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[Barry Boor]

Reading Mike Cox's excellent Masten Gregory book, I notice a mention of Stirling Moss driving a Ferrari at the Nassau Speed Week in 1957. It was a 290.MM and with it, he won the Nassau Trophy.

According to the book, the car was purple and white. I'm wondering if there is any photographic evidence of this car, #105, even black and white would be useful.

[Tim Murray]

There are a couple of b/w photos on Stirling's Racing Sports Cars pages:

http://www.racingspo...-GB.html?page=4

ETA: ... and a few more here, including one in colour, but the car doesn't look very purple in it, so it may not be a reliable guide:

http://www.ferrarida...0 MM 4 1956.htm

Edited by Tim Murray, 11 May 2015 - 18:39.

[Barry Boor]

Is it me? That looks much more like a Testa Rossa at the front end.

[Tim Murray]

The second link I posted above does mention a couple of bodywork restyles, including:

195709: front restyle to pontoon fender

[Barry Boor]

It may seem irrelevant but purple often looks like dark blue in photos. Check out Italian football team Fiorentina ot the Minnesota Vikings. Both wear purple and often look just plain old blue.

[Tuboscocca]

http://www.ferrarida...0 MM 4 1956.htm

 

Tim ,the photo (right/colour) of 0628 ,which seems from the period, in the Nassau chapter is more greenish-blue (green from the age??)..As Barry pointed out..often mistaken..

 

Regards Michael

[Jerry Entin]

 

Barry,

This photo taken at the Nassau docks should eliminate any doubt about the real color of that "purple Ferrari": light metallic blue and white.

 

Photo: Richard Macon

Willem Oosthoek Collection

 

all research: Willem oosthoek

Edited by Jerry Entin, 12 May 2015 - 02:53.

[Tim Murray]

This is the photo we've been discussing, Jerry - it appears on the Ferrari Database page about chassis 0628 that both Michael (Tuboscocca) and I have posted links to.

However, if you scroll right down to the bottom of that page, there are a couple of photos (presumably) showing the car in more modern times, and in these photos it looks to be much more purple than in the Nassau docks photo.

[Tuboscocca]

This is the photo we've been discussing, Jerry - it appears on the Ferrari Database page about chassis 0628 that both Michael (Tuboscocca) and I have posted links to.

However, if you scroll right down to the bottom of that page, there are a couple of photos (presumably) showing the car in more modern times, and in these photos it looks to be much more purple than in the Nassau docks photo.

..in the new Moss biography (by Simon Taylor)...Moss repeats....that the car was finished in a tasteful purple and white!!!

 

But the photo in the docks (with #105) shows a blue...

 

Michael

[Barry Boor]

Oh dear, the worms are on the loose again.

Mea culpa! (Whatever that means!)

[kayemod]

This is the photo we've been discussing, Jerry - it appears on the Ferrari Database page about chassis 0628 that both Michael (Tuboscocca) and I have posted links to.

However, if you scroll right down to the bottom of that page, there are a couple of photos (presumably) showing the car in more modern times, and in these photos it looks to be much more purple than in the Nassau docks photo.

 

Old colour photos, and even colour reproductions in books, new or old but especially old, are not a reliable guide to original colours.

 

Ps Tuboscocca, what's your opinion of the Moss/Simon Taylor book, are there any revelations that make it worth the asking price?

[Tuboscocca]

Old colour photos, and even colour reproductions in books, new or old but especially old, are not a reliable guide to original colours.

 

Ps Tuboscocca, what's your opinion of the Moss/Simon Taylor book, are there any revelations that make it worth the asking price?

Kayemod--agreed, but in this case the colour change of red hasn't taken place, because there is still a red sticker on the screen..

 

The Moss book--revelations , beside the purple!!--NO!! Simon has segmented the career in decades or years , giving a short (two page) intro to each. Then come photos with long captions, letting the master speak, and not only of cars, you know his beloved crumpet stuff ..All in all not to many news, but a nice 're-run' , and of course many unseen photos..

 

I got mine (shame I) for nearly the half price via ebay.uk (shameII)

 

Michael

Edited by Tuboscocca, 12 May 2015 - 15:26.

[Jerry Entin]

The Nassau docks again. This is what I call purple.

 

Photo: Richard Macon [Willem Oosthoek Collection]

Edited by Jerry Entin, 12 May 2015 - 23:31.

[Jerry Entin]

And these are REALLY purple, although not the same shade.

 

 

Photo: Richard Macon [Willem Oosthoek]

Edited by Jerry Entin, 12 May 2015 - 23:34.

[raceannouncer2003]

More pictures at this link of the car later:

 

http://www.barchetta.../0628.290MM.htm

 

Vince H.