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[Nonesuch]

 

Sixth win of the season for Hamilton, Rosberg second yet again - and Grosjean on the podium for the first time this year.

 

As always, please rate the race objectively and not based on your favourite driver's result!

 

Don't forget to also mention your ...
 
Best Driver:
Worst Driver:
Best Team:
Best Overtake:
Best Moment:
DRS + Tyres:

And the race in a sentence:

 

[Vesuvius]

Gave a 7
Best Driver: Romain Grosjean
Worst Driver: Difficult to say, maybe Hulkenberg.
Best Team: Mercedes
Best Overtake:Kimi on the lap one from Manor at eau rouge.
Best Moment:was there any?
DRS + Tyres:tyres seemed to last well, except for Vettel. They are made too hard.
And the race in a sentence: quite a boring race, overtakes were done with DRS...excpected better from Spa.mercedes dominance made it even boring.

Edited by Vesuvius, 23 August 2015 - 16:07.

[Atreiu]

6.

DRS was too effective and nobody had to try to overtake elsewhere.

[Marklar]

Best Driver: Grosjean
Worst Driver: Bottas
Best Team: Mercedes
Best Overtake: verstappen on nasr
Best Moment: start
DRS + Tyres: DRS is too effective, we dont need to talk about the tyres...
And the race in a sentence: A hyped start, a decent race and a explosive end

Edited by Marklar, 23 August 2015 - 16:30.

[JosD]

Best Driver: Grosjean
Worst Driver: -
Best Team: I would say Lotus, especially thinking of all the financial issues that are plaguing the team
Best Overtake: Verstappen at Blanchimont and than the bus stop on Nasr
Best Moment: Grosjean talking third position following bad luck for Vettel, he and Lotus really deserved this result
DRS + Tyres: Few overtakes without DRS, although the tyres brought some interesting moments (Bottas and Vettel)

And the race in a sentence: Overall good race, but very few drivers seem to be able to pass others without DRS.

 

7/10

[GTRacer]

I gave it a 4 because I felt the DRS was way too powerful & I just don't enjoy watching the sort of easy highway pass which the majority of the passes today were.

 

Still think there are some circuits & certainly some straights where DRS is completely unnecisary & just makes things far too easy.

[redraven9]

Gave a 7
Best Driver: Romain Grosjean
Worst Driver: Difficult to say, maybe Hulkenberg.
Best Team: Mercedes
Best Overtake:Kimi on the lap one from Manor at eau rouge.
Best Moment:was there any?
DRS + Tyres:tyres seemed to last well, except for Vettel. They are made too hard.
And the race in a sentence: quite a boring race, overtakes were done with DRS...excpected better from Spa.mercedes dominance made it even boring.

Are you serious?

[redraven9]

Best Driver: Romain Grosjean
Worst Driver: Nico Rosberg
Best Team: Mercedes
Best Overtake: Verstappen on Nasr
Best Moment: Grosjean on podium
And the race in a sentence: Standard race, nothing special.

[cpbell]

7/10.  Not the best race of the year, but enough interest to maintain attention.

 

Best driver:  Grosjean, with Perez, Kyvat, Hamilton and, arguably Verstappen in contention.

Worst driver:  No-one really stood out.  Massa was perhaps a bit anonymous, and Rosberg was unable to really push Hamilton, but there were no bad drives.

Best team:  Mercedes were dominant as usual - hard to see past them.

Worst team (not requested, I know):  Williams for pulling the "dodgy back street garage" move fitting mismatched tyres to Bottas' car.

Best overtake:  Verstappen on Nasr at Blanchimont.

Best moment:  Everyone getting round La Source on the first lap without any coming-together.

DRS & tyres:  DRS zone is too long at Spa, as cars are often fully-past by the braking zone.  Tyres OK other than Vettel's worrying failure.

Race in a sentence:  Welcome return to form for Grosjean; Hamilton continuing his pre-eminence, and Ferrari somewhat disappointing.

