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F1 would thrive with 20 Mercedes engines:: Lauda

Started by LORDBYRON , Apr 11 2015 23:40

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#1 LORDBYRON

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Posted 11 April 2015 - 23:40

Niki Lauda has lashed out at Mercedes' struggling engine rivals, daring them to quit formula one.

Good on him for telling it as it his it would be a return o the good old days

http://www.gptoday.c...Formula 1 News)

#2 JHSingo

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Posted 12 April 2015 - 00:17

No it bloody well wouldn't.

And there was me thinking Bernie had won 'stupidest comment of the year' already. :rolleyes:

#3 johnmhinds

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Posted 12 April 2015 - 00:32

Niki Lauda has lashed out at Mercedes' struggling engine rivals, daring them to quit formula one.

Good on him for telling it as it his it would be a return o the good old days

http://www.gptoday.c...Formula 1 News)

What do you mean by a return to the good old days?

#4 aditya-now

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Posted 12 April 2015 - 00:35

No it bloody well wouldn't.

And there was me thinking Bernie had won 'stupidest comment of the year' already.

Had exactly the same inkling. Niki is becoming more and more like Bernie. One stupid uttering after the other, lately. And that's coming from an Austrian fan of Niki Lauda since 1971.

#5 johnmhinds

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Posted 12 April 2015 - 00:41

I know it's just an offhand comment from Niki, but maybe it's a good sign that he thinks Mercedes would stick around in F1 even if they weren't competing with anyone else.

#6 sopa

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Posted 12 April 2015 - 00:53

Had exactly the same inkling. Niki is becoming more and more like Bernie. One stupid uttering after the other, lately. And that's coming from an Austrian fan of Niki Lauda since 1971.

Maybe Lauda is preparing himself to take over from Bernie and is undergoing special training for the role! After all, considering Bernie's age, people are wondering, who could be his successor, and we have had no clear answer so far!

#7 whitewaterMkII

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Posted 12 April 2015 - 01:02

In the 70's it was almost all Fords, there were scattered BRMs, Alfas and Matras, which never won a race. Ferrari was there of course, but the vast majority of winners only had one engine, Cosworths.

Edited by whitewaterMkII, 12 April 2015 - 01:03.

#8 eff1fan

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Posted 12 April 2015 - 01:11

Niki Lauda has lashed out at Mercedes' struggling engine rivals, daring them to quit formula one.

Good on him for telling it as it his it would be a return o the good old days

Isn't this the same outfit that threatened to leave F1 unless they got their way?

#9 Quickshifter

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Posted 12 April 2015 - 04:18

This man has lost his marbles. The beauty of formula one is where the best manufacturers come in and showcase their wares. What a silly comment especially ata time when there is a need for more manufacturers to come in. This statement looks so ridiculous. I mean imagine Ferrari and Mclaren both of whom are sports car manufacturers and have an identity to protect running on same engines. If you give this man control he will reduce formula 1 to a one make formula.

#10 SanDiegoGo

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Posted 12 April 2015 - 04:43

niki letting bernie know mercedes won't be bullied out of F1. :up:

oh and this is obviously lewis' fault, too. :rolleyes:

Edited by SanDiegoGo, 12 April 2015 - 04:45.

#11 AustinF1

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Posted 12 April 2015 - 11:36

Would F1 thrive? Doubtful. Merc would though, esp since they'd be the only ones able to optimize the engine, ERS, & chassis.

#12 dweller23

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Posted 12 April 2015 - 11:41

Can't really disagree with Lauda - when in 1967 Lotus got Cossies, everyone lined up to get them. It's not that different with Mercedes nowadays.

#13 wj_gibson

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Posted 12 April 2015 - 11:45

Can't really disagree with Lauda - when in 1967 Lotus got Cossies, everyone lined up to get them. It's not that different with Mercedes nowadays.

Except that you can't just stick this type of engine in the back and press "GO".

20 Merc engines would mean 20 straight victories for the works Merc team and no real prospect of serious competition.

I'm bored of Lauda spouting off.

#14 Paco

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Posted 12 April 2015 - 11:47

Idiot. Period.

#15 kimster89

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Posted 12 April 2015 - 11:50

Whats with Lauda lately? :confused:

#16 Fatgadget

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Posted 12 April 2015 - 12:24

Can't really disagree with Lauda - when in 1967 Lotus got Cossies, everyone lined up to get them. It's not that different with Mercedes nowadays.

Erm Yes it is and significantly so.Cosworth was just an engine supplier.Sure the DVF engine was designed with the Lotus chassis in mind,but that could be replicated to any other manufactures chassis of the day; whereas Merc are a chassis builder as well ..thats where their significant advantage lies;the seamless integration of their engine and chassis.Gone are the days of hacking a chassis and shoehorning a stand alone engine.

#17 CaptnMark

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Posted 12 April 2015 - 13:49

20 Merc engines would mean 20 straight victories for the works Merc team and no real prospect of serious competition.

Exactly. Merc team needs to be sold for this to be a viable option.

