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[thegamer23]

No, it's not Disneyland Paris. It's Moscow baby!


FORMULA E - Round 8: Moscow e-Prix
Event Guide: http://viewer.zmags....27#/251c3927/20


Formula E reaches its penultimate location (than we go to London for the most anticipated EVAH Season Finale's Double Header) of this very encouraging first season of close racing, dramas and Indy-like crazyness.
And it's set to be, maybe, the most stunning one.


Before you ask for info's, take a look at that!

• MISSED THE LAST RACE, WHAT HAPPENED IN BERLIN?

https://www.youtube....h?v=x5LOO8986dA

Well, it was a calmer race than the most we've seen so far in the championship (Monaco apart), but was special in his own. It was in fact the first non-street circuit of the calendar, set in the backdrop of the Tempelhof Airport.
A more traditional track, that gave us more traditional racing.
Jarno Trulli took a stunning pole position in the morning, but failed to mantain the promises in race trim. At the second corner he lost the position to Lucas Di Grassi, before getting sucked alive by the fast group of cars behind due to some battery management problems.
Di Grassi ran literally away, lapping 1 second faster than anybody else. Meanwhile, Jerome D'Ambrosio managed to climb up to 2th position after a long battle with Nick Heidfeld and Sebastien Buemi.
Podium was uncertain till the last lap, with Nelson Piquet Jr. pushing like crazy in the 2nd stint to gain up the position lost in qualy.

Buemi, anyway, managed to stay in front of the brazilian to complete the podium.

BUT WAIT!




Di Grassi got disqualified due to this!!


No, not really. He was actually disqualified from the race, but the real reason were some illegal parts & modifications on his Audi Sport ABT:

1) The front wheel fairing both left and right hand side have been modified with internal metal reinforcing rods.
2) Six of the eight holes in the front wing have been sealed. The remaining two holes having helicoil inserts and chamfers made.
3) Front flap and gurney LH 220 has a filler layer added and chamfer made.





RAAGE!

• SO... HOW IS THE TITLE'S BATTLE SHAPING UP?

• UNDERSTOOD..HOW'S THE MOSCOW CIRCUIT THAN?

Official lap Simulation





It looks and feels quite flowing, compared to the previous races. It has fast corners, in-turn breaking, one chicane and two incredibly tight hairpins. Your thoughts?

• GOOD ENOUGH! THERE'S ANY CHANGE IN THE LINE-UP?

Well, there's him!

Justin Wilson joins the Vodka party in Moscow! He will replace Scott Speed in the Andretti Team, pairing with Jean-Eric Vergne.

And another shock replacement! GT racer Antonio Garcia will get behind the China Racing Team wheel again, replacing the disappointing Charles Pic.


ABT -- Lucas di Grassi/Daniel Abt
eDAMS -- Nicolas Prost/Sebastien Buemi
Virgin Racing -- Sam Bird/Jaime Alguersuari
Team Mahindra -- Bruno Senna/Karun Chandhok
Team Andretti -- Justin Wilson/Jean-Eric Vergne
Team Venturi -- Nick Heidfeld/Stephan Sarrazin
Almin Aguri -- Antonio Felix Da Costa/Salvador Duran
Team Trulli -- Jarno Trulli/Vitantonio Liuzzi
China Racing -- Nelson Piquet Jr/Antonio Garcia
Dragon Racing -- Loic Duval/Jerome D'Ambrosio

• HOW CAN I FOLLOW THE RACE, AND WHEN??

This SATURDAY!!

(UK TIMES)

6.15-7.00 -> Free Practice 1 (45 min)
8.30-9.00 - Free Practice 2 (25 min)
10.00 - Qualifying
10.55 - Qualifying highlights (ITV4)
14.00 - e-Prix of Moscow! (LIVE ON ITV4)

Sorry to be Mr.Pedantic but those ITV4 times aren't right. Listings on ITV.com show TT qualy highlights between 1055-1155, followed by BRDC F4. The race show starts from 1pm (race starts at 1400BST,1600 local in Moscow). 


