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#101 BullHead

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Posted 23 May 2015 - 21:50

fans want cheaper race tickets and more available tv viewing



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#102 johnmhinds

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Posted 24 May 2015 - 03:45

fans want cheaper race tickets and more available tv viewing


You want to be able to watch the sport??? That's crazy talk!

#103 Option1

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Posted 24 May 2015 - 13:25

It's a "sport"??!!?  Now that's seriously crazy talk!

 

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#104 SophieB

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Posted 26 May 2015 - 21:09

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Over 150,000 of you have completed @GPDA_'s fan survey. Now that’s #FanPower. Had your say? Get involved: http://gpda.motorsport.com

 

 

That's an impressive response.



#105 SophieB

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Posted 27 May 2015 - 19:34

Jacques Villeneuve makes good points in a provocative way. Also, the Earth continued to revolve around the Sun, so yup, everything is normal in the universe.
 

"It is dangerous to ask the fans what they want, because a lot of modern F1 is what the fans wanted," the 1997 world champion told AUTOSPORT.
"Obviously it doesn't work. It is knowing what is required which is very intricate.
"You can't just come up with something in five seconds. 
"We have a tonne more overtaking than we have ever had, but people are more bored than they ever were.
"What we are missing is a special Formula 1.

 
He has his views on what this special F1 should be, but any more and I'd be pasting the whole thing so the rest is at the link: 

Villeneuve: It’s dangerous for Formula 1 to ask fans for views



#106 TimRTC

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Posted 27 May 2015 - 20:03

fans want cheaper race tickets and more available tv viewing

 

But most of those who reminisce about cheaper tickets also want to return to the days they could just show up and wander around the circuit and paddock freely. They want tickets to be cheap, but no-one else to show up...



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Posted 05 June 2015 - 21:15

I've been a bit late in giving my answers to the GPDA questions. What use it will do is debatable, however I was taken by the question about doping. Now does Alex Wurz know something that's not widely mentioned about drugs such as EPO? In an expose Panarama programme the other night it was proven that doing EPO in an on and off fashion every two weeks the testers could not detect the banned drug. We all know the standard gap between GP races in the season is two weeks. Could this "drug up" on EPO directly after the race and then train to the max, now be very common?

So many times down the last 20 years we have seen fresh as a daisy drivers jumping for joy on the podium. Before then, it was more common for drivers who had given their all, to hardly be able to walk or even stand.

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#108 anneomoly

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Posted 05 June 2015 - 22:54

I've been a bit late in giving my answers to the GPDA questions. What use it will do is debatable, however I was taken by the question about doping. Now does Alex Wertz know something that's not widely mentioned about drugs such as EPO? In an expose Panarama programme the other night it was proven that doing EPO in an on and off fashion every two weeks the testers could not detect the banned drug. We all know the standard gap between GP races in the season is two weeks. Could this "drug up" on EPO directly after the race and then train to the max, now be very common?

So many times down the last 20 years we have seen fresh as a daisy drivers jumping for joy on the podium. Before then, it was more common for drivers who had given their all, to hardly be able to walk or even stand.

 

With the greatest respect to the drivers of days gone by, even if you just look at a photo of them in their peak and drivers today in their peak I'm hardly surprised.  Honestly, who pre-Schumacher could keep up with Jenson Button? And I think that's something people dismiss because it fits the modern narrative of 'oh F1 is so easy'.

 

(if anything, I'd assume that the drivers of the 70s and 80s were far more likely to be on drugs).



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Posted 06 June 2015 - 16:20

You are perhaps not old enough to remember a TV programme called Superstars which pitted sports people from all disciplines against each other in various physical tests.  To everyone's shock & surprise, F1 drivers like Stewart and Hunt kept winning it against 'serious' athletes.  And of course Hunt was on drugs most of the time (allegedly).


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Posted 08 June 2015 - 17:40

You are perhaps not old enough to remember a TV programme called Superstars which pitted sports people from all disciplines against each other in various physical tests.  To everyone's shock & surprise, F1 drivers like Stewart and Hunt kept winning it against 'serious' athletes.  And of course Hunt was on drugs most of the time (allegedly).

 

I thought everyone remembered Superstars for two things - Kevin Keegan falling off his bike and hurting himself and Jody Scheckter applying typically F1-style ingenuity in the Squat Thrusts round. Hey, no-one said you COULDN'T put oil on your trainers.

 

Also, Edd Straw wrote a great article for Autosport subs on why JV was basically right.

 

http://plus.autospor...0231.1428768826

 

So if you don't ask 'the fans', what's the correct way to do things? The key is, as always, understanding what 'the fans' want. That is distinct from telling them what they want.

So how do you understand? Well-constructed, comprehensive surveys are one way, although it's crucial that the findings are analysed and understood in detail. That requires a very clear and professional skill set.

Then you need to analyse viewing habits. Again, this requires more than simply looking at how many people are watching, and drawing conclusions.

 

 

...asking 'the fans' is a mistake. It produces one-dimensional easy answers, ones that very often create more problems.

Instead, the key is good research. 

 

 

Couldn't agree more. Last time, the takeaway was that the fans were saying 'more races like Canada 2010!' But it was as if the group never really got beyond what made that race good beyond the fact there were numerous overtakes. But overtakes baby asked for, and overtakes baby got. So we ended up with DRS and oh so many overtakes but they're often hollow, not like Canada 2010 at all. 

 

I hope this time if people are going to use fan feedback those who seek to made decisions based on it delve below the surface a bit more.