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[HistoryFan]

At the moment of course it's not very clear who will drive in GP3 next season. But the first rumours are in the paddocks.

There are very strong talks about DAMS joins the GP3 grid (and withdraws from Renault-World-Series).

I also could imagine we'll see Ricky Collard at Arden as he currently is very strong for Arden in MSA Formula.

At Koiranen Jack Aitken from their Eurocup team and Vladimir Atoev from the Koiranen run SMP F4 are good suggestions.

I hope to see Konstantin Tereshchenko from Campos Euroformula Open squad at their GP3 team.

Possible line-up:

ART: Aurélien Panis, Ukyo Sasahara, Thiago Vivacqua  

Arden: Alex Bosak, Matevos Isaakyan, Ricky Collard

Trident: Amaury Bonduel, Artur Janosz, Beitske Visser

Koiranen: Matt Parry, Jack Aitken, Vladimir Atoev

Carlin: Ryan Tveter, George Russell, Santino Ferrucci

Jenzer: Ralph Boschung, Mathéo Tuscher, Kevin Jörg

Status: Sandy Stuvik, Seb Morris, Alex Albon

Campos: Konstantin Tereshchenko, Alex Palou, Diego Menchaca 

[Volcano70]

I'd gladly take Panis

[OvDrone]

One question: the GP3 cars are better than those silly F3 ones, right?

 

I can't for the life of me get why F3 got so damn popular in the last two years and GP3 got so damn anonymous.

[FerrariV12]

One question: the GP3 cars are better than those silly F3 ones, right?

 

I can't for the life of me get why F3 got so damn popular in the last two years and GP3 got so damn anonymous.

 

To be honest I'm the other way, I always felt GP3 was kind of pointless. GP2 filled a genuine gap when F3000 died, whereas GP3 went squarely against an existing and well established formula. F3 has the benefit of at least having different engines, and theoretically different chassis too although we're still waiting for the ArtTech to show up. So for that reason as as a neutral fan I've always had more interest in F3. The fact Euro F3 seems a bit more liberal in terms of the entry helps too, it seems like teams can run as many or as few cars as they're capable of, with the opportunity for one-offs through the season, where GP3 seems a bit more fixed in that regard.

 

EDIT: Another important point from a fan's point of view - every Euro F3 race is made available on their YouTube channel, and the full broadcast with commentary rather than a half-arsed highlights package, so it's really easy to follow the series. By contrast GP3 sits behind the FOM force field.

Edited by FerrariV12, 16 September 2015 - 00:17.

[Prost1997T]

GP3 is on the F1 package, uses Pirellis and the engines are more powerful (400hp). That's about it.

[LukeFrost17]

At the moment of course it's not very clear who will drive in GP3 next season. But the first rumours are in the paddocks.

There are very strong talks about DAMS joins the GP3 grid (and withdraws from Renault-World-Series).

I also could imagine we'll see Ricky Collard at Arden as he currently is very strong for Arden in MSA Formula.

At Koiranen Jack Aitken from their Eurocup team and Vladimir Atoev from the Koiranen run SMP F4 are good suggestions.

I hope to see Konstantin Tereshchenko from Campos Euroformula Open squad at their GP3 team.

Possible line-up:

ART: Aurélien Panis, Ukyo Sasahara, Thiago Vivacqua  

Arden: Alex Bosak, Matevos Isaakyan, Ricky Collard

Trident: Amaury Bonduel, Artur Janosz, Beitske Visser

Koiranen: Matt Parry, Jack Aitken, Vladimir Atoev

Carlin: Ryan Tveter, George Russell, Santino Ferrucci

Jenzer: Ralph Boschung, Mathéo Tuscher, Kevin Jörg

Status: Sandy Stuvik, Seb Morris, Alex Albon

Campos: Konstantin Tereshchenko, Alex Palou, Diego Menchaca 

 

That's a very good grid!

 

The ART Lineup in particular looks good!

