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#901 kedia990

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Posted 06 September 2015 - 18:45

Rob Smedley:

 

"It doesn't matter what it is," said Smedley. "If it's 0.3 or minus 10. When you have a technical regulation, you have to stick to that technical regulation.

"With wings we measure them and we get them to within half a millimeter of the regulations, but they are half a millimeter within, we don't go outside the technical regulations.

"And if we did go outside and we were caught going outside then we would be disqualified.

"There's a technical regulation and that's in place in order that you don't infringe it.

"So where do you go with wings? What do you do with car heights? What do you with your power units? Is it alright a bit, but it's not alright a lot?

"We all abide by that technical regulation. If we all added a little bit then all of our cars would be two seconds quicker.

"If I took a little bit in every single area of the car, the car would be two seconds quicker, so we don't take a little bit anywhere.

"There's a technical regulation and they've infringed the technical regulation. End of story."

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Fernando.is.faster.than.you. Can you confirm you understood the message?

 

Smedley and Symonds are at least two people who should be barred from talking or otherwise contributing in any shape or form on subjects involving cheating.



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#902 Ricardo F1

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Posted 06 September 2015 - 18:47

As the bbc reported there was a second in laptimes when Hamilton went hammer time so there was no chance of a ferrari one/two in qualifying 

Well to be fair Ferrari turned it up to 11 for qualifying, different circumstances, they didn't run the race on that setting.



#903 Seanspeed

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Posted 06 September 2015 - 19:28

Fernando.is.faster.than.you. Can you confirm you understood the message?
 
Smedley and Symonds are at least two people who should be barred from talking or otherwise contributing in any shape or form on subjects involving cheating.

Sporting regulations vs technical regulations. Smedley was also just following orders.

Edited by Seanspeed, 06 September 2015 - 19:29.


#904 ThisIsMischaW

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Posted 06 September 2015 - 19:31

Technical regulations have been broken in the past and the FIA has managed to twist things so no disqualifications happen. Anyone who has watched the sport for a decent length of time, or worked in it like Smedley has for a number of years, should be aware of this.

 

Not that I disagree that technical regulations should be sacrosanct and never bent, but the history of the sport shows this happens quite a lot.  



#905 kedia990

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Posted 06 September 2015 - 19:56

Sporting regulations vs technical regulations. Smedley was also just following orders.

 

Sporting regulations vs technical regulations... your point being?

 

The fact that Smedley was just following orders doesn't take away the fact that he played a part in the team orders saga. Just like Pat Symonds did in Crashgate - he wasn't the only one involved, may not have been the mastermind (my memory on that is fuzzy), but he did play a part. Taking the moral high ground on such an issue comes off as a tad hypocritical.



#906 jestaudio

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Posted 06 September 2015 - 20:40

Sporting regulations vs technical regulations... your point being?

 

The fact that Smedley was just following orders doesn't take away the fact that he played a part in the team orders saga. Just like Pat Symonds did in Crashgate - he wasn't the only one involved, may not have been the mastermind (my memory on that is fuzzy), but he did play a part. Taking the moral high ground on such an issue comes off as a tad hypocritical.

Just a tad,  :lol: its quite amusing how the prospect of a few more points and another podium can cause the brain to engage nuetral



#907 Seanspeed

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Posted 06 September 2015 - 20:43

Sporting regulations vs technical regulations... your point being?

This is something with a very clear regulation and is measurable.

And trying to call Smedley a hypocrite is seriously reaching, anyways. Not that I'm on Smedley's side here, wishing for Mercedes to be punished, but this is a terribly poor attempt at discrediting somebody. The two situations are incredibly different in a number of ways.

Edited by Seanspeed, 06 September 2015 - 20:44.


#908 jestaudio

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Posted 06 September 2015 - 20:51

This is something with a very clear regulation and is measurable.

