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[emmanuelrubi]

Which are F1 biggest lies you remember of your years watching F1, mine are:

 

- The check is in the post (Lotus 2013)

 

- We will be presenting new updates to the car that will 100% put us back on the top (McLaren 2013 - ???)

 

- Lewis Hamilton is staying at McLaren (2012).

 

- Alonso is staying at Ferrari (2014).

 

- Teams should start fighting for Maldonado services since he will be WDC (Eddie Jordan Spain 2012)

Edited by emmanuelrubi, 09 July 2015 - 15:46.

[sopa]

There is certainly one standard practice of lie - until a deal is officially announced, driver X and team Z always deny that they have signed a deal or been in contact, while in fact they have been in negotiations for a long time.

[emmanuelrubi]

There is certainly one standard practice of lie - until a deal is officially announced, driver X and team Z always deny that they have signed a deal or been in contact, while in fact they have been in negotiations for a long time.

Agree but in cases like the check for Lotus i really think that applies.

[redraven9]

None of these are lies.

 

More like speculations.

Edited by redraven9, 09 July 2015 - 16:01.

[sopa]

Agree but in cases like the check for Lotus i really think that applies.

 

Yep, another one was ...

 

Wait, what was it. Qadbak? Late in 2009, who allegedly had bought Sauber. That was such a lie Peter Sauber had actually sold the team to "them", but had to then save the team by himself after that.

 

And of course USF1. One heck of a lie all-around.

 

Also every now and then we have some Russian or Arabic "investors", who claim to sponsor a team or put a driver (Sirotkin a few years ago) somewhere, but the money never appears.

[sopa]

None of these are lies.

 

More like speculations.

 

I am still wondering whether some of Zoran Stefanovich claims had some truth or were pure lies, i.e that he had some facilities to run an F1 team!

[chunder27]

That Eddie Jordan's hair is real.

 

That Lewis Hamilton is some sort of saviour of F1

 

That 140,000 can't be wrong!

[BRG]

That Eddie Jordan's hair is real.

Of course Eddie's hair is real.

 

Just not his.

[Disgrace]

I learnt that the cake is a lie during my years of watching F1. Have I got this right?

[FerrariV12]

I'm sure I've heard of instances (mostly from a while ago), about drivers lying about their age, either saying they were older to be old enough to get a licence, or saying they were younger towards the end of their careers so as not to appear as "washed up" in the eyes of teams, sponsors etc.

[dierome1987]

That drivers can help "develop" a car.

[sopa]

I'm sure I've heard of instances (mostly from a while ago), about drivers lying about their age, either saying they were older to be old enough to get a licence, or saying they were younger towards the end of their careers so as not to appear as "washed up" in the eyes of teams, sponsors etc.

 

I remember hearing a wild rumour a few years ago that Mark Webber was actually older than claimed. Lol!

[hittheapex]

Got to be Spygate.

[balmybaldwin]

Benetton  - We don't have traction control

Benetton - No, we haven't tampered with the fuel rig and removed safety critical parts for a minor performance boost

[kamikaze1]

Coulthard taking out Schumacher in Belgium 1998.  Declaring innocence all the time, then he retires and apologises to Schumi about it.  

[Ross Stonefeld]

That 140,000 can't be wrong!

 

How about that there were 140,000?

[OO7]

2014: By the end of the year the cars will be 3 to 4 seconds per lap quicker  .

[Sheepmachine]

Liegate.

[/thread]

[maverick69]

That Fred didn't know that Jr was going to throw it into the wall.

That McLaren didn't throw the title in 2007.

[Atreiu]

Alonso knew nothing of Crashgate.

[Atreiu]

Prost being innocent at Suzuka 1989.

[milestone 11]

Bernie, "It's just for more cooling". Gordon Murray's incredible BT46b.

[EVL29]

Road car relevance.

[ensign14]

Not in F1, but Condor Motorsports went so far as to put in an entry for one Payton Tapp Watkins at the Road America Champcar event in 2004, who had convinced them he had been a Minardi test driver, when his total motor racing experience had been having his picture taken by a show car wearing Nomex.  The Autoracing archives make fun, yet sad, reading...

 

  The Bloomington, CA based team is backed by some big name celebrities and sponsors that will be revealed with the official announcement from the team.  2004 will be a learning year so the team will run Reynards, moving to Lolas starting in 2005.  Watkins recently signed a personal sponsorship deal with American Express and a commercial with Tiger Woods will begin airing soon.

 

 

Marc Hynes deserved a lot better.

[kamikaze1]

That F1 is the pineapple  pinnacle of Motorsport.  

[superden]

That F1 drivers are the best in the world.

[ensign14]

Peugeot saying that this was not an engine failure.
 

[superden]

Peugeot saying that this was not an engine failure.

I remember that. Now that's a proper failure, none of your modern MGU-Thingumabob nonsense, when an engine was an engine, not an acronym for stereos or something to keep your G&T cool.