 

My only question mark is the Carlin lineup as I think all three could stay in F3 next season. Same with Albon

[balage06]

Teams for 2016-18 revealed:

 

Arden International

ART Grand Prix

Campos Racing

DAMS

Jenzer Motorsport

Koiranen GP

Trident

Virtuosi Racing

 

[Prost1997T]

Teams for 2016-18 revealed:

 

Arden International

ART Grand Prix

Campos Racing

DAMS

Jenzer Motorsport

Koiranen GP

Trident

Virtuosi Racing

 

http://www.motorspor...nd-status-exit/

 

Suggests that car counts will be down in 2016, I don't think every team will run 3 cars throughout the season.

[Ross Stonefeld]

Im most surprised by Carlin leaving.

[FerrariV12]

http://www.motorspor...nd-status-exit/

 

Suggests that car counts will be down in 2016, I don't think every team will run 3 cars throughout the season.

 

I figured they'd spin it by banging Bernie's tired old "quality over quantity" drum, but was still surprised to see it word for word in the Autosport article:

 

"we decided to limit the entries to eight and favour quality over quantity."

 

Another plus for F3 with it's 30+ grids, for me anyway.

[Prost1997T]

Im most surprised by Carlin leaving.

 

They've struggled to fill all of their seats in recent years, and with expansion into MSA Formula\Indy Lights, something would get dropped sooner or later. It wouldn't surprise me if they cut back commitments further when Gelael's money disappears.

[HistoryFan]

ART: Aurélien Panis, Ukyo Sasahara, Thiago Vivacqua  

Arden: Alex Bosak, Matevos Isaakyan, Ricky Collard

Trident: Michele Beretta, Amaury Bonduel, Beitske Visser

Koiranen: Matt Parry, Jack Aitken, Nick Cassidy

Jenzer: Ralph Boschung, Mathéo Tuscher, Kevin Jörg

Campos: Konstantin Tereshchenko, Alex Palou, Artur Janosz  

DAMS: Seb Morris, Ryan Tveter, Simon Gachet

Virtuosi: Antonio Fuoco, Sandy Stuvik, Matevos Isaakyan

[Viryfan]

De Vries may go to GP3.

http://www.gpupdate....nseinde-in-wsr/

 

Leclerc tipped for GP3 seat with ART.

http://www.autosport...t.php/id/121413

 

Fuoco according to Italiaracing will keep its backing of FDA as Kaspersky is willing to spend money on him.

 

If we have Fuoco,De Vries, Palou, Tuscher and Leclerc in this field it could become quite an even more tasty GP3 season.

Edited by Viryfan, 20 October 2015 - 09:48.

[TheRacingElf]

De Vries may go to GP3.

http://www.gpupdate....nseinde-in-wsr/

 

Leclerc tipped for GP3 seat with ART.

http://www.autosport...t.php/id/121413

 

Fuoco according to Italiaracing will keep its backing of FDA as Kaspersky is willing to spend money on him.

Don't think GP3 would be the right decision for De Vries. I would try to go to GP2 just like Vandoorne and Gasly did after 1 year of WSR, either with his current teams DAMS or replace Vandoorne at ART, which would be the more logical choice.

 

Would love to see Leclerc in GP3 with ART though, was impressive in the first part of the year in F3. Shame they didn't really seem to get the new chassis going after the Max Verstappen chassis was destroyed in Zandvoort.

 

And the FDA still stays a joke, they only go for Italians or kids with a shitload of money

[FullOppositeLock]

To go from best rookie and third overall in WSR to GP3 would appear to be a bit of a step back for Nyck de Vries. As you say, the next logical step would be stay in WS3.5V8 to go for the title or move to GP2. I presume this has come about by DAMS leaving WSR for GP3? Ultimately you would think it is up to McLaren where he goes next, and it will be a good indication of high highly (or not) they rate him what they have in store for him for next season. Ideally they "replace" Stoffel Vandoorne with him at ART.