[cpbell]

Are you serious?

 

Indeed - he hardly had a chance to do anything good or otherwise.

[scheivlak]

Best Driver: Romain Grosjean
Worst Driver: No one, but I expected more from both Finns
Best Team: clearly Mercedes
Best Overtake: Max on Nasr, quite breathtaking. Yes, he was off track for a moment, but he was forced to - and saved it brilliantly.
Best Moment: that one plus seeing that Vettel came away unscathed
DRS + Tyres: DRS too strong, maybe not needed at all at the Kemmel straight. I think Vettel may have a point about those Pirellis as the failure came without a warning.

And the race in a sentence: Always great to have a race in Spa, the most beautiful track on the calendar. A pity about the long DRS zone.

 

7/10

Edited by scheivlak, 23 August 2015 - 16:27.

[HeadFirst]

Best Driver: Romain Grosjean
Worst Driver:
Best Team: Mercedes

Worst Team: Williams
Best Overtake: Nothing stunning, so maybe Perez on Nico off the line.
Best Moment: Grosjean on the podium
DRS + Tyres:
And the race in a sentence: Some good drives from Grosjean and Kvyat, overshadowed a faultless effort by Hamilton.

[Tourgott]

Awful boring once again. Sebastian's tire failure was the only interesting thing in this race.

1/10.

[djonas79]

Best driver: Grosjean, no contest

Worst driver: Raikkonen, poor again

Best team: Lotus (Mercedes would be the correct answer, but based on the car's capabilities, it's Lotus)

Best overtake: Verstappen on Nasr perhaps...

Best moment: the last 2 laps

Race in sentence: could have been better, but not as bad as many says. The battle for 3rd was quite interesting.

[A3]

Awful boring once again. Sebastian's tire failure was the only interesting thing in this race.
1/10.

It's much more interesting to follow more than just the top 3.

Edited by A3, 23 August 2015 - 16:52.

[CHIUNDA]

Best Driver: Max Verstappen
Worst Driver: Button - for talking too much
Best Team: Lotus
Best Overtake: Verstappen on Kimi even if it was just for a couple of car lengths
Best Moment: Lewis questioning how Nico had closed the gap to 1.8 seconds during the VSC period
DRS + Tyres: Okay I guess - did what it was supposed to do

And the race in a sentence: I was hoping McLaren had really made some progress and that the century grid penalties were worth something but ..

[superden]

5/10

Best Driver: Grosjean
Worst Driver: None really
Best Team: Mercedes
Best Overtake: Lap 1, Raikkonen on Stevens
Best Moment: The start
DRS + Tyres: Yes, both were in use

And the race in a sentence: Even beautuful Spa struggles to make current F1 look good, were it not for DRS overtaking would have been nonexistent and before anyone mentions it, Verstappen's overtake really wasn't that great and just highlights one of the major problems in modern F1.

Edited by superden, 23 August 2015 - 17:20.

[P123]

Best Driver: Grosjean
Worst Driver: Bottas
Best Team: Mercedes
Best Overtake: verstappen on nasr
Best Moment: start
DRS + Tyres: DRS is too effective, we dont need to talk about the tyres...
And the race in a sentence: A hyped start, a decent race and a explosive end

What Marklar said.

Oh, and 6.5/10- typical dry Spa race...

[Nonesuch]

Best Driver: Kvyat, Grosjean, Vettel and Pérez all impressed.
Worst Driver: Räikkönen. Didn't make any impression once he caught up to the midfield.
Best Team: Mercedes, unquestionably. Dominant and faultless performance.
Best Overtake: Kvyat on Massa was on the limit, but nicely done!
Best Moment: Hamilton pulling a significant gap to Rosberg after getting irritated during the VSC.
DRS + Tyres: DRS is a farce under the best of circumstances. It was much worse here. The tyres are horrible, but the teams should know that by now. They wanted this.

