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[STRFerrari4Ever]

Woo that was tight between Seb and Daniel

[Ev0d3vil]

Half a second faster than Nico. Wow.

[Emilvang]

Well done, Red Bull and Ricciardo. Nearly got 3rd!

[PAGATRON]

So.... How much did Lauda bet then?

[Riverside]

Great lap by Lewis .... Nico never had the balance to challenge... lockup ....  Lewis nailed it. 

[NoDivergence]

Hamilton is just insane at Hungary, what a beast

[Tenmantaylor]

Wonder how much DF Sebs helmet wing is generating. Enough to beat D Ricc it appears!

Edited by Tenmantaylor, 25 July 2015 - 13:07.

[Diablobb81]

As tense as something that is not very tense.

But great Hamilton. And very good job by Seb.

Edited by Diablobb81, 25 July 2015 - 13:08.

[Xeriks]

Easy work.

[OO7]

Great lap from HAM.  I was hoping for a 1:21.    Sky graphic just indicated that a 1:21.9 was possible.

[Tenmantaylor]

Yep, one of Lewis' best ever pole positions. Want to see that lap again on board with no comms.

[Strontiumdog]

Wow, what a lap. Hammertime

 

[MortenF1]

Ninth pole for Hamilton! Close to six tenths quicker!

...but yes, Rosberg complained throughout about understeer.

Vettel a customary third. Dissapointed that Räikkönen couldn't keep it up, as he looked genuinely qucker before.

Great effort from Ricciardo and also Verstappen.

[kvyatfan]

As tense as something that is not very tense.

But great Hamilton. And very good job by Seb.

You missed Alonso's flying pit?

[Kobasmashi]

THG.

[CHIUNDA]

Lewis - Nico - Vettel

 

How many times have these three started in this order this year? Must have broken a record by now. 

[OvDrone]

Hamilton and the Hungaroring are a match made in heaven.

[JHSingo]

Hoping for another rocket ship start from the second row like at Silverstone, otherwise we're probably in for another dull race again...

[VolvoT5]

Hoping for another rocket ship start from the second row like at Silverstone, otherwise we're probably in for another dull race again...

Yep.  Need the Redbull or Ferrari to get ahead of the Mercs at the start to make this interesting.  Merc dominance is simply too strong, they will cruise away into the distance.

[Nonesuch]

I just checked the times; surely Rosberg must have an excuse of sorts. The gap to Hamilton is rather embarrassing. Luckily for him the Mercedes is so much better than anything else that he's still a comfortable second.

 

Here's hoping we'll get some of that Red Bull vs. Ferrari actiom that made last summer's F1 somewhat interesting.

[ninetyzero]

Another Merc front row lock-out. Great. I wonder who's going to win tomorrow? /sarcasm

[P123]

Hoping for another rocket ship start from the second row like at Silverstone, otherwise we're probably in for another dull race again...

Because all that matters is first position....

[anti]

Practice 1:  :: Lap Chart
Practice 2:  :: Lap Chart
Practice 3:  :: Lap Chart
Qualification:  :: Sector times :: Max speeds :: Lap Chart
 

[Marklar]

Funny one from the press conference

Q: (Peter Vamosi - Vas Nepe) To all of you, the strange thing here in Hungaroring is if Lewis Hamilton wins, Kimi Raikkonen is always second. What do you think about that?

LH: I don’t know what to say to that.

SV: I don’t think Lewis cares.

LH: It’s good for Kimi.

[Samhain]

Great lap by Hamilton ruined by that awful on board camera. Fom are a complete joke.

[vlado]

Just watched the onboard on f1.com .. damn, looks like a perfect lap to me but someone said he made a mistake in s3 ?

[Marklar]

Just watched the onboard on f1.com .. damn, looks like a perfect lap to me but someone said he made a mistake in s3 ?

Toto did

[BlinkyMcSquinty]

For the first row, predictable and boring. The drivers have a dominant car and the team goes to great lengths to keep them from interacting with each other. Since Hamilton is naturally quicker, nothing dramatic, nothing memorable, no one to make it a true battle.

 

Further back, it gets very interesting, the differences between Ferrari, Williams, and Red Bull determined by the type of track. The six drivers in those teams will give it their all. Vettel will be hard to pry out of 3rd, Ricciardo finally has a decent shot, Raikkonen is .. well, it's Kimi for Pete's sake, Bottas has this opportunity to claim supreme driver on his team, and Kvyat is on fire, he may be the story once it is all over.

 

The next group back will be interesting too, Force India versus Lotus, versus STR. Good stuff.

 

Then we have the unhappy team of McLaren, the happy family of Sauber, with Manor bringing up the rear and the painful memories of Bianchi.

 

I just hope the cameras stay away from the leaders and we get to see some quality racing.

