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[FullThrottleF1]

Couple of interesting comments from Arrivabene to Autosport:

 

 

 

We have to do our best to make Formula 1 a bit more affordable ... I have to say it is a work in progress at the moment and everybody - they are really committed

 

Although he feels the core car plan is not the best way forward:

 

 

 

Standardisation in certain parts of the car could be an interesting cost saving way. Of course, not in all of the parts in the car. We are Formula 1, not another series where all the cars look the same and there is no spectacle

 

[ExFlagMan]

Check out the date

[Atreiu]

What I liked the most form the interview is:

 

"I really don't trust a one-man show; it doesn't exist".

 

As for affordable, it's easier said than done. Does anyone know how Ferraris budget is split, for example? PU expenses, chassis, logistics, etc?

[ViMaMo]

How about everyone starts off with the same car? As they win, they get more money and upgrade like in video gamez, FIA can supply the parts. Im going crazy.....

[uffen]

He's saying the same thing a hundred people have already said. Nothing new here.

[superden]

Didn't they just up their budget by €100 million?

[tmekt]

Check out the date

You know, despite the date, not every news story is a joke. What makes you think this one is? The joke part is certainly missing, at least.

[ExFlagMan]

You know, despite the date, not every news story is a joke. What makes you think this one is? The joke part is certainly missing, at least.

Perhaps the fact that last week it was announce that Ferrari were increasing their racing budget from €270 to €370 million. Does not seem to correlate with reducing costs, or maybe they are getting in the increase so that they can appear to 'reduce' their spending without it having any negative effects.

[tmekt]

Perhaps the fact that last week it was announce that Ferrari were increasing their racing budget from €270 to €370 million. Does not seem to correlate with reducing costs, or maybe they are getting in the increase so that they can appear to 'reduce' their spending without it having any negative effects.

Or maybe that's precisely why they're pushing this. They realized that they can't win without putting enormous amounts of money into the development which I'm sure they don't like.

Businesses usually like to make money instead of losing all of it, after all.

[Ferrari_F1_fan_2001]

Customer cars is the way forward

[garagetinkerer]

What I liked the most form the interview is:

 

"I really don't trust a one-man show; it doesn't exist".

 

As for affordable, it's easier said than done. Does anyone know how Ferraris budget is split, for example? PU expenses, chassis, logistics, etc?

LOL, last year both RBR and Ferrari were cringing about Mercedes money... so there. How many times have you heard RBR or Ferrari cringe about budgets? This was the first time iirc.

[V8 Fireworks]

Yes, Ferrari should set an example by returning their 100m "historic" payment so it can be distributed to Marussia, Sauber, etc.  

 

It's a good thought anyhow.  It has to start with making it cheaper to be competitive, like in Indycar where nearly the whole field is within 1.5 sec despite a disparity of budgets and driver talents etc.

[ch103]

What people say and what people do, are two different things.

[Norm]

What people say and what people do, are two different things.

 

Arrivabene has spent his entire career wearing a mask. I wouldn't trust an x tobacco man as far as I could throw him.

[Atreiu]

Does anyone know how the budget of the top teams is actually spent?

[MikeV1987]

Meanwhile they throw another 100m into the budget 

[garagetinkerer]

Does anyone know how the budget of the top teams is actually spent?

https://infogr.am/te...t-and-employees

I found this... it actually shows that Mercedes spent less.  A lot of creative accounting goes on. So their engine spend may have been written off elsewhere, may be in AMG division or whatever.

 

edit:

On the othr hand, this post suggests RBR didn't spend as much as everyone may have been thinking.

http://www.forbes.co...on-formula-one/

Edited by garagetinkerer, 01 April 2015 - 16:57.

[Lemans]

And here I was thinking he was talking about ticket prices. Silly me!

[shonguiz]

April fool.

[AlexLangheck]

He's saying the same thing a hundred people have already said. Nothing new here.

They all say it - but nobody wants to do anything about it.

[pup]

 

We have to do our best to make Formula 1 a bit more affordable profitable.

 

Fixed that for you, Maury.  As always, they're focusing attention to the wrong side of the equation.

 

Of course, the income side is 90% Bernie, and no one dares say that Bernie sucks at his job.

[Paco]

Lol. Ferrari complaining about costs. Love how he doesn't state how to and where costs can be saved.. from a team making money off its engines, making money from helping haas, freebie payment from bernie.. yadda yadda. How about laying out a plan where 100s of millions can be saved? If your spending over 400m dollars, surely they can suggest how to saved 200m so smaller teams have a real chance at comparative budgets.. Well, they can't because it's not possible to implement without it being a spec series.. We had cheap engines and they ruined So what now, standard wings.. standard tub.. what would make them a manufacturer?

[Paco]

So tired of people saying costs are to high without anyone stating how to fix it. Stating the obvious is just stupid. Offer real 10-100s of million saving solutions. Changing from old engines to these horrib le pu did nothing to save costs and only made it worse Parc ferme after qualifying didn't help. Reduced testing in season didn't help. Long life engines, didn't help. If anything, all this long life no testing is making it worse and more expensive.

[ninetyzero]

If there's one team with the nerve to say that F1 should be cheaper whilst dumping an extra 100mil on their budget, it's Ferrari. Unbelievable...

[Elba]

Lol. Ferrari complaining about costs. Love how he doesn't state how to and where costs can be saved.. from a team making money off its engines, making money from helping haas, freebie payment from bernie.. yadda yadda. 

LOL where do you see Ferrari complaining about costs?

Read the article and don't let your prejudice cloud what is actually written/said 

 

Whilst very out of character the red team seems to have the interest of the sport in mind a little bit.

Surely there will be an angle of self-interest somewhere but overall I see his comments as positive

[V666]

I should be a millionaire but I'm not, F1 is and will always be massively expensive.

[garagetinkerer]

LOL where do you see Ferrari complaining about costs?

Read the article and don't let your prejudice cloud what is actually written/said 

 

Whilst very out of character the red team seems to have the interest of the sport in mind a little bit.

Surely there will be an angle of self-interest somewhere but overall I see his comments as positive

What do zem Itahliyans care abut eff1 for? They've only been there like since F1 started, so why would Ferrari care about F1's viability, its image? /sarcasm

[loki]

Yes, Ferrari should set an example by returning their 100m "historic" payment so it can be distributed to Marussia, Sauber, etc.  

 

It's a good thought anyhow.  It has to start with making it cheaper to be competitive, like in Indycar where nearly the whole field is within 1.5 sec despite a disparity of budgets and driver talents etc.

He doesn't want to give them more prize money, he wants to sell them parts.  It's just the latest in the customer car/standardized parts push.