And trying to call Smedley a hypocrite is seriously reaching, anyways. Not that I'm on Smedley's side here, wishing for Mercedes to be punished, but this is a terribly poor attempt at discrediting somebody. The two situations are incredibly different in a number of ways.

Smedley would have done better to keep stum, easy enough to defer a question than be drawn into making statements on something that you are not in full possession of the relevant facts, as it happens Merc were found to have done nothing wrong,



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Posted 06 September 2015 - 20:54

Smedley would have done better to keep stum, easy enough to defer a question than be drawn into making statements on something that you are not in full possession of the relevant facts, as it happens Merc were found to have done nothing wrong,

Was really just responding to the accusations of hypocrisy.

#910 jestaudio

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Posted 06 September 2015 - 20:59

Sean :wave: some would see it a tad hypocritical for a man involved in making a driver give up a racing place in favour of his team mate commenting about the perceived misdeeds of another team, ditto for someone involved in crash gate,



#911 Myrvold

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Posted 07 September 2015 - 01:55

Sean :wave: some would see it a tad hypocritical for a man involved in making a driver give up a racing place in favour of his team mate commenting about the perceived misdeeds of another team

 

Why?

Not following the boss' order in Ferrari, usually leads to the closest door marked with "exit".



#912 RedBaron

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Posted 07 September 2015 - 07:52

For anyone interested he's my video of the podium (from interviews until the drivers left the podium). By far the best podium of the year, especially when you combine Tifosi, Vettel as a Ferrari driver and Massa. 

 



#913 Marklar

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Posted 07 September 2015 - 07:53

For anyone interested he's my video of the podium (from interviews until the drivers left the podium). By far the best podium of the year, especially when you combine Tifosi, Vettel as a Ferrari driver and Massa. 

 

Kimi instead of Lewis and you wouldnt have survived that :lol:



#914 Seanspeed

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Posted 07 September 2015 - 09:24

Sean :wave: some would see it a tad hypocritical for a man involved in making a driver give up a racing place in favour of his team mate commenting about the perceived misdeeds of another team, ditto for someone involved in crash gate,

No, considering the situations are quite different as I've explained.

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Posted 07 September 2015 - 09:49

The Buxton Blog @thebuxtonblog 6. Sep.

Nice leisurely weekend for the stewards

 

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#916 Brackets

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Posted 07 September 2015 - 13:33

The blue flagging this race was so bad I found myself mumbling "next thing you know they'll be blue flagging Checo". Lo and behold, one lap later,…

*sigh*

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Posted 07 September 2015 - 14:36

How Pat Symonds kept a straight face when answering questions about infringing rules on Sky Sports F1 yesterday, I will never know. I thought I had seen it all, there really is no shame for some. He must think we the viewers have no retentive memory.  :drunk:  :stoned:  :eek:



#918 Nonesuch

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Posted 07 September 2015 - 14:44

For anyone interested he's my video of the podium (from interviews until the drivers left the podium). By far the best podium of the year, especially when you combine Tifosi, Vettel as a Ferrari driver and Massa. 

 

That's excellent. Thank you for uploading it for us to see. :up:

 

It's a nice illustration of why those who claim Ferrari is 'just another team' couldn't be more wrong.

 

How Pat Symonds kept a straight face when answering questions about infringing rules on Sky Sports F1 yesterday, I will never know. I thought I had seen it all, there really is no shame for some. He must think we the viewers have no retentive memory.  :drunk:  :stoned:  :eek:

 

No kidding. :lol: Sometimes it is indeed better to keep quiet about certain topics, especially if your name is all over the atrocity that is the Singapore Grand Prix of 2008.



#919 Arion

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Posted 07 September 2015 - 16:40

why're you guys talking like you actually expect an objective answer from Pat symonds and Smedley, Massa would have been promoted a place if Merces got DSQ....



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#920 MikeV1987

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Posted 08 September 2015 - 08:51

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Posted 08 September 2015 - 09:39

Almost perfect. Nothing a bit of Photoshop can't fix, though. :up: