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[kapow]

So Nasr's car was at that straight?

Rules state that drivers must reduce speed and proceed slowly back to the pits.

How does accelerating from 40mph to 200mph satisfy that regulation?

The flags are there to protect lives, drivers, marshalls and spectators.

Where Nasr's car was is irrelevant.

[Niceone]

Rules state that drivers must reduce speed and proceed slowly back to the pits.

How does accelerating from 40mph to 200mph satisfy that regulation?

The flags are there to protect lives, drivers, marshalls and spectators.

Where Nasr's car was is irrelevant.

I think he deserved penalty, but point was that he didn't put anyone in danger when he overtook that Manor. Ignoring local yellows is much worse. 

[autosportfan]

Are they having brake issues again this year, or are you stuck in 2014?

In Bahrain 2015 both Mercs had a problem at the end of the race. They may have been able to fix those issues by now..

[Pistol_Peto]

It's a 15 place penalty for changing your power unit and a 5 place penalty for ignoring red flags (3 points on your licence is meaningless).

 

F1 Priority:  Cost of Power Units > Major Safety Infraction.  Jules Bianchi would disagree.

 

This sport needs an enema.

[Niceone]

It's a 15 place penalty for changing your power unit and a 5 place penalty for ignoring red flags (3 points on your licence is meaningless).

 

F1 Priority:  Cost of Power Units > Major Safety Infraction.  Jules Bianchi would disagree.

 

This sport needs an enema.

Maybe Vettel would have gotten more serious penalty if his action would have actually caused danger? Do they wave only red flag in these situations? Maybe have red + yellow flags waved simultaneously where crash (or what ever caused red flag) occurred? It would also mean the same as local double yellow. 

 

Ignoring red flag: 5-15 place penalty depending situation

Ignoring yellow flag: 5-15 place penalty

Ignoring red + yellow: 10 place  - race ban

Ignoring double yellows: 10 place penalty - race ban  

 

Depends on how deliberate it was; how much time there was to react etc.  For example in Vettel's case it would have been close to that 15 place penalty. 

[Pistol_Peto]

A red flag indicates the proceedings have been stopped.  The drivers must return to the pits using extreme caution and be ready to stop.  This couldn't be more clear.

 

When you watch the video of Vettel driving - he flagrantly ignores this, passing a car on track no less.  It's a flagrant violation of the rules of racing.

 

That his penalty is 5 places and replacing your power unit is 15 places shows exactly where F1's priority lies.  In light of last year's Japanese GP - this is is an absolutely disgraceful indictment of F1 Management.