[TomNokoe]

Track soaked atm. Green for tomorrow.

[Marklar]

Track soaked atm. Green for tomorrow.

Not exactly. With GP2, GP3 and Porsche Supercup races they will be plenty rubber again on the circuit for the start unless its starting raining again tomorrow at lunch. But for sure it will affect the balance of the cars: some hope for Nico?

[JHSingo]

Because all that matters is first position....

 

This discussion again?

 

No of course it doesn't - but excitement at the front generally means it's a good race to watch. Most people agreed that Silverstone was the best race of the season. Why?

 

Because we had someone other than Mercedes leading for a while, and the Mercedes drivers actually had to do some overtaking. It'd be nice to have some more of that kind of thing tomorrow, on what has otherwise been a very forgettable season up to now.

[sennafan24]

For the first row, predictable and boring. The drivers have a dominant car and the team goes to great lengths to keep them from interacting with each

Watch a re-run of a 2004 race this morning?

[BlinkyMcSquinty]

Watch a re-run of a 2004 race this morning?

No, I watched the qualifying for the 2015 Hungarian Formula One Grand Prix this morning. Pull your head out of your -- and stick to the topic, attempting to switch away.

[Jordan44]

Not exactly. With GP2, GP3 and Porsche Supercup races they will be plenty rubber again on the circuit for the start unless its starting raining again tomorrow at lunch. But for sure it will affect the balance of the cars: some hope for Nico?

 

They can fix tyre pressures before the race. If Lowe is correct he wont have the same issues anyway.

[sennafan24]

No, I watched the qualifying for the 2015 Hungarian Formula One Grand Prix this morning. Pull your head out of your -- and stick to the topic, attempting to switch away.

My post while sarcastic, did have a point. How are Mercedes going great lengths to stop their drivers from competing in qualifying. How is "interaction" needed in qualifying ?

Even on race day, there is not much evidence that Mercedes are going to great lengths to stop their drivers from racing each other.

Your post sounds more applicable to 2004.

Edited by sennafan24, 25 July 2015 - 19:30.

[Marklar]

They can fix tyre pressures before the race. If Lowe is correct he wont have the same issues anyway.

According to Rosberg tyre pressure was not the problem. They just try to reduce the understeer with different tyre pressures which failed. And with cooler temps his problems could potentually increase. But a green track would change anything.

[lewymp4]

Awesome display from Lewis during qualy today, and congratulations to him for his fifth pole position at the Hungary track. I'm looking forward to a calm, no drama easy win for Lewis tomorrow.

[superden]

I'm looking forward to a calm, no drama easy win for Lewis tomorrow.

The rest of us hope you are disappointed.

[JHSingo]

The rest of us hope you are disappointed.

 

I am forever baffled by people who are like that (the person you quoted, I mean). Surely even the most ardent Hamilton supporter wants to see some action in a race? I can't understand how you can take enjoyment from a boring race just because your favourite driver won.

 

I don't get the 'driver supporter' mentality really. I follow motorsport mainly because I want to see exciting racing, and be entertained for a couple of hours, not because I want to see one guy win. Oh well, to each their own.

[sennafan24]

I am forever baffled by people who are like that (the person you quoted, I mean). Surely even the most ardent Hamilton supporter wants to see some action in a race? I can't understand how you can take enjoyment from a boring race just because your favourite driver won.

I said this in another thread. As a Lewis fan, things have rarely been straight forward. It's a nice change when things are boring and smooth. As long as there is some decent action behind, it's a delight to see Lewis put on a masterclass from the front 

 

That said, I can see past my preferences, and understand the bigger picture. For the good of the sport, dramatic races are better for the sport than one team/driver dominating, which is why I hope Mercedes's domination ends soon, as it's not doing the sport much good. Something needs to be done to at least give Mercedes consistent competition. My viewing pleasure would not suffer if Red Bull and Ferrari's drivers were in a 4 way battle for the WDC/WCC next year. (D.R would win btw  )

 

So, as you see, you can be a driver fan, and at the same time, also desire an exciting and competitive sport. 

Edited by sennafan24, 26 July 2015 - 02:11.

[BlinkyMcSquinty]

My post while sarcastic, did have a point. How are Mercedes going great lengths to stop their drivers from competing in qualifying. How is "interaction" needed in qualifying ?

Even on race day, there is not much evidence that Mercedes are going to great lengths to stop their drivers from racing each other.

Your post sounds more applicable to 2004.

 

Instead of the drivers actually competing closely on the track, Mercedes do everything possible to turn it more into a time trail between them. You rarely see them close together on track, and during a race, once past the first few laps, always maintain an appreciable gap. And the fact that the team has one strategist tell a lot to me, one person controls two cars, instead of two garages competing against each other.