#18 apoka

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Posted 12 April 2015 - 14:06

I know it's just an offhand comment from Niki, but maybe it's a good sign that he thinks Mercedes would stick around in F1 even if they weren't competing with anyone else.

Well, it wouldn't be that expensive for Merc in that case as they would not have much development costs (why bother) and they could charge for the manufacturing costs. There would be plenty of other problems though.

#19 ardbeg

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Posted 12 April 2015 - 14:15

I wonder how many of you that has commented in this thread actually read the article. From the look of it, most of you figured you knew enough about what he said and the state of his marbles just by looking at the thread title.

Edited by ardbeg, 12 April 2015 - 14:15.

#20 Gorma

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Posted 12 April 2015 - 14:20

No it bloody well wouldn't.

And there was me thinking Bernie had won 'stupidest comment of the year' already.

Well I'd leave Ferrari to supply half of the grid and Mercedes the other half. Then we'd have some good racing.

#21 KnucklesAgain

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Posted 12 April 2015 - 14:37

I wonder how many of you that has commented in this thread actually read the article. From the look of it, most of you figured you knew enough about what he said and the state of his marbles just by looking at the thread title.

I read the article and don't see how it changes anything.

#22 AustinF1

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Posted 12 April 2015 - 17:47

Whats with Lauda lately?

Lately?

Hasn't he pretty much always been a loose cannon?

#23 RealRacing

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Posted 12 April 2015 - 18:32

There should be 20 Mercedes cars, not just engines...

#24 Nemo1965

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Posted 12 April 2015 - 19:44

I agree with Lauda. I posted the same thought a couple of days back in the Bernie Ecclestone-thread. And got burned for it as well. I always like that. As the Armenian proverb say: 'The bringer of truth should keep once foot in the stirrups.'

#25 MikeV1987

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Posted 12 April 2015 - 20:35

Thrive? lol because I'm sure Merc would have equal engines to the rest... :rolleyes:

#26 Nemo1965

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Posted 12 April 2015 - 20:59

Thrive? lol because I'm sure Merc would have equal engines to the rest...

First of all: equality in engines (and tyres) have never been set in stone. Also in the Cosworth-era the big teams using the engine (Lotus, Tyrrel, later Williams) would have engines that JUST managed to have less technical problems than the Cosworths in the other cars.

Furthermore: a company like Mercedes would never risk selling significantly lesser engines to customer-teams. If you think that, I don't think you know the company or the people working there.

#27 MikeV1987

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Posted 12 April 2015 - 21:13

First of all: equality in engines (and tyres) have never been set in stone. Also in the Cosworth-era the big teams using the engine (Lotus, Tyrrel, later Williams) would have engines that JUST managed to have less technical problems than the Cosworths in the other cars.

Furthermore: a company like Mercedes would never risk selling significantly lesser engines to customer-teams. If you think that, I don't think you know the company or the people working there.

They weren't harvesting and storing energy in the cosworth era either, I don't believe for a second that customer teams will ever get as much out of the PU as the the manufacturer team. As for them risking sales, it is not as if customer teams have many choices right now anyway.

Edited by MikeV1987, 12 April 2015 - 21:17.

#28 Newbrray

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Posted 12 April 2015 - 21:19

Seems Bernie won't mind Merc engines for everyone

Ecclestone wants Mercedes power for entire grid

http://thisisf1.com/2015/04/12/mercedes-power-for-entire-grid/

Edited by Newbrray, 12 April 2015 - 21:19.

#29 Fatgadget

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Posted 12 April 2015 - 21:26

Yeah a Mercedes powered Ferrari!

#30 Nemo1965

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Posted 12 April 2015 - 21:36

They weren't harvesting and storing energy in the cosworth era either, I don't believe for a second that customer teams will ever get as much out of the PU as the the manufacturer team. As for them risking sales, it is not as if customer teams have many choices right now anyway.

Of course the Mercedes-team will always have an advantage over customer-teams. But everyone knows that if the STR's or the Red Bulls had Mercedes engines, it would be an almighty scrap at the front... Perhaps not battling EVERY race with Mercedes, but mighty close on most tracks.

#31 AustinF1

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Posted 12 April 2015 - 21:42

Yeah a Mercedes powered Ferrari!

Yeah, I guess Bernie doesn't want Ferrari in F1. Yeah right.

Bernie will say literally anything to stir up buzz about F1.

#32 HeadFirst

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Posted 13 April 2015 - 02:32

Whats with Lauda lately?

Male menopause????

#33 garagetinkerer

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Posted 13 April 2015 - 02:48

I know it's just an offhand comment from Niki, but maybe it's a good sign that he thinks Mercedes would stick around in F1 even if they weren't competing with anyone else.

I wouldn't bet my house on that one. They have threatened to quit for money, for the test at Spain being in violation of regulations and so on, and all that in a short span of 5 years (6th running). They may yet quit as a manufacturer and go back to supplier role, if it stops being a good value for the board.