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[Marklar]

After we already have our dream F1 teams it is time to do the same for the grid.

Which is your all time dream F1 grid? Including drivers and teams?

Im recommending at least 10 teams a 2 drivers. But do it like you want to ;)

Edited by Marklar, 13 August 2015 - 16:55.

[noikeee]

This was the best I could do in 15 minutes. I tried to fit all drivers into teams they actually drove for, but at the end had to put the 3 Finnish guys in the 3 available slots (Raikkonen, Hakkinen and Rosberg are the only I put into teams they never drove for, unless I missed something):

 

Ferrari: Alberto Ascari / Gilles Villeneuve

McLaren: Ayrton Senna / James Hunt

Williams: Nigel Mansell / Alain Jones

Lotus: Jim Clark / Emerson Fittipaldi

Brabham: Nelson Piquet / Keke Rosberg

Renault: Alain Prost / Fernando Alonso

Mercedes: Stirling Moss / Lewis Hamilton

Tyrrell: Jackie Stewart / Jody Scheckter

Benetton: Michael Schumacher / Mika Hakkinen

Cooper: Jochen Rindt / Jack Brabham

Red Bull: Sebastian Vettel / Kimi Raikkonen

March: Niki Lauda / Ronnie Peterson

Alfa Romeo: Juan Manuel Fangio / Nino Farina

 

Few notes:

- picked 13 teams as that's the maximum a grid should hold. Not necessarily the most competitive ones ever, but it's thereabouts. March's a bit random but fits the drivers.

- Sorry for Graham Hill, Mario Andretti and possibly someone else I'm forgetting but you have to cut off at some point. Dad Hill possibly was better than a few on this grid but I was a little biased for drivers I sympathise with, like Raikkonen.

- Not sure if I'm correct but I believe Vettel/Kimi, Lauda/Peterson, Fangio/Farina are the only duos on this list who actually drove as team-mates.

- Lotus represents the Colin Chapman team, and Renault represents the 1970s/1980s French team not the Enstone team who is in the list as Benetton - even if Alonso drove for the Enstone team in real life.

- Jack Brabham drives vs his own team!

- I reckon the spiciest duo is Schumacher-Hakkinen, and the strongest possibly Prost-Alonso.. not sure who would win that one. Mansell-Jones under typical 80s Williams management has every chance to end in a horrible meltdown of egos, too. Wonder how Senna and Hunt would get along, too. 

- In the mid of all this my money's on Jim Clark quietly winning the championship with everyone else too entertained with politics and internal fights! I'd pay to watch this season!

Edited by noikeee, 13 August 2015 - 16:08.

[Dan333SP]

So just 20 people to fill out the grid? Does it matter who is teamed with who? I think this will basically be just a list of the "top 20 drivers". Anyway, here's mine

 

Lotus-Cosworth

 

Michael Schumacher

Jim Clark

 

Williams-BMW

 

Ayrton Senna

Fernando Alonso

 

Mercedes

 

Alain Prost

JM Fangio

 

Renault

 

Jochen Rindt

Gilles Villeneuve

 

Jaguar

 

Mario Andretti

Alberto Ascari

 

Alfa Romeo

 

Lewis Hamilton

Sebastian Vettel

 

Mclaren

 

Niki Lauda

Mika Hakkinen

 

BRM

 

Emmo Fittipaldi

Stirling Moss

 

Tyrell

 

Jackie Stewart

John Surtees

 

Ferrari (less rational, more personal)

 

Dan Ricciardo

Jean Alesi

Edited by Dan333SP, 13 August 2015 - 15:58.

[Marklar]

So just 20 people to fill out the grid? Does it matter who is teamed with who? I think this will basically be just a list of the "top 20 drivers". Anyway, here's mine
 
Lotus-Cosworth
 
Michael Schumacher
Jim Clark
 
Williams-BMW
 
Ayrton Senna
Fernando Alonso
 
Mercedes
 
Alain Prost
JM Fangio
 
Renault
 
Jochen Rindt
Gilles Villeneuve
 
Jaguar
 
Mario Andretti
Alberto Ascari
 
Alfa Romeo
 
Lewis Hamilton
Sebastian Vettel
 
Mclaren
 
Niki Lauda
Mika Hakkinen
 
BRM
 
Emmo Fittipaldi
Stirling Moss
 
Tyrell
 
Jackie Stewart
John Surtees
 
Ferrari (less rational, more personal)
 
Dan Ricciardo
Jean Alesi

At least 20 drivers (10 teams). So more are possible ;)

Some people are choosing the best drivers and try to fit them. Some others want certain driver pairings at certain teams. Like you want ;)

[Amin]

I cheated a bit. 8 teams with 3 cars plus a one car entry from Red Bull for Vettel.

