wouldn't be pointing to the second half of the season. Good luck with that.

[josepatches]

Given the McLaren thread is full of people, perhaps rightly, convinced McLaren's performance in Melbourne is a sure-fire sign of imminent success, and Ferrari finishing, er, a few places (and laps) ahead of the Woking Warriers, it seems far from unreasonable to believe Ferrari could snatch a win or two.  Of course, if Mercedes don;t suffer the reliability issues of 2014 and their drivers make few mistakes this is far from a given, but they seem better placed tham most - even the soon-to-be-awesome McLaren!

 

This

[Frankbullitt]

I have no doubt that Ferrari will improve.

 

But so will Merc, its not like this is just the only iteration of the car, with no updates or progress to be made.

[ForzaGTR]

Not a chance

 

https://www.youtube....IBZuqtsEpE&t=47

[showtime]

This

 

 

Given the McLaren thread is full of people, perhaps rightly, convinced McLaren's performance in Melbourne is a sure-fire sign of imminent success, and Ferrari finishing, er, a few places (and laps) ahead of the Woking Warriers, it seems far from unreasonable to believe Ferrari could snatch a win or two.  Of course, if Mercedes don;t suffer the reliability issues of 2014 and their drivers make few mistakes this is far from a given, but they seem better placed tham most - even the soon-to-be-awesome McLaren!

 

Do you have any opinion on your own or do you always rely on what some people post on McLaren thread to figure out Ferrari's chances?

[shonguiz]

Where are the members of the perpetually outraged 'Hype' Brigade? Shouldn't you guys be in here losing your **** over these comments?

Wah, you are really the sensitive type, aren't you. Ok if that pleases you then i **** on these comments.

[AlexS]

They will probably be theat in race they were good last year: Monaco for example.

[bonjon1979a]

I could see it happening. Could be track specific, tyre specific. We're yet to see the cars on the super softs or hards yet. Pirelli need to,get racier with tyre allocation. Last race was crying out for super soft and soft.

[Lemans]

Wah, you are really the sensitive type, aren't you. Ok if that pleases you then i **** on these comments.

 

Nah. I just like having a go at these 'types'. 

Speaking of being "sensitive", I find it Interesting you think my post was directed at you.

[Kulturen]

I think what's more interesting thing in this comments is if they trully believe this, they know something we don't about what's coming. That could mean a number of things

 

In any case, it'd be interesting to look back later in the season at these statements.

[Rasputin]

[rmpugh]

I could see it happening. Could be track specific, tyre specific. We're yet to see the cars on the super softs or hards yet. Pirelli need to,get racier with tyre allocation. Last race was crying out for super soft and soft.

 

 

Personally, I see McLaren beating Ferrari on merit as being more likely. 

[bonjon1979a]

Personally, I see McLaren beating Ferrari on merit as being more likely.

i don't.

[ConsiderAndGo]

[RubberKubrick]

I made a 1998 analogy.

And so I wouldn't wonder, if, in one of the coming three GP-weekends, the SF15T experience an Argentina1998-esque (or EDIT: Shanghai2009-ish) win (meaning a 1-3 finish or even dominant 1-2 finish respectively) like the F300 or RB5 achieved in the early stadium of the season where one other team was actually respectively clearly better (McLaren-Mercedes / Brawn)...

I know I know, every situation is different, but I freaking love drawing parallels between certain situations.

Edited by RubberKubrick, 23 March 2015 - 21:15.

[rmpugh]

i don't.

 

Both scenario's are pretty unlikely. However, McLaren have an engine at roughly 40%. So, they have a huge gain to make just by turning the engine up. Ferrari don't have such a gain. How you expect them to suddenly gain the couple of seconds needed to beat Mercedes without any such switch, I don't know. 

[ConsiderAndGo]

Both scenario's are pretty unlikely. However, McLaren have an engine at roughly 40%. So, they have a huge gain to make just by turning the engine up. Ferrari don't have such a gain. How you expect them to suddenly gain the couple of seconds needed to beat Mercedes without any such switch, I don't know. 

 

Except nothing suggests they are remotely close to getting anywhere near what its apparently capable of.

 

So no, Mclaren don't have a switch. (At least a reliable one).

[Jon83]

Let's be honest here, Mercedes won at an absolute canter last weekend.

 

For Ferrari to win races, they'll need the Mercedes drivers to trip over themselves or have poor reliability.

 

In normal conditions, this Merc is unbeatable, especially with Hamilton in this kind of form. 

[Ar558]

The only way this is true is if the engine was turned down in melbourne for some reason? But there is no evidence of that...

[tmekt]

Maybe the chassis is seriously underdeveloped due to them concentrating on the PU during off-season?

[Ducks]

TBH there is more chance of Rosberg winning the 2015 title.

[pdac]

Ferrari have had a tough few years. The new management wants to boost moral. They have a much better looking car this year, so why not play it up a bit and get everyone in the team enthusiastic. If they can get everyone working as a team then a lot is possible.

[Seanspeed]

I think what's more interesting thing in this comments is if they trully believe this, they know something we don't about what's coming. That could mean a number of things
 
In any case, it'd be interesting to look back later in the season at these statements.

Look back at what, exactly?

Quotes are being taken out of context here. Thread title is inaccurate as has been pointed out already.

[RainyAfterlifeDaylight]

I think nobody has said something like that except Leo Turrini. Well, Leo Turrini always insists he is in touch with Ferrari but I know he is in touch just with himself and his imagination. Please don't take that Leo Turrini very serious.

Edited by RYARLE, 23 March 2015 - 22:10.

[wrcva]

These guys are internally in the know, maybe they have a reason to say so...  

[F1ultimate]

Over a race distance the gap to Merc is 30-40 seconds. I don't think they will close that by mid season. Mercedes have more in the bag and will continue to improve.