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[JeordieX]

Apart from Azerbaijan, are there any new races proposed for the F1 calendar?

[Marklar]

New Jersey is scheduled for 2017, but that will never happen anyway. Anything else are rumours.

[RedBaron]

There has been talk of a Welsh GP at the new circuit they want to build. However they have stated they aren't seeking to host an F1 race and that track won't be to FIA F1 standards - although they did say it'll only be 1 step down from that and wouldn't take much upgrading to qualifying, should it come about.

 

[Fastcake]

I'll eat my imaginary hat if they ever build that circuit of Wales, and I'll eat it again if Bernie uses it as anything more than a distraction to screw Silverstone out of more money.

[onemoresolo]

There has been a lot of talk about Qatar. I'm surprised that hasn't happened already, but I assume that's probably due to some exclusivity deal with Abu Dhabi. I've no doubt Qatar will be announced the moment that expires. 

 

South Africa was mooted earlier this year but news on that has gone cold of late.

 

Thailand was originally meant to host a street race around Bangkok this year before the local council banned racing in the area. I don't know if an alternative venue is being considered but I doubt it. 

 

New Jersey was always unlikely to happen, I cannot see that coming to fruition. I may be wrong.

 

Denmark was another very vague link, I can't see how or why that would happen any time soon though.

Edited by onemoresolo, 17 September 2015 - 16:09.

[AustinF1]

New Jersey is scheduled for 2017, but that will never happen anyway. Anything else are rumours.

Pretty sure that's dead in the water. Scheduled?

[Rob]

Pretty sure that's dead in the water. Scheduled?

 

I think there's about as much chance of that race happening as the original Jersey ending up on the calendar.

[Marklar]

Pretty sure that's dead in the water. Scheduled?

It is every year postponed. Probably in 2040 it will be stil in the planned race calender without a race beeing ever held.

[Kristian]

Qatar was getting blocked by Bahrain as they had a veto on more Middle Eastern races, but Qatar say they will pay Bahrain's hosting fee if they allow the race - so watch this space.... (I hope not, Losail would be dire). 

 

South Africa would be great. In fact I'm quite disappointed we never got Tilke's mooted circuit for 2004... 

 

[johnmhinds]

The Welsh circuit is just a sham to distract the locals who don't want them to expand the industrial estate.

[superden]

Qatar was getting blocked by Bahrain as they had a veto on more Middle Eastern races, but Qatar say they will pay Bahrain's hosting fee if they allow the race - so watch this space.... (I hope not, Losail would be dire).

South Africa would be great. In fact I'm quite disappointed we never got Tilke's mooted circuit for 2004...

That looks awful.

Edited by superden, 17 September 2015 - 16:39.

[Kristian]

That looks awful.

 

I don't know - apart from that stupid chicane at the back, its got some pretty fast corners (though obviously completely negated by the miles of asphalt).

 

Agh sod it, let's bring back Kyalami. 

[foxyracer]

There will never be a Welsh Grand Prix.  No-one would be able to pronounce the names of the corners.

[Volcano70]

India returning

[nosecone]

There will never be a Welsh Grand Prix.  No-one would be able to pronounce the names of the corners.

 

The reason we went to China...

[Fastcake]

India returning

 

Are you sure? That race seems as dead as Korea.

[Atreiu]

Qatar was getting blocked by Bahrain as they had a veto on more Middle Eastern races, but Qatar say they will pay Bahrain's hosting fee if they allow the race - so watch this space.... (I hope not, Losail would be dire). 

 

South Africa would be great. In fact I'm quite disappointed we never got Tilke's mooted circuit for 2004... 

 

 

 

I like it, despite lots of elbows.

 

India returning

 

Not at Budhh, it was horrible.

[jonpollak]

Imola

[Volcano70]

Yeah India returning is not gonna happen like NJ.....

[InSearchOfThe]

Turkey.

Pending November elections and a hard December decision to Bernie.

Turn 8 is sublime from my couch.