 

Ferrari        Michael Schumacher/Alberto Ascari/Gilles Villeneuve

McLaren     Ayrton Senna/Mika Hakkinen/Kimi Raikkonen

Williams      Alan Jones/Nigel Mansell/Keke Rosberg

Lotus          Jim Clark/Jochen Rindt/Mario Andretti

Mercedes   Juan Manuel Fangio/Stirling Moss/Lewis Hamilton

Renault      Alain Prost/Fernando Alonso/Rene Arnoux

Tyrrell        Jackie Stewart/Jody Scheckter/Stefan Bellof

Brabham    Jack Brabham/Nelson Piquet/Denny Hulme

Red Bull     Sebastian Vettel

Edited by Amin, 13 August 2015 - 16:22.

[Marklar]

 

I cheated a bit. 8 teams with 3 cars plus a one car entry from Red Bull for Vettel.

 

Ferrari        Michael Schumacher/Alberto Ascari/Gilles Villeneuve

McLaren     Ayrton Senna/Mika Hakkinen/Kimi Raikkonen

Williams      Alan Jones/Nigel Mansell/Keke Rosberg

Lotus          Jim Clark/Jochen Rindt/Mario Andretti

Mercedes   Juan Manuel Fangio/Stirling Moss/Lewis Hamilton

Renault      Alain Prost/Fernando Alonso/Rene Arnoux

Tyrrell        Jackie Stewart/Jody Scheckter/Stefan Bellof

Brabham    Jack Brabham/Nelson Piquet/Denny Hulme

Red Bull     Sebastian Vettel

 

Cheating is always allowed 

[SonJR]

Ferrari: Michael Schumacher, Gilles Villeneuve

Alfa Romeo: Niki Lauda, Juan Fangio

McLaren: Ayrton Senna, Lewis Hamilton

Williams: Alain Prost, Keke Rosberg

Mercedes: Mika Hakkinen, Nico Rosberg

Renault: Fernando Alonso, Jackie Stewart

Lotus: Nigel Mansell, Jim Clark

Brabham: Stirling Moss, Jack Brabham

Red Bull: Sebastian Vettel, Ronnie Peterson

Honda: Stefan Bellof, Jenson Button

 

Including mid grid and backmarker teams: 

 

Ferrari: Michael Schumacher, Niki Lauda

McLaren: Ayrton Senna, Alain Prost

Williams: Jim Clark, Jack Brabham

Mercedes: Sebastian Vettel, Juan Fangio

 

Ligier: Jacques Lafitte, Jean Alesi

Tyrrell: Martin Brundle, Jenson Button

Jordan: Eddie Irvine, Nico Hülkenberg

Sauber: Ronnie Peterson, Nick Heidfeld

 

Minardi: Jos Verstappen, Fernando Alonso (2001 spec)

Footwork: Eddie Cheever, Takuma Sato

[redraven9]

Ferrari: Fernando Alonso / Niki Lauda

McLaren: Lewis Hamilton / Nigel Mansell

Williams: Ayrton Senna / Jenson Button

Lotus: Mika Hakkinen / Nelson Pique

Renault: Alain Prost / Sebastian Vettel

Mercedes: Michael Schumacher / Jules Bianchi

Red Bull: Daniel Ricciardo / Max Verstappen

Honda: Nico Hülkenberg / Jim Clark

Alfa Romeo: Juan Manuel Fangio / Gilles Villeneuve

 

Era: 2004 (V10, refuelling, two tyres)

[Lemans]

I've got a few 'Dream' scenarios in my head so I'll start with this one:

 

Car: McLaren MP4/4

Engine: 1986 Honda RA166-E

Drivers: Ayrton Senna and Gilles Villenueve

[Jimisgod]

Bringing back the importance of qualifying with 14 teams and 28 drivers competing for 26 spots.

 

Ferrari (Ferrari) - A. Prost / G. Villeneuve

McLaren (Mercedes) - A. Senna / M. Hakkinen

Williams (BMW) - L. Hamilton / J. Button

Team Lotus (Ford-Cosworth) - J. Clark / R. Peterson

Red Bull (Renault) - S. Vettel / D. Ricciardo

Mercedes (Mercedes) - J. M. Fangio / S. Moss

Brabham (BMW) - J. Brabham / N. Lauda

Renault (Renault) - F. Alonso / E. Fittipaldi

Benetton (Renault) - M. Schumacher / N. Piquet

Tyrrell (Ford-Cosworth) - J. Stewart / C. Reutemann

Alfa Romeo (Alfa Romeo) - A. Ascari / J. Rindt

BRM (Ford-Cosworth) - G. Hill / T. Brooks

Ligier (Ferrari) - K. Rosberg / K. Raikkonen

Minardi (Alfa Romeo) K. Kobayashi / N. Hulkenberg

 

2004 level V10 engines in as close as you can get to late-80s cars with safety improvements. The engines (Ferrari, Ford, Mercedes, BMW, Renault and Alfa Romeo) are pretty equally matched.