And the race in a sentence: Rather unexciting walkover for Mercedes at a great track. The TV director seemed to notice, and served up some fantastic shots that made up for the race being far from a classic.

 

Rated it 5/10.

Edited by Nonesuch, 23 August 2015 - 17:55.

[AustinF1]

Gave a 7
Best Driver: Romain Grosjean
Worst Driver: Difficult to say, maybe Hulkenberg.
Best Team: Mercedes
Best Overtake:Kimi on the lap one from Manor at eau rouge.
Best Moment:was there any?
DRS + Tyres:tyres seemed to last well, except for Vettel. They are made too hard.
And the race in a sentence: quite a boring race, overtakes were done with DRS...excpected better from Spa.mercedes dominance made it even boring.

How could Hulkenburg be the worst driver when he never even got to drive?

 

Race Rating: 5

 

Meh. Very little happened.

Edited by AustinF1, 23 August 2015 - 17:52.

[ANF]

Best Moment: The start was great with the less perfected clutch settings
Worst Moment: Any of the countless simple DRS passes down Kemmel Straight
Best Overtake: Kvyat on Massa (DRS vs DRS, I believe, and a nice piece of late braking)
5/10 – I was about to give it a 4, but then there was some action on the last couple of laps

Edited by ANF, 23 August 2015 - 18:08.

[Lotus53B]

Best Driver: For me, Romain Grosjean has to take this crown, but there were so many distinguished entries - Max, Sergio, Sebastian

Worst Driver: I don't like this category. No-one did anything really egregious, but Seb could have driven better after his tyre exploded

Best Team: Mercedes. 1, 2. Efficient, well practiced, they used strategy to get Nico back to 2nd, maximum points.

Best Overtake: Verstappen/Nasr? Kyvat/Massa?

Best Moment: The inadvertent, and possibly incorrect, message from Mercedes saying that they'd turned down both engines, which would be illegal under current regs.

DRS + Tyres: DRS a wee bit of an open goal. Tyres? Ask Sebastien.


And the race in a sentence: A race devoid of waffle where Mercedes showed their mussels.

Edited by Lotus53B, 23 August 2015 - 18:43.

[Kristian]

3. Given that I was at les combes and fell asleep mid race, I'm giving it a low score!

[kvyatfan]

Best Driver: Grosjean, Kvyat, Vettel and, Hamilton. Vettel's tyres were team decision, I think.
Worst Driver: Don't know, maybe Bottas.
Best Team: Mercedes.
Best Overtake: Kvyat's pass on Massa amidst a big run.
Best Moment: Kvyat's run, Verstappen's efforts, and Grosjean..
DRS + Tyres: u wot m8

And the race in a sentence: Tyres, tyres, bobyres, banana, fana fofyres.

 

Rated it 5/10.

[Vesuvius]

Are you serious?

Yes, must see the weekend as a whole picture and Hulkenberg couldn't match Perez this weekend.

[Vesuvius]

How could Hulkenburg be the worst driver when he never even got to drive?

Race Rating: 5

Meh. Very little happened.

Not on the race but this weekend Perez was better.None of the drivers were that bad this weekend so had to name one and it was Hulkenberg. Can't believe some say Bottas, who did nothing wrong.

[SR388]

3. Given that I was at les combes and fell asleep mid race, I'm giving it a low score!

Too much day drinking, imo.

[rf90]

Comparing to MotoGP and BSB, I find it hard to get all excited about F1 nowadays, and this race wasn't exactly riveting was it. A 5 from me but I did struggle to keep awake. I'm finding lately that I don't really get worried if I miss a F1 race, and that from someone who has been passionate about car racing, especially F1, over the years. It's all so tame and predictable now.

[travbrad]

I can't rate the race because I can't stay within the poll limits.

[AustinF1]

...

Worst Driver: I don't like this category. No-one did anything really egregious, but Seb could have driven better after his tyre exploded
 

Indeed. He had me yelling at my tv.

