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Top F1 Teams have too much power - Fernley


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#1 FullThrottleF1

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Posted 25 March 2015 - 15:47

Force India boss, Bob Fernley explains what he feels is the problem with F1: http://www.motorspor...h-power-fernley



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#2 Lazy

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Posted 25 March 2015 - 16:59

Yup



#3 sabjit

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Posted 25 March 2015 - 17:01

Bernie



#4 Lazy

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Posted 25 March 2015 - 17:03

And CVC takes out too much cash.

 

http://www.theguardi...claren-red-bull

 

“What’s going on? Bernie Ecclestone has done a phenomenal job for [owners] CVC but somebody needs to step in because of the dire state the middle and bottom of the grid is in. You can’t have a race with just four big teams. I’m unhappy with the governance from the FIA.”



#5 Scuderia312

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Posted 25 March 2015 - 17:15

Agree.



#6 Jon83

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Posted 25 March 2015 - 17:31

Same in most sports surely?



#7 johnmhinds

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Posted 25 March 2015 - 17:40

Same in most sports surely?

 

Nope?

 

Man U, Liverpool and Chelsea don't get to decide the rules for football and give no votes on those rules to other teams.

 

Ronnie O'Sullivan doesn't get to make up new rules for snooker so that people can only be competitive with his brand of of snooker cue.

 

etc...


Edited by johnmhinds, 25 March 2015 - 17:43.


#8 Afterburner

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Posted 25 March 2015 - 17:51

Kind of an NSS moment, honestly.

#9 nosecone

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Posted 25 March 2015 - 17:59

Literally



#10 TomNokoe

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Posted 25 March 2015 - 18:25

I always knew Mercedes had more horses than the rest!!

#11 Fastcake

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Posted 25 March 2015 - 18:34

Indeed. Just about everybody knows F1 is in deep trouble, and nobody seems to be doing anything about it.



#12 Ferrari2183

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Posted 25 March 2015 - 18:35

Nope?

Man U, Liverpool and Chelsea don't get to decide the rules for football and give no votes on those rules to other teams.

Ronnie O'Sullivan doesn't get to make up new rules for snooker so that people can only be competitive with his brand of of snooker cue.

etc...

Yeah, the FIA selling the teams regulatory rights for a quick buck was a huge mistake.

#13 Watkins74

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Posted 25 March 2015 - 18:41

An insider blames the top 4 teams overpowering the Strategy Group and typical reaction occurs. It can't be that my beloved team is part of the problem, let's blame Bernie. 



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Posted 25 March 2015 - 18:46

Nope?

Man U, Liverpool and Chelsea don't get to decide the rules for football and give no votes on those rules to other teams.

Ronnie O'Sullivan doesn't get to make up new rules for snooker so that people can only be competitive with his brand of of snooker cue.

etc...


Similarly, the FA don't just throw historical bonuses at teams either or any of that nonsense. In fact the Premier League gives relegated teams parachute payments so they can fulfil their players contracts even though the prize money and TV money in the Championship is so much less. Imagine that, helping struggling teams instead of letting them go to the wall whilst the big teams get richer and richer.

Edited by Burai, 25 March 2015 - 18:49.


#15 shonguiz

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Posted 25 March 2015 - 18:46

News of the century.



#16 P123

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Posted 25 March 2015 - 18:56

An insider blames the top 4 teams overpowering the Strategy Group and typical reaction occurs. It can't be that my beloved team is part of the problem, let's blame Bernie.


They are part of the problem. And Bernie. And CVC.

#17 superden

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Posted 25 March 2015 - 19:29

Yep. It's broken.

#18 TheCaptain

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Posted 25 March 2015 - 19:43

Similarly, the FA don't just throw historical bonuses at teams either or any of that nonsense. In fact the Premier League gives relegated teams parachute payments so they can fulfil their players contracts even though the prize money and TV money in the Championship is so much less. Imagine that, helping struggling teams instead of letting them go to the wall whilst the big teams get richer and richer.

 

It depends on how you look at it.    The Premier League clubs did break away from the rest of the league and if you look at the gulf of money between the Premier League and the Championship you can see that some teams do over reach themselves trying to compete and ultimately fail (see Portsmouth).    Likewise the Champions League is a result of the big teams getting together and forcing through rules for a new a competition that would pretty much guarantee them entry and a share of the riches there allowing themselves to get richer than their local competition.    

 

Still at least the distribution of TV money in the Premier League is far fairer compared to in places like Spain where the clubs negotiate their own TV deals leading to Barcelona and Real Madrid being so far ahead of competition in revenues and the have nots living off scraps.      Throw in a loyalty payment from the government (or buying a training ground at a hugely exorbitant rate) and I give you Real Ferrari...



#19 paulogman

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Posted 25 March 2015 - 19:45

just more whining,
same as Horner.
couple seasons ago williams was seen as a dying team on their way out of F1.
they took their lumps rebuilt their team, focused on supplementing their income and now are a viable operation that are very close to the top teams in performance.

so for every whiner there is a professional team getting their heads down and doing what needs to be done.

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#20 polesetter1

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Posted 26 March 2015 - 09:51

Formula Student rules with bigger engines! "Buy any engine up to 5,000 $ and build your car around it!"