I mean, it's interesting, but having heard F1 cars in the rain with TC, it gets annoying.
I remember the Canadian GP in 2000 when it was still supposedly banned. I didn't really know what TC was supposed to sound like, but when the rain started falling the Ferraris and maybe the Benettons had that distinctive machine gun sound on acceleration. Pretty sure everyone knew they were running it, but no one could stop them because it was buried in their code.
Ah, the good old days of flagrant cheating.
No, I was being sarcastic. It ruins 2001+ onboard laps for me.
Great story. One thing about that era that I love, the variety. Ferrari and Lambo with their shrieking 12s, the less refined sound of Renault's V10, the various Ford V8 teams with its lower revs, the Judds, the various iterations of Honda engines, you could almost always tell which car was which with your eyes closed.
You could completely tell. The Ferrari v12 was glorious.
That's what hooked me about the car, too. That impossibly low looking cab and the sleekness. Those rain soaked pictures of it are lovely. Most people go on about the P3 but I much prefer the 312P. No contest.
I keep a whole folder of photos of the car on my desktop. I'm currently working on a drawing of it. I might be a little obsessed.
Add this to your collection, from Goodwood. Gorgeous!
I always liked McLarens unique low 'burping' sound late 90's and early 2000, but imo, what a F1 car should sound like is the following ...
That screaming, the gearing up, the revs hitting its limit ... its just awesome, just awesome.
Just listen!!! This is what F1 should be all about. That engine note, just getting higher and higher until you think it's impossible that it will rev any higher but it does. And then listen to the fart machines they are running around in today. What a shame that the idiots that make the rules has totally killed F1. Me and my wife went to see the Spa race 2014, she made me promise to never take her to something so utterly boring ever again. We also went a couple of years ago and then she was stunned by the noise, smell and sheer sensation of the whole thing.... This makes me so sad.... :-(
Just listen!!! This is what F1 should be all about. That engine note, just getting higher and higher until you think it's impossible that it will rev any higher but it does. And then listen to the fart machines they are running around in today. What a shame that the idiots that make the rules has totally killed F1. Me and my wife went to see the Spa race 2014, she made me promise to never take her to something so utterly boring ever again. We also went a couple of years ago and then she was stunned by the noise, smell and sheer sensation of the whole thing.... This makes me so sad.... :-(
Well said, you should be overwhelmed by the noise and visual glory. A "fave sounding car" should stamp such a positive impression on your memory that you remember it for years with fond emotions.
I'll tell you what a favorite sounding race car should do. Other people here have had the same experience.
Crossing the spectator bridge from Ille St Helene in Montreal to the track on Ille Notre Dame, during the V10 era on a Friday morning for first practice. Everyone is walking at a normal pace. Then the first car leaves the pits at the start of the session, and you're still being funneled along the bridge. You can hear it from all the way across the island being fired up and leaving pit lane.
Depending on the wind, the sound as it moves around the first few corners comes to you as this high pitched echoing across the water, it builds in intensity as the car approaches and you can follow the sound around the track. By the time the car brakes into the T6/7 chicane, you can feel the downshifts as thumps in the ground, and the acceleration out of that corner is the most beautiful shriek that gets louder and louder until it flashes past as a blur over the top of the armco at the outside of the hairpin, and then more thumping/crackling as the car brakes into the hairpin, followed by a sustained blast for half a minute away from you down to the first corner.
That's what is happening to your ears. Every hair on your body is standing up and your head is buzzing with excitement, and everyone around you is suddenly walking just below a running pace to get to their viewing location. People that have never heard the cars in person before are completely awestruck and looking at their friends in disbelief with these huge grins. It sounds trite, but as someone that only gets to see these things a few days a year, that moment when I'd first hear them from across the water each summer was one of the highlights of my year.
2014, my most recent visit to the track, and that feeling is gone, but that is for another thread.
This isn't the same bridge I cross and it's of the V8s which didn't have quite the same visceral impact, but it gives you an idea-
Well said, you should be overwhelmed by the noise and visual glory. A "fave sounding car" should stamp such a positive impression on your memory that you remember it for years with fond emotions.