[AustinF1]

Comparing to MotoGP and BSB, I find it hard to get all excited about F1 nowadays, and this race wasn't exactly riveting was it. A 5 from me but I did struggle to keep awake. I'm finding lately that I don't really get worried if I miss a F1 race, and that from someone who has been passionate about car racing, especially F1, over the years. It's all so tame and predictable now.

This is exactly what I've been noticing as well.

[BlinkyMcSquinty]

7

 

The battle for the win between the Mercedes drivers was flaccid and predictable, Grosjean drove a great race, and the battle for 5th was epic.

 

Severe disappointment for the 4 drivers who retired, they didn't screw up, their cars failed them. A moral victory for McLaren, both drivers just one lap down, and they both were running at the end.

 

The manual start/clutch thingy was a non-issue apart from Rosberg who managed to pooch it up.

 

Verstappen displayed the impetuousness of youth, and Bottas was disappointing.

 

A special shout out for the track itself, grand, majestic, and a joy to see so many spectators sitting at the sides of the track and the majesty of such a setting.

[CHIUNDA]

3. Given that I was at les combes and fell asleep mid race, I'm giving it a low score!

You must have drunk too much water

[ViMaMo]

Given that there is a lot of bhp deficit between Mercedes and non Mercedes powered teams, DRS was miscalculated for Spa but maybe it will be set right for other races. 

[fastest]

Best Driver: Max
Worst Driver: Kimi/Massa
Best Team: Mercedes
Best Overtake: Max
Best Moment: Max overtake on Nasr, no debate on that one
DRS + Tyres: ask Vettel

And the race in a sentence: Max brought the fireworks yet once again, as he's been doing all season.

Edited by fastest, 24 August 2015 - 03:28.

[surbjits]

-infinity. Boring race yawn, this season needs to end asap, far too predictable.

[surbjits]

This is exactly what I've been noticing as well.

Same. If I wake up on time I'll flip it on otherwise it's meh don't care if I miss it lol

[MasterOfCoin]

5/10

Best Driver: Grosjean
Worst Driver: None really
Best Team: Mercedes
Best Overtake: Lap 1, Raikkonen on Stevens
Best Moment: The start
DRS + Tyres: Yes, both were in use

And the race in a sentence: Even beautuful Spa struggles to make current F1 look good, were it not for DRS overtaking would have been nonexistent and before anyone mentions it, Verstappen's overtake really wasn't that great and just highlights one of the major problems in modern F1.

This is what i don't get, some fans think life without DRS will make the racing so much better, maybe they enjoy pitlane passing than actual overtaking.

[AustinF1]

A special shout out for the track itself, grand, majestic, and a joy to see so many spectators sitting at the sides of the track and the majesty of such a setting.

 

Yep. It was an awesome crowd. Every general admission area was packed. Very impressive. 

[Tourgott]

This is what i don't get, some fans think life without DRS will make the racing so much better, maybe they enjoy pitlane passing than actual overtaking.

 

Actual overtaking? You're calling this fake-push-a-button-drive-by-BS an actual overtake? Seriously? That's sad.

[FenderJaguar]

All I really want to say about this race are things like "I hate Mercedes" but the rest of the race wasn't that good either. How are Mercedes cheating or why can't the other teams come closer. It is f-ing terrible to sit and watch a great race like Spa be this dull.

I gave it a 3.

 

Best Driver: Grosjean had a good race
Worst Driver: what is his name again? Maldonado. Always Maldonado.
Best Team: Mercedes, Maldonado could win in a Mercedes
Best Overtake: Verstappen made a nice move on the outside of Blanchimont
Best Moment: it was when I started thinking of old races at Spa that were much better

Edited by FenderJaguar, 24 August 2015 - 07:20.