Edited by Jimisgod, 13 August 2015 - 17:53.

[HeadFirst]

Gilles and Jacques V for Scuderia Ferrari. Kinda like the Andretti father/son team in CART.

[Atreiu]

McLaren Honda - Senna, Hakkinen
Mercedes - Hamilton, Fangio
Ferrari - Schumacher, Lauda
Renault - Prost, Alonso (greatest potential for drama)
Brabham BMW - Piquet, Brabham
Benetton Cosworth - Berger, Alboreto
Lotus Renault - Clark, E. Fittipaldi
Tyrell Cosworth - Stewart, Alesi
Red Bull Renault - Vettel, Raikkonen
Williams Renault - D. Hill, J. Villeneuve
BAR Honda - Button, Hunt
Sauber Ferrari - Massa, Alboreto
Minardi Cosworth - Ascari, Bellof

Cars to match specs of 1986.

Calendar:
01 - Interlagos, current layout;
02 - Istambul
03 - Imola, pre 1994 layout
04 - Monaco
05 - Montreal, current layout
06 - COTA
07 - Paul Ricard, 1985 layout
08 - Silverstone, 1985 layout
09 - Hockenheim, 1991 layout
10 - Hungaroring, current layout
11 - Spa, 1991 layout
12 - Zandvoort, 1985 layout
13 - Monza, current layout
14 - Singapore
15 - S Korea, Yeongam
16 - Suzuka
17 - Adelaide

Edited by Atreiu, 15 August 2015 - 14:48.

[mclarensmps]

1. McLaren-Mercedes: Mika Hakkinen, Alain Prost

2. Ferrari: Michael Schumacher, Gilles Villeneuve

3. Mercedes-Benz: JM Fangio, Stirling Moss

4. Lotus-Cosworth: James Hunt, Niki Lauda

5. Williams-Renault: Nigel Mansell, Damon Hill

6. Benetton-Renault: Lewis Hamilton, Jenson Button

7. Tyrell-Honda: Ayrton Senna, Fernando Alonso

8. Brabham-Cosworth: Sebastian Vettel, Jack Brabham

9. Alfa Romeo-Ferrari: Nelson Piquet, Alberto Ascari

10. Ford-Cosworth: Jackie Stewart, Mario Andretti

11. Minardi-Meccachrome: Taki Inoue, Gaston Mazzacane

 

[Volcano70]

Mastercard Lola- Luca Badoer/Narain Karthikeyan

Super Aguri- Yuji Ide/ Shinji Nakano

Andrea Moda- Zsolt Bumgardner/Jean Deniz-Deltraz

Coloni- Andrea De Cesaris/Nicholas Kiesa

Simtek- Pedro Diniz/Tomas Enge

Pacific- Tora Takagi/Mimmo Schiattarella

Midland- Patrick Frieshacher/Ralph Firman

Spyker- Gaston Mazzacane/Sakon Yamamoto

Forti- Esteban Tuero/Norberto Fontana

HRT- Antonio Pizzonia/Luciano Burti

Cateram- Gianmaria Bruni/Naoki Hattori

Scuerdia Italia- Gabriele Tarquini/Giovani Lavaggi

Life- Taki Inoue/Vincenzo Sospri

Prost- Ricardo Rosset/Tomas Enge

 

Edited: Moved Rosset from Pacific to newly added Prost team, Added Enge @ Prost, mimmo @ Pacific

Edited by Volcano70, 13 August 2015 - 23:26.

[mclarensmps]

 

Life- Taki Inoue/Vincenzo Sospri

 

 

Honestly, though, I would watch the hell out of that series. It sounds absolutely magnificent. Super Aguri would walk it.

[Volcano70]

 

Honestly, though, I would watch the hell out of that series. It sounds absolutely magnificent. Super Aguri would walk it.

Originally it was Inoue/Baumgardner at Andrea Moda until Deltraz came into play, then i remembered Sospri so i shoved him into the Life...

HOW COULD WE FORGET THE TRACKS?