[Viryfan]

We should see a shock move very soon from a son of former F1 GP winner at ART GP.

 

Complete dumb career choice but let's so be it.

[FullOppositeLock]

Who? Aurelien Panis?

[Viryfan]

Who? Aurelien Panis?

 

It's not him.

 

It's another french kid.

[FullOppositeLock]

Giuliano Alesi?

[Viryfan]

Giuliano Alesi?

 

you got it right

[FullOppositeLock]

Why do you think it's a dumb career move out of interest?

[Ross Stonefeld]

That does seem like a bit of a jump, but GP3 often seems full of "wait, who is that?" that are a little too young(experience wise, at least).

[Viryfan]

Why do you think it's a dumb career move out of interest?

 

He lacks experience with just 21 car racing races and a quite average and short CV in go karts.

 

With the gp3 he will have very little track time to learn his craft compared to FR2.0.

 

 

Also competition will be very tough.

 

Just look at the rookies this year.

[HistoryFan]

you got it right

 

Thought Alesi is going to drive for ART in Formula Renault 2.0?
 

[Prost1997T]

GP3 is down to just 7 teams, so up to 4 cars per team will be permitted from 2016 onwards: http://www.paddocksc...h-in-2016/31874

[HistoryFan]

The beginning of the end?

[Marklar]

Well, considering that the FIA want to promote their own series (future F2, F3) more, they will welcome this situation!

[Fastcake]

It's not healthy. The warning lights start flashing on when you're down to a handful of teams supplying the majority of the grid. I'd be surprised if some of the teams can even field three cars regularly next season, let alone add a fourth.

[Prost1997T]

Especially as they're all paying for new cars (the GP3/16 chassis) in 2016.

[Prost1997T]

Testing lineup at Abu Dhabi: http://www.motorspor...t-for-gp3-test/

[Prost1997T]

Jake Dennis signs with Arden: http://www.motorspor...-le-mans-drive/

[Prost1997T]

Looks like Alesi Jr is headed for GP3: http://www.motorspor...to-gp3-in-2016/

[TyreSmokeDownshift]

According to the Italian media (the site - F1Sport.it), Fuoco may not be the only Ferrari Driver Academy member in the field. Obviously there are the rumours that rumoured ART driver Charles Leclerc is joining (nothing official yet). The other possible new member (according to the report on this site) is Giuliano Alesi (makes sense given his father raced there in the early 90s).

[Viryfan]

According to the Italian media (the site - F1Sport.it), Fuoco may not be the only Ferrari Driver Academy member in the field. Obviously there are the rumours that rumoured ART driver Charles Leclerc is joining (nothing official yet). The other possible new member (according to the report on this site) is Giuliano Alesi (makes sense given his father raced there in the early 90s).

 

Alesi will race in GP3.

 

But TBH , i can't see how FDA could justify taking on Alesi on sport grounds right now.

[TheRacingElf]

But TBH , i can't see how FDA could justify taking on Alesi on sport grounds right now.

To be fair this applies to almost all FDA drivers, current and in the past.

[Viryfan]

To be fair this applies to almost all FDA drivers, current and in the past.

 

Fuoco (winning Alps in his rookie year + finishing in Top 6 in GP3/F3), Marciello and Bianchi (Leclerc in the future) were all much more legitimate than would be Alesi at FDA

[TheRacingElf]

What I meant to say is that most of them bought themselves in, FDA isn't like a Red Bull junior programme where you'll only get into based on your talent and doesn't make a difference whether you have huge amounts of money whereas with Ferrari you can pore a pile of cash in front of the gates in Maranello to be able to affiliate yourself with the prancing horse.

[Starchild]

What I meant to say is that most of them bought themselves in, FDA isn't like a Red Bull junior programme where you'll only get into based on your talent and doesn't make a difference whether you have huge amounts of money whereas with Ferrari you can pore a pile of cash in front of the gates in Maranello to be able to affiliate yourself with the prancing horse.