[Laster]

Best Driver: Grosjean, was best of the rest in a tight midfield battle.
Worst Driver: No one really stood out as terrible, even Maldonado was having a decent weekend before his engine died.
Best Team: Lotus, even with the possibility of their cars not leaving the race track the race team knuckled down and got an excellent finish.
Best Overtake: Nothing really stood out, DRS made things a touch too easy this weekend.
Best Moment: The start and seeing a much wider variety of good and bad starts than in previous Grand Prixs.
DRS + Tyres: DRS made overtaking a little too easy.
And the race in a sentence: Decent race, no battle for the lead, but the battle for best of the race was close fought and very entertaining.

[Nonesuch]

This is what i don't get, some fans think life without DRS will make the racing so much better, maybe they enjoy pitlane passing than actual overtaking.

 

There won't be a lot of racing when the faster car is in front of the slower car. There also won't be a lot of racing when the faster car can breeze past the slower car with DRS.

 

Without DRS, the faster car will offer us viewers far more racing because it will attempt to pass the slower car for a longer period of time, and at different points of the track.

 

But this has been discussed so often before, the pros and cons are well known, and it's unlikely that those who still like DRS will, after almost five full seasons of its use, suddenly change their minds.

[Fisico54]

Yes, must see the weekend as a whole picture and Hulkenberg couldn't match Perez this weekend.

How do you work that out ?
FP1 Perez ahead by 1 1/2 tenths
FP2 Hulk ahead by 2 tenths
FP3 Perez by 2 tenths
Quali Hulk had an engine problem. Fact as confirmed by the team
Race Hulks engine fails on the way to the grid.
Evenly matched really.

[Jon83]

Best Driver: Grosjean but mentions for Hamilton and Kimi
Worst Driver: None
Best Team: Lotus or Red Bull
Best Overtake: VES on NASR
Best Moment: Nothing stood out
DRS + Tyres: DRS is too powerful on the Kemmel straight. It isn't needed.

And the race in a sentence: Pretty boring. Mercedes miles ahead of everyone.

[Jon83]

Yes, must see the weekend as a whole picture and Hulkenberg couldn't match Perez this weekend.

 

That's nuts. We simply do not have the data to make any sort of informed decision on that.

 

Hulk didn't race FFS.

[itsgreen84]

I was in Les Combes and thoroughly enjoyed myself

[BlinkyMcSquinty]

Actual overtaking? You're calling this fake-push-a-button-drive-by-BS an actual overtake? Seriously? That's sad.

 

Have you contemplated what the race would have been like if there was no DRS? There would have been one long train, and everyone would have pitted in response to the others and no change of positions. With the exception of Max, the only exciting moments would have been pit stop undercuts. Instead, when a faster car did come up on a slower car, he got past in just a few laps. In every case I witnessed, the car that managed to get past quickly distanced themselves from they car they passed.

 

You can have it only one of two ways, there is no grey area in between. Either no DRS and a train and boredom, or relatively easy passing. But with DRS at least the driver/cars finish in their order of merit.

 

Sure, it looked simple and effortless, but last time I checked, blasting up through Eau Rouge on the tail of another car, getting past them at over 200 MPH and then braking hard for Les Combes isn't for the faint of heart. 

[SealTheDiffuser]

4

(7? seriously?)

 

Best Driver: HAM
Worst Driver: MAL (
Best Team: MERC
Best Overtake: KVY on MAS
Best Moment: no best moment
DRS + Tyres: DRS mmm Tyres eternally sh'tty

And the race in a sentence: zzzzz booom weeee

Edited by SealTheDiffuser, 24 August 2015 - 12:07.

[Tourgott]

You can have it only one of two ways, there is no grey area in between. Either no DRS and a train and boredom, or relatively easy passing. But with DRS at least the driver/cars finish in their order of merit.

 

Wait a second. Actually I'm pretty sure there's a third way...

 

 

Even without the actual overtake, such battles were 1000 times more exciting than this boring DRS fake overtaking crap we have today.