OFFICIAL LIVE STREAMING
http://www.fiaformulae.com/live

If this doesn't work, use the following link. It is a direct one, in case website is crashing.

http://osp001feh-vod...b/live/wif.html

If you are in one of the regions listed below, you will be able to watch live streaming of practice, qualy and race!

UK & Ireland
Sweden
Malaysia
Russia
Belgium
Spain
African Continent
United Arab States
Greece
Bahrain
Qatar
Monaco
Australia
New Zealand
India
Pakistan

Edited by thegamer23, 06 June 2015 - 06:08.

[Doughnut King]

Wilson's debut in the series. I've followed his career since his F3000 days.

[midgrid]

Where is the Nick Heidfeld option in the poll???

[vowcartaGP]

Yay Electricty! Yay Russia! Yay Piquet!

Ah I do like the frequency of races in the European leg, much needed after the long gaps between races when flying round the world. Let's have a more dramatic race please, which ideally sets up a 4/5 way title decider in London.

[paulb]

I think this is the first v(odka)ee Prix. glug, glug, glug.

[ANF]

Justin Wilson jumping straight from the Indy 500 to the traffic jam at T11.

Edited by ANF, 03 June 2015 - 22:15.

[maximilian]

Awesome.  Can't wait.

 

No fan of Pic, but not sure Garcia was a great pick.  Why not Petrov or Aleshin?  A real opportunity missed there, IMO.

 

And why isn't Speed racing in Moscow?  Murican problem in Russia?

 

 

EDIT: come to think of it, Putin himself should have been driving in place of Pic!

Edited by maximilian, 04 June 2015 - 12:49.

[JoyDiv]

Interesting to see Antonio García again in the championship

 

I've been always a fan of him, I hope he performs better than Punta del Este race

[kvyatfan]

Putin will win.

 

I wish there were an Irish Whiskey GP. Good effort though. Maybe I'll try some vodka and check out the race.

[Mekola]

Expect a great race at Moscow... Perhaps part of the battle for the title could be solved there.

[LuckyStrike1]

Why not Heidfeld? 

[thegamer23]

Dunno why, the pool was cancelled tonight!   

Re-done it, and added the beared driver to the list! 

[RC127]

Sorry to be Mr.Pedantic but those ITV4 times aren't right. Listings on ITV.com show TT qualy highlights between 1055-1155, followed by BRDC F4. The race show starts from 1pm (race starts at 1400BST,1600 local in Moscow).

Edited by RC127, 04 June 2015 - 11:15.

[thegamer23]

Thanks mate, corrected the op.   

Meanwhile:
 

 

 

Start finish straight. Road looks very large

[anbeck]

So Trulli says his power train will be strong for the next season. But given that they are limited on 150 kw/h of energy, how much of a difference will the rest of the power train actually make? Will it just be weight and center of gravity and those things, or can we expect that there will really be big differences pace wise?

[LuckyStrike1]

So what's the story now with Formula E and regulations. For this season is everything spec from chassi to powertrain to brakes, suspension and tyres? 

 

 

Will there be changes for next season where teams can build more of the car themselves and if so then what and what will still be spec? I've heard all kind of things from building their own powertrains and chassis to choose freely on brakes and suspension etc. 

[Anja]

The second season will have open powertrain development (that includes cooling, gearbox etc) but everything else will stay spec for now. The next step was supposed to be battery from the third season onward but looks like it could be delayed. As for other parts like aero, suspension or brakes I don't think there are any specific plans so far. It's all about cost control for now.

[FerrariV12]

The second season will have open powertrain development (that includes cooling, gearbox etc) but everything else will stay spec for now. The next step was supposed to be battery from the third season onward but looks like it could be delayed. As for other parts like aero, suspension or brakes I don't think there are any specific plans so far. It's all about cost control for now.