I don't know where did you get that from, but afaik not a single driver in FDA (former or present) didn't bought his place. Gutierrez probably bought his seat as a test driver but he is not in FDA.

Only 2 drivers that were rich in FDA so far are Perez and Stroll. But they are also very talented, i don't thnik they bought their place...

 

As for Red Bull programme, it's not really true that they are picking drivers only based on talent and nothing else, like you said. Some of their drivers probably bought their seats. From the current drivers in their programme i can't see what talent they saw in Sergio Sette Camara to give him the place in their programme. And also there are some other factors which helps you to get into their programme, like surname... Just look at toro rosso line-up, both drivers are very talented but also sons of former drivers...

Look at Sainz. His 2012. and 2013. seasons were really bad (formula 3 - 9th, british f3 - 6th, gp3 - 10th). Usually with 2 bad seasons in a row they dump the driver from programme, but they decided to give him another chance. I am not sure that would be the case if his surname wasn't Sainz. On the other hand they got rid of Da costa cause he finished 3rd in F3.5, which you even can't call a bad season. They got rid of Wickens after he finished 2nd in F2. For whatever reason they thought that wasn's good enough and they didn't gave him another chance, guy was year after 2nd in GP3 and then year after champion in Formula 3.5. So, they dumped two great talents after their pretty good seasons, while they decided to continue with Sainz after his 2 bad seasons in a row. I can't help myself to think that Sainz's surname and connections has had something with that.

[Viryfan]

ART GP will field four rookies in GP3 for the 2016 season.

[HistoryFan]

and who?

[Viryfan]

and who?

 

no name has been announced.

[TyreSmokeDownshift]

Reports from Spanish media - Alex Palou looks set to stay with Campos for 2016. Let's hope he has a better season than last year and fulfils his potential...

[Jonnycraig37]

Reports from Spanish media - Alex Palou looks set to stay with Campos for 2016. Let's hope he has a better season than last year and fulfils his potential...

http://www.gp3series...e-2016-line-up/

Confirmed. Palou, Tereschenko & Schothorst.

[HistoryFan]

so just 3 cars or could there be a 4th car with a alter announcement?

[Jonnycraig37]

I highly doubt that anyone except perhaps ART & DAMS will run 4 cars.

[sportyskells]

at least these drivers can head to Le Mans to have the 24 hour race as it not on the support bill of the European GP on June 18-19 but a certain other one is

[HistoryFan]

Campos driver confirmed:

 

ART: Charles Leclerc (?), Alex Albon (?), Nirei Fukuzumi (?), Nyck de Vries (?)

Trident: Michele Beretta (?), Antonio Fuoco (?), Leonardo Pulcini (?), Amaury Bonduel (?)

Arden: Jake Dennis, Alex Bosak (?), Ralph Boschung (?), Ricky Collard (?)

Koiranen: Matevos Isaakyan, Matt Parry, Nabil Jeffri (?), Nick Cassidy (?)

Jenzer: Giuliano Alesi (?), Nico Rindlisbacher (?), Antoni Ptak (?), Mathéo Tuscher (?)

Campos: Alex Palou, Konstantin Tereshchenko, Steijn Schothorst

DAMS: Seb Morris (?), Simon Gachet (?), Santino Ferrucci (?), Mitchell Gilbert (?)

[Kev00]

Seb Morris is likely to return to sports cars. He said F1 option is dead because it costs too much money. Might be racing in blancpain.

[TyreSmokeDownshift]

Also, I'd say, regarding the driver line-ups, if Nyck de Vries does join GP3, I think he'll race either with DAMS (FR3.5 connection) or Koiranen GP (FRE2.0 connection).  

[Kev00]

Also, I'd say, regarding the driver line-ups, if Nyck de Vries does join GP3, I think he'll race either with DAMS (FR3.5 connection) or Koiranen GP (FRE2.0 connection).

Not so sure really. McHonda and ART have a good relationship and I think they would like to see de vries in a title winning team rather than a newcomer in DAMS.