I don't feel like making a schedule atm, so these tracks I will dot down.

Tracks for the series:

Ceasers Palace

Dallas

Macau

Okayama

New Jersey

Cancun!

AVUS (with banking)

Monza double Circuit (oval and rc)

Phoenix

San Jose 2005

Spa with the Eau-Rouge chicane

I'll edit more in when they come to me.

[lars75]

Well I can give you 20 drivers I want to see on the all time grid in whatever order! (could come up with more but I won't)

 

Montoya, Zanardi, G. Villeneuve, J. Villeneuve, Irvine, Raikkonen, Verstappen sr, Verstappen jr, Schumacher, Vettel, Hamilton, Hunt, Lauda, Piquet sr, Ayrton Senna (the uncle one), Ickx, Fangio, Stewart, Ascari, Kubica

 

Teams:

 

Ferrari, McLaren, Williams, Tyrell, Jordan, Minardi, Lotus (the old bunch), BRM, Benneton, RedBull

 

Tracks:

Watkins Glen, Kyalami, Spa, Monaco, Monza, Silverstone, Nordschleiffe, Old Hockenheim, Suzuka, Interlagos, Montreal, Melbourne, A1 Ring, Laguna Seca, Indy oval, Road America, LeMans (the long track) would all be in there for me.

Edited by lars75, 15 August 2015 - 13:43.

[Afterburner]

Mastercard Lola- Luca Badoer/Narain Karthikeyan
Super Aguri- Yuji Ide/ Shinji Nakano
Andrea Moda- Zsolt Bumgardner/Jean Deniz-Deltraz
Coloni- Andrea De Cesaris/Nicholas Kiesa
Simtek- Pedro Diniz/Tomas Enge
Pacific- Tora Takagi/Mimmo Schiattarella
Midland- Patrick Frieshacher/Ralph Firman
Spyker- Gaston Mazzacane/Sakon Yamamoto
Forti- Esteban Tuero/Norberto Fontana
HRT- Antonio Pizzonia/Luciano Burti
Cateram- Gianmaria Bruni/Naoki Hattori
Scuerdia Italia- Gabriele Tarquini/Giovani Lavaggi
Life- Taki Inoue/Vincenzo Sospri
Prost- Ricardo Rosset/Tomas Enge

Edited: Moved Rosset from Pacific to newly added Prost team, Added Enge @ Prost, mimmo @ Pacific

Taki's teammate needs to be DRACONE for maximum levels of hilarity.

I would totally watch this, though, maybe even more so than the collection of best-ever lists. It would make today's Indycar field look as if it were full of Michael Schumachers.

Speaking of Schumi, no-one's put him and Vettel on a team together yet?

Edited by Afterburner, 15 August 2015 - 22:50.

[Atreiu]

How about this. Cars to 1990 spec/performance, imagining these teams and engine makers were all there.

McLaren Honda - Senna
McLaren Mercedes - Hakkinen, Raikkonen
McLaren TAG - Prost
Ferrari - Lauda, G. Villeneuve
Williams Honda - Rosberg
Williams Renault - D. Hill, J. Villeneuve
Sauber Ferrari - Massa, Alboreto
Red Bull Renault - Vettel, Hunt
Renault - Alonso, Arnoux
Brabham BMW - Brabham, Piquet
Tyrell Honda - Alesi, Stewart
Lotus Renault - Clark, G Hill, E Fittipaldi
Benetton Cosworth - Schumacher, Berger
Mercedes - Fangio, Hamilton
Minardi Cosworth - Martini, Alboreto

Edited by Atreiu, 15 August 2015 - 20:44.

[lars75]

How about this. Cars to 1990 spec/performance, imagining these teams and engine makers were all there.

 

McLaren Honda - Senna

McLarren Mercedes - Hakkinen, Raikkonen

McLaren TAG - Prost

Ferrari - Lauda, G. Villeneuve

Williams Honda - Rosberg

Williams Renault - D. Hill, J. Villeneuve

Sauber Ferrari - Massa, Alboreto

Red Bull Renault - Vettel, Hunt

Renault - Alonso, Arnoux

Brabham BMW - Brabham, Piquet

Tyrell Honda - Alesi, Stewart

Lotus Renault - Clark, G Hill, E Fittipaldi

Benetton - Schumacher, Berger

Mercedes - Fangio, Hamilton

Minardi - Martini, Alboreto

 

Well depends on wich Rosberg :-)

And D. Hill and Massa??? Damn I hope your not serious 

[Atreiu]

Totally.

[Volcano70]

Dracone can split the testing role with Chanoch Nissany.....