 

I remember hearing somewhere that the plan was that by around season 6 or 7 teams would be able to build their own cars around the powertrains. Agag has said before "it's not an aero championship" etc. but it does make sense for teams/constructors to be able to build their own cars around their motors to get the most out of them (fitting it into the existing car will bring its own constraints around packaging, cooling etc) you can always write the regulations so that for instance F1-style front wings or 2008-era F1 bodywork don't spring up.

 

But yeah, it's actually nice to following a series that (admittedly from the lowest starting point) plans on getting less spec over time.

[thegamer23]

So what's the story now with Formula E and regulations. For this season is everything spec from chassi to powertrain to brakes, suspension and tyres? 

 

 

Will there be changes for next season where teams can build more of the car themselves and if so then what and what will still be spec? I've heard all kind of things from building their own powertrains and chassis to choose freely on brakes and suspension etc. 

 

This could ask some of your questions. Not really new tho (february).
 

 

 

Next year is all about the powertrain development, wich is freezed in Season One. We can expect 3-4 seconds pace improvement. Here manufacturers like Citroen, Renault, Mahindra, can play a decisive role!
Along with that, they will be able to race at 170 KW, rather than limited on 150 KW. 

 

 

Those numbers are not confirmed officialy, but they have been drafted some time ago by the FIA Motorsport Council.
 

Current Season: race power limit 150kW; FanBoost 180kW

2015-16: race power limit 170kW; FanBoost 180kW    (less effective fanboost next year)

2016-17: race power limit 200kW; FanBoost 250kW  

 
in HP
 

Current Season: 200hp; Fanboost 240hp

2015/16: 230hp; Fanboost 240hp 

2016/17: 270hp; Fanboost 340hp

 

 

Than in Season 3 it should have been the battery development, but it's quite a mistery about it ATM. 

Edit: Back to Moscow

Buemi's excited

 

D'Ambrosio can be aggressive

 

Edited by thegamer23, 04 June 2015 - 18:59.

[thegamer23]

And a lovely insight with Jack Nicholls, inside the PitLane!     

 

Edited by thegamer23, 04 June 2015 - 18:59.

[bushgold]

Cretinous thread title, bordering on racism.

[thegamer23]

Cretinous thread title, bordering on racism.

Not intended to be, that's guaranteed.

Anyway.



Track looks awesome from this official simulation.     
Super fast all around with big elevation changes, even the chicane is very fast.

It's going to be a mental qualify

Edited by thegamer23, 05 June 2015 - 09:00.

[Peat]

Super fast all around 

 

 

Don't get your hopes up. 

[pacificquay]

 

 

And why isn't Speed racing in Moscow?  Murican problem in Russia?

 

 

 

Clashing rallycross event

[Muppetmad]

Those elevation changes look wonderful. Looks like it should be a good race.

[thegamer23]

Possible rain for the quali tomorrow! Should be clear for the race.

Meanwhile, Dario Franchitti is back! Good track walk with Jack Nicholls here!




Chicane's entry is incredibly narrow. Expect dramas. Bumps everywhere, negative camber fast corners. Some people will taste the walls for sure.

Edited by thegamer23, 05 June 2015 - 16:58.

[PiperPa42]

What app are you using for the forecast?

 

 

The track looks very nice.

[vowcartaGP]

Cretinous thread title, bordering on racism.

Don't see the offensiveness myself, but I'm Sure the OP will be just as offensive to us British souls in 3 weeks, I for one look forward to that.

Anyway, track looks great. Bring on the rain though...yet to see much this season

Edited by vowcartaGP, 06 June 2015 - 08:18.

[kvyatfan]

It's ok to be racist if someone's homophobic? I don't get it.

 

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I don't think the thread title was supposed to be offensive, and I don't think referencing a country with a common drink can be equated to racism. I'm sure Putin drinks vodka. Probably lots in the crowd will be.