 

One of the greatest and nastiest rivalries between teammates was Senna and Prost. And they settled lot of their differences in close combat. Even when Vettel and Webber had their little spats, many times it too was resolved by them racing close to each other.

 

Mercedes and Wolff have one and just one goal, a 1 - 2 finish every race. And from the lessons learned from 2014, they are keeping each driver from interacting with each other as much as possible, specially on the track. To confirm my statements, just watch the races.

[sennafan24]

Instead of the drivers actually competing closely on the track, Mercedes do everything possible to turn it more into a time trail between them. You rarely see them close together on track, and during a race, once past the first few laps, always maintain an appreciable gap.

I think that is more related to circumstance.

 

For example, when Lewis was slightly ahead of Nico at Canada and Oz, he always started to push when Nico got close to DRS range. It was crafty race management from the driver, rather than team manipulation. Also, check Austria, when Nico jumped Lewis at the start, Lewis looked very eager to overtake. In fact, it was the safety car that cut that battle short.  

 

A lot of races have also seen one driver be quicker than the other, so there has been little chance for overtaking. Lewis was far too quick to give Nico a sniff at China, Bahrain and Monaco (before the pit gaffe), while Nico was too quick at Austria. Lewis was also stuck behind Seb at Spain, which allowed Nico to pull out a big gap.

 

While I think Mercedes do issue some instructions, I don't think they have as much influence as you make out. 

Edited by sennafan24, 26 July 2015 - 03:24.

[travbrad]

Lewis - Nico - Vettel

 

How many times have these three started in this order this year? Must have broken a record by now. 

 

They've finished in that order A LOT this year too.

[BlinkyMcSquinty]

I think that is more related to circumstance.

 

For example, when Lewis was slightly ahead of Nico at Canada and Oz, he always started to push when Nico got close to DRS range. It was crafty race management from the driver, rather than team manipulation. Also, check Austria, when Nico jumped Lewis at the start, Lewis looked very eager to overtake. In fact, it was the safety car that cut that battle short.  

 

A lot of races have also seen one driver be quicker than the other, so there has been little chance for overtaking. Lewis was far too quick to give Nico a sniff at China, Bahrain and Monaco (before the pit gaffe), while Nico was too quick at Austria. Lewis was also stuck behind Seb at Spain, which allowed Nico to pull out a big gap.

 

While I think Mercedes do issue some instructions, I don't think they have as much influence as you make out. 

 

I never really felt too much under pressure. Nico was quick, but I felt like I always had it under control, and had a bit of time in my pocket. http://www.gpupdate....-under-control/

 

The car is so freaking dominant the team doesn't run it flat-out. Rosberg stated after the race that when he put on his push in Canada, Hamilton was informed and did the same.

 

Just look at how many of the races have played out so far this season. Hamilton establishes a gap, Rosberg follows 3 to 4 seconds behind for the rest of the race. Last season before Spa, everyone was complimenting the team for allowing them to race each other, and there were many instances during that period. But after Spa, that disappeared. Silverstone 2015. Hamilton following the Williams, Rosberg behind. The Mercedes was quicker, once Hamilton cleared them he took off. So Rosberg had pace in hand during that period when they had to follow the Williams, yet he never made himself a threat to Hamilton.

 

One only has to look back in their memory and recall how the races were played out last year and now. Before Spa they raced hard and close, after Spa that disappeared. The cars were identical, there was no profound change in the drivers, the change was that the team made sure they were kept apart as much as possible.

[f1supreme]

I never really felt too much under pressure. Nico was quick, but I felt like I always had it under control, and had a bit of time in my pocket. http://www.gpupdate....-under-control/

 

The car is so freaking dominant the team doesn't run it flat-out. Rosberg stated after the race that when he put on his push in Canada, Hamilton was informed and did the same.

 

Just look at how many of the races have played out so far this season. Hamilton establishes a gap, Rosberg follows 3 to 4 seconds behind for the rest of the race. Last season before Spa, everyone was complimenting the team for allowing them to race each other, and there were many instances during that period. But after Spa, that disappeared. Silverstone 2015. Hamilton following the Williams, Rosberg behind. The Mercedes was quicker, once Hamilton cleared them he took off. So Rosberg had pace in hand during that period when they had to follow the Williams, yet he never made himself a threat to Hamilton.

 

One only has to look back in their memory and recall how the races were played out last year and now. Before Spa they raced hard and close, after Spa that disappeared. The cars were identical, there was no profound change in the drivers, the change was that the team made sure they were kept apart as much as possible.

because last season you could overtake alot easier.this season,just being ahead is usually enough to stay ahead,so no need to push harder than needed.just keep the gap safe enough,and look after the engine.

[lewymp4]

The rest of us hope you are disappointed.

I'm sad to say that I was very disappointed.