Ka-BLAM.

Edited by superden, 09 July 2015 - 17:00.

[maverick69]

Peugeot saying that this was not an engine failure.
 

 

I was there! The pistons made indents in the track!

 

Running an engine back then without piston-rings was always going to be a bit sketchy.

[HeadFirst]

Most of these are not lies. This thread seems to be a collection of instances where people were wrong or misinformed, and differences of opinion.

[RealRacing]

"We let them race"

 

"I don't care who my teammate is"

 

"He doesn't have No. 1 in his contract"

 

"F1 has always been like this" (referring to Formula Conservation)

 

"My car is bad"

 

"I had no idea" (FA of Piquet gate)

 

"There were no TOs" (ALO, MAS, Ferrari at HH 2010)

 

"I wouldn't like to win like that" (HAM on VET at RBR)

 

"We are in favor of change in F1" (Mercedes 2014-2015)

 

"DRS was the only solution we could find"

[Marklar]

Alonso towards the end of the last season:"Everything is working according to the plan!"

[Marklar]

"He had a cracked chassis"

[Mat13]

Peugeot saying that this was not an engine failure.

I know what isn't a lie in that video- Blundell's power slide is awesome, 'coz its next to fire an' evryfink! New profile picture, done.

[hittheapex]

Alonso knew nothing of Crashgate.

That's supposition, rather than "biggest lie."  For example, we know for a fact that McLaren lied during the Spygate saga, that Hamilton and Dave Ryan lied in Melbourne in 2009 and that the fan on the Brabham was not primarily for cooling, even though it was legal. There's just as much evidence that Alonso didn't know anything about it. We can't know either way for sure.

[JAW97]

Markus Winkelhock is not actually the best driver of all time.

[Ross Stonefeld]

And he didn't need to know and there was every reason *not* to tell him.

[OvDrone]

That Senna's steering column was intact before the crash.

 

That last year's Japanese GP shouldn't have started earlier because of the Typhoon.

 

The whole of 2007.

 

Brundle's whole 'best drivers / best cars / best circuits / pinnacle whatnot' spiel every other grand prix weekend.

[HeadFirst]

There was an incredibly funny quote from Red Bull about their illegal ride height adjuster, but I cannot seem to find it.

[HeadFirst]

That Senna's steering column was intact before the crash.

 

That last year's Japanese GP shouldn't have started earlier because of the Typhoon.

 

The whole of 2007.

 

Brundle's whole 'best drivers / best cars / best circuits / pinnacle whatnot' spiel every other grand prix weekend.

Wouldn't those be better classified as delusions?

[OvDrone]

Wouldn't those be better classified as delusions?

 

True. Or handsomely paid lies.

[AustinF1]

Which are F1 biggest lies you remember of your years watching F1, mine are:

 

- The check is in the post (Lotus 2013)

 

- We will be presenting new updates to the car that will 100% put us back on the top (McLaren 2013 - ???)

 

- Lewis Hamilton is staying at McLaren (2012).

 

- Alonso is staying at Ferrari (2014).

 

- Teams should start fighting for Maldonado services since he will be WDC (Eddie Jordan Spain 2012)

- F1 needs to be road car-relevant.

- F1 is road car-relevant.

 

ETA: Ah, beat me to it:

 

Road car relevance.

 

Edited by AustinF1, 09 July 2015 - 20:21.

[Mat13]

True. Or handsomely paid lies.

Or, just possibly, opinions. Much like all of this thread.

Edited to remove excess grumpiness.

Edited by Mat13, 09 July 2015 - 18:55.

[Watkins74]

That Alonso knew about Crashgate. 

 

That everyone loved Senna before his crash.

[OvDrone]

Or, just possibly, opinions. Much like all of this thread.

Edited to remove excess grumpiness.

 

It's ok dude. There's a certain morbid beauty in reading F1's disgruntled fans post. As if we ain't a rare bread overall, we got to complain and whine about it the whole while.

 

At least we ain't at that Honda social suicide level yet, eh?

[OO7]

'It's all about the tyres'.

[Rob]

That Bernie is the only person who could do what he did.

[Mat13]

It's ok dude. There's a certain morbid beauty in reading F1's disgruntled fans post. As if we ain't a rare bread overall, we got to complain and whine about it the whole while.

At least we ain't at that Honda social suicide level yet, eh?

😂 nail-head. I'm sure football fans don't whinge about their sport like us lot. Maybe it's because secretly, we like being the only one we know into F1, and try to keep it that way by making out it's bollocks...

[baddog]

"We are not cheating and our car complies with the letter and spirit of the technical regulations."

 

Everyone - every year.

[OvDrone]

nail-head. I'm sure football fans don't whinge about their sport like us lot. Maybe it's because secretly, we like being the only one we know into F1, and try to keep it that way by making out it's bollocks...

 

I also love Rugby and Hockey.

 

and complaining. and for some god forsaken reason keep watching WTCC.