 

I wonder if they'll move Formula 1 to this track,or a similar one. It's such an iconic place to have a race.

Edited by kvyatfan, 05 June 2015 - 18:48.

[Ben1445]

I reckon other series can learn from Formula E's videos. I rather like them.

Still think Franchitti and Jack Nicholls make a great pair 

[maximilian]

I reckon other series can learn from Formula E's videos. I rather like them.

Still think Franchitti and Jack Nicholls make a great pair 

 

They do!  Fabulous pair.  SO much better than the IndyCar bunch (even though I love IndyCar), and eons better than the dismal US Formula 1 line-up.

[thegamer23]

http://osp001feh-vod...b/live/wif.html


FP1 now live! 

[PEW]

Fantastic streaming -thanks

But where are the spectators?

[thegamer23]

 

 

Insanely bumpy circuit, cars are all over the place and the quali mode laps are set to be brilliant.

Circuit has very tight sections. Duval already tasted the wall, while Vergne nearly overcooked it. 


Both Dams set the pace, but they were the only to complete a lap in 200 kW. Bruno Senna is the first of the 150 kW


FP2 at 8.30 UK time!  

Edited by thegamer23, 06 June 2015 - 06:09.

[Richard T]

All three championship candidates seem to be up there. Looks like it might be a exciting race

Oh and the track looks veeeery bumpy and fast

[thegamer23]

FP2

http://osp001feh-vod...b/live/wif.html

[Rob29]

That looks a fabulous circuit

[Ben1445]

Missed FP1 but caught the second one. 

Circuit looks great, much better than I expected. Very fast, bumpy with varying width. Some decent elevation change too, love the bit into turn two. 
Should be fun! 

[vowcartaGP]

It's ok to be racist if someone's homophobic? I don't get it.

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I don't think the thread title was supposed to be offensive, and I don't think referencing a country with a common drink can be equated to racism. I'm sure Putin drinks vodka. Probably lots in the crowd will be.

I wonder if they'll move Formula 1 to this track,or a similar one. It's such an iconic place to have a race.

My apologies I realise my post made it sound that way. Perhaps I should have read what I had written before submitting as that is not how I feel. Anyway I've since edited it to be a bit more appropriate.

As for the on track action, I missed FP1, anyone know why Sam Bird had problems?

[thegamer23]

We're in quali!

http://osp001feh-vod...b/live/wif.html

[Ben1445]

Wow this circuit is practically alive with the drivers going full pelt in qualy mode! 

[thegamer23]

What a lap by Piquet!   

 

DEAL WITH IT

 

Buemi held up by the usual Alguersuari 

 

 

Edited by thegamer23, 06 June 2015 - 09:17.

[Ben1445]

My god VERGNE : O 

Edited by Ben1445, 06 June 2015 - 09:35.

[thegamer23]

JEV       

Great stuff

[thegamer23]

 

It's going to be a huge championship's fight today.

Piquet, Di Grassi, Buemi, D'Ambrosio and Prost (first 5 men in the standings) starting behind a stellar Jean-Eric Vergne. Quali highlights soon on the official channel

 

Edited by thegamer23, 06 June 2015 - 10:12.

[vowcartaGP]

I love the fact the top 5 in the championship will line up on the grid together, (nearly) in championship order. Going to be an interesting turn 1!

[thegamer23]

 

And complete Qualy Session

 

Edited by thegamer23, 06 June 2015 - 10:30.

[thegamer23]

Broadcast started on ITV4! 

-45 minutes to race

Edited by thegamer23, 06 June 2015 - 12:17.

[jonpollak]

My hotel here in Sapporo gets TV Ashai so we get the race

GREAT Bar around the corner..It's the Sapporo Brewery !!!

Jp

[DinosaursRoarForHugs]

Thread is quiet. Do we only care about Formula E at Monaco?

 

I'm looking forward to seeing Putin's smug little rodent face on TV again. And some good racing