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[Rasputin]

Inspired by another recent thread, what happens to all those obsolete F1 engines?

 

1.5 turbos of the 80s, 3.5 and 3.0 V10s and V12s, 2.4 V8s, are they all scrapped?

[Talisman]

Inspired by another recent thread, what happens to all those obsolete F1 engines?

 

1.5 turbos of the 80s, 3.5 and 3.0 V10s and V12s, 2.4 V8s, are they all scrapped?

 

Some would be kept by the heritage team, some kept in the complete cars for display and the excess scrapped I guess.

[Buttoneer]

They're put down and turned into glue.

[Rasputin]

That I somehow doubt, considering those beryllium-pistoned MHPE V10s for example, they must at least have been recycled in one way or the other?

 

Even if I would cut my right arm of to own one.

[chr1s]

I saw a DFV made into a wine rack once!

[BlinkyMcSquinty]

Engines an engine manufacturer considers still full of "secret" technology (for example, last year's Mercedes) cannot be allowed to fall into "enemy" hands so they are destroyed. If any remain, they are kept under high security for reasons given. Only when all the technology hidden in the engine is considered obsolete will it then be allow public viewing.

 

Gurney Flap has many pictures of Formula One engines http://www.gurneyfla...ariengines.html , but the most recent Ferrari engine is 2005.

 

[charly0418]

I remember the Sauber cutaway car video a couple of years ago. They couldnt show the engine! Even though it was a BMW one!

[Mat13]

At the end of every season, all the engines are melted down and made into a new necklace for Lewis Hamilton.

[JeePee]

We had an old Cosworth turbo at school. Stripped down a bit, just getting dusty in a corner.

Edited by JeePee, 04 June 2015 - 06:11.

[warp]

Ebay... 

[Ricciardo2014]

I knew a guy on another forum a few years ago that claimed to have bought a Toyota F1 chassis that he intended to use at track days.

The hardest part of his project was deciding on which engine to put in it, and what modifications would be needed.

He had detailed pics of what he had purchased, and where he was up to so I had no reason to doubt him.

 

He said he contacted Toyota with regards to getting his hands on the original engine, and was told a "full" engine would never be available.

He could get something like 2/3 of the original, at a ridiculous price, but the rest would never be released to the public so it was pointless.

 

It was all to do with not wanting anyone to know exactly what the engine was all about.

 

So Toyota must have had intact engines left over, but what happened to the rest I have no idea ?

[HoldenRT]

At the end of every season, all the engines are melted down and made into a new necklace for Lewis Hamilton.

 

Has been a while since this forum has made me lol.

[king_crud]

They go to engine heaven, where they're free to run on classic power circuits like Monza or the Old Hockeheim, and no one ever misses a gear shift, and they get the best fuel and oil, as much as they like of it. And they never blow up or need to be rebuilt.

[Jerem]

"Where do whores go?"

[Zava]

all engines* go to engine heaven.

 

 

*this year's renaults to engine hell

[Gilles4Ever]

all engines* go to engine heaven.

 

 

*this year's renaults to engine hell

even the current Honda engine?

[Disgrace]

Was it caught committing adultery with another engine or something?

[Oho]

even the current Honda engine?

 

beati pauperes spiritu

[maverick69]

Cosworth have quite a few CA V8's that they'll sell you - KERS and all.

 

The would also sell you a  V10 - but they've all gone now last time I checked.

[ToxicEnviroment]

Even better question is where do old F1 cars go.

 

There are so much cars from 2.4L era that you could arrange several championships with them. At a reasonable cost too under condition you run them as they are without developement.

 

Developement is what is costly in F1. Running costs not so much. Running costs of a GT3 car or AutoGP car or an ex F1 car should be the same

Edited by ToxicEnviroment, 04 June 2015 - 08:16.

[Zava]

Was it caught committing adultery with another engine or something?

yes, it was caught pleasing male genitalia orally, all the time.

[ollebompa]

And dyno engines, shure every car only use 4 a year(nowadays), but development dyno runs must consume hundreds.

Edited by ollebompa, 04 June 2015 - 09:05.

[Szoelloe]

even the current Honda engine?

 

I am fairly sure there are lawnmawers in heaven too.

[kraduk]

At the end of every season, all the engines are melted down and made into a new necklace for Lewis Hamilton.

 

Is that so he can keep is neck muscles in trim? 

[J. Edlund]

And dyno engines, shure every car only use 4 a year(nowadays), but development dyno runs must consume hundreds.

 

It is very unlikely to be that many, and most of them are probably disassembled and inspected.

[DampMongoose]

They were melted down in the same facility as Martin Whitmarsh.

[chipmcdonald]

That I somehow doubt, considering those beryllium-pistoned MHPE V10s for example, they must at least have been recycled in one way or the other?

 

Even if I would cut my right arm of to own one.

 

 

You wouldn't want to be around the exhaust of any of those engines with Be parts in them. 

[Rasputin]

Beryllium is a fascinating material though, while Steel, Titanium, Aluminium an Magnesium all have the same relation between density and modulus, Be has the density of Mg and 140% the modulus of Steel.

Edited by Rasputin, 04 June 2015 - 19:28.

[Absulute]

Beryllium is a fascinating material though, while Steel, Titanium, Aluminium an Magnesium all have the same relation between density and modulus, Be has the density of Mg and 140% the modulus of Steel.

 

Hmm, yes, I know some of those words...

[Mat13]

So do I. Is, all, the...

[Henri Greuter]

Beryllium is a fascinating material though, while Steel, Titanium, Aluminium an Magnesium all have the same relation between density and modulus, Be has the density of Mg and 140% the modulus of Steel.

 

 

Don'r forget that Beryllium is much more toxic that any of those, if you talk about ow to poisin F1 to a slow death here's a solution to do it: allow Beryllium....

 

 

Henri

[Rasputin]

So do I. Is, all, the...

Like this, Beryllium has the weight of Magnesium and 140% the stiffness of Steel, which put MHPE's V10s engines out of reach for the competition in the late 90s, sound familiar anyone?

 

But what did they do with those pistons, I'd kill for one of those as an ashtray?

[DampMongoose]

Bernie probably eats his cereal out of them...

[Rasputin]

Bernie probably eats his cereal out of them...

Aha, so that's how he looks so good at his considerable age?

 

[63Corvette]

Well...........................my wife and I were recently in a  ROME Ferrari store. Of course there were clothes to buy....BUT, there were also several Ferrari F1 engines on display in that store. SO, I would say that (at least for Ferrari) the "OLD F1" engines go to Ferrari stores for display purposes (to sell merchandice).

[CoolBreeze]

Some goes for, like example, Ferrari's corsa clienti program.

[NonDescriptMotorist]

Friend has a 70's DFV in his garage thats been sitting there for about 15 years. .. had no idea what it was until we told him. ... He picked it up cheap because he thought it looked cool

[R Soul]

The engines are somewhere very safe. There are top men working on them right now.

[OO7]

But what did they do with those pistons, I'd kill for one of those as an ashtray?

Very good.

[Alexandros]

The Be engines should theoretically be ok for use. The machining part would be far more toxic. If the engine blows up and catches fire, it could also be an issue.

[ClubmanGT]

Friend has a 70's DFV in his garage thats been sitting there for about 15 years. .. had no idea what it was until we told him. ... He picked it up cheap because he thought it looked cool

 

If he ever wants to gift it towards a ridiculous Mini repower project, let me know.