Yep.
Like the low, rumbling 'God fart' that the '88 Sauber Group C car made, which you could hear rumble and growl its way round every corner at Silverstone, providing a regular profundo bassline under the screams and howls of the N/A cars which came and went with distance. It sounded like judgement.
Or the increasingly joyous and harmonious crescendo of the last Ferrari V12s as they approached you and climbed through the rev range then the sighs of sadness, first as they passed you, then the deeper one as they came off the throttle. They seemed almost to address everyone personally as they passed.
I love that video. I've watched it a few times before, and I've always wondered... When he brakes into the tighter corners, it sounds like he's just dropping from 5th or 6th straight into 2nd or 1st or whatever. At that point had the carbon brakes obviated the need to heel/toe through each gear in sequence while braking?
I was there. The Williams sounded nicest. V8s were louder but not particularly nice noise.
Who was the guy in the blue '70s era F1 car? Not sure exactly what car it is, but he was absolutely flying, visibly faster in those clips than any of the other F1 cars from that era.
This thread makes me realize that I'd rather go to Goodwood than just about any other motorsports event bar Le Mans and maaaayyybbbbeee Monaco, if someone invited me to stay on their yacht for the weekend.
For me the only thing a bit crap about Goodwood is some of the driving.
I think it would be much better if the event were a week long! And the guys had plenty of time to sort the cars out, learn the course nad for some of them to go a bit faster! I know that is not possible, but you get the drift?
It is truly a let down when you see an amazing car being driven up there no faster than I or anyone else could drive it.
I obviously understand why, pricetag, value etc. But isn't it frustrating when cars that are clearly lovingly put together either don't run right, or misfire all the way up the hill, repeatedly over the two days.
There is some amazing stuff there, but I haven't been for many years now simply because it is SO busy, SO packed and just too many people not giving it the berries.
Another event that is awesome I would guess if you are competing, but a VERY VERY them and us event. When it used to be a lovely day to potter!
For me the only thing a bit crap about Goodwood is some of the driving.
I think it would be much better if the event were a week long! And the guys had plenty of time to sort the cars out, learn the course nad for some of them to go a bit faster! I know that is not possible, but you get the drift?
It is truly a let down when you see an amazing car being driven up there no faster than I or anyone else could drive it.
I obviously understand why, pricetag, value etc. But isn't it frustrating when cars that are clearly lovingly put together either don't run right, or misfire all the way up the hill, repeatedly over the two days.
There is some amazing stuff there, but I haven't been for many years now simply because it is SO busy, SO packed and just too many people not giving it the berries.
Another event that is awesome I would guess if you are competing, but a VERY VERY them and us event. When it used to be a lovely day to potter!
I remember the first FoS, it was a very different and, in many respects, a much better event when it started. As with everything, it gets bigger and bigger each year, one by one, areas are closed to the proles and ticket prices rise.
Inevitably, it gradually becomes less and less fan friendly and ever more focused on VIP's, corporate input and merchandising.
For me the only thing a bit crap about Goodwood is some of the driving.
I think it would be much better if the event were a week long! And the guys had plenty of time to sort the cars out, learn the course nad for some of them to go a bit faster! I know that is not possible, but you get the drift?
It is truly a let down when you see an amazing car being driven up there no faster than I or anyone else could drive it.
I obviously understand why, pricetag, value etc. But isn't it frustrating when cars that are clearly lovingly put together either don't run right, or misfire all the way up the hill, repeatedly over the two days.
There is some amazing stuff there, but I haven't been for many years now simply because it is SO busy, SO packed and just too many people not giving it the berries.
Another event that is awesome I would guess if you are competing, but a VERY VERY them and us event. When it used to be a lovely day to potter!
There's always the video of Heidfeld wringing out a year-old Mclaren in '99 for the all time record. Might as well share that in case anyone has missed it. So twitchy! Such V10! Wow!
No, I was being sarcastic. It ruins 2001+ onboard laps for me.