[johnmhinds]

I'm really surprised India was dropped so fast, did they just run out of money like Korea did?

 

They really made a lot of fuss about India having a huge population and it being important to F1s future, and they claimed F1 was going to be huge there.

 

Maybe if Force India was a more successful team the sport would have made more impact.

[Jimisgod]

I can't believe India will be gone for long. If you look at projected GDP growth it's the golden boy of the next 5-10 years. Manufacturers must be salivating.

 

Turkey seems to be creeping towards an authoritarian theocracy like the Gulf so Bernie must be salivating to return there, too.

Edited by Jimisgod, 18 September 2015 - 05:33.

[anbeck]

The reason we went to China...

 

Mandarin is actually not too hard to pronounce. You can learn the basic (!) pronunciation rules in an afternoon and are then able to get at least a rough approximation of the pronunciation when somebody gives you a hanyu pinyin romanisation (obviously not Chinese characters, and the motorsport audience would probably not bother if you got the tones wrong). Although it obviously does not help that, for example, Ho-Pin Tung does not use pinyin (so either his parents migrated a long time ago or he's from Taiwan or something). But Ma Qing Hua is super easy to pronounce, and it's incredibly funny how his name is mispronounced all the time. Can't commentators not spend 30 seconds to have wikipedia read them the correct pronunciation?

 

 

If the New Jersey race will never materialise, why do F1 people continue to play along as if it might one day?

 

Wasn't Ecclestone thinking about a London Grand Prix some time ago? Were there ever any actual circuit proposals?

[Docc]

Turkey.

Pending November elections and a hard December decision to Bernie.

Turn 8 is sublime from my couch.

The ISSL GP..!!

 

Great tourist location for the targets..er fans..

[teejay]

Serbia to line up with launch of Stefan GP

[Marklar]

May favourite rumour is stil a Greece GP in Piraeus....

 

[sjakie]

I expect the anouncement of a North Korea GP any moment now....

[Nonesuch]

Ho-Pin Tung does not use pinyin (so either his parents migrated a long time ago or he's from Taiwan or something).

 

I'm not sure what Tung's parents' background is, but he was indeed born in The Netherlands. Since he also has the Chinese nationality I assume at least one of his parents was from PR China.
 

[PayasYouRace]

India might turn out to be a bit like Japan. A couple of Grands Prix in the 70s but it didn't work for long, but when it did come back it was firmly established and we haven't lost it. The 3 we had might have been that taster and in a decade it might return with long term interest.

[TheManAlive]

I expect the anouncement of a North Korea GP any moment now....

.…and that the dear leader has already qualified on pole for the first six races with a lap time of -23.6 seconds and that he has been victorious 8 times (his wins so dominant that they had to hold two extra races to take account for his margin of victory in the other six) and all this without actually using a decadent imperialist tool of capitalist evil (ie an F1 car) instead solely relying upon the love of his people to waft him around the track on a cloud of pure adoration.

Half the forum would still moan that the sound made by the cloud of pure adoration just wasn't exciting enough and that the use of anti-aircraft guns to remove back markers was a phoney tactic only brought in by the FIA to spice up the 'show'.

Regards

FIA delegate for North Korea

[SenorSjon]

That looks awful.

 

Indeed. Luckily they have drawn a thick dark gray line between all the runoffs to identify the track. It just looks soulless. 

 

I'm really surprised India was dropped so fast, did they just run out of money like Korea did?

 

They really made a lot of fuss about India having a huge population and it being important to F1s future, and they claimed F1 was going to be huge there.

 

Maybe if Force India was a more successful team the sport would have made more impact.

 

India Customs, Taxing of team goods, etc were a problem for the teams. But I remember Vettel's last victory there. It wasn't to crowded and it looked like a sepia picture with all the smog around.

[4Wheeldrift]

I think the London GP has drifted towards Formula E - a lot cheaper and more in character (electric cars are for cities not open road (racing).

 

I believe there has been talk of a French GP - there was talk of Paris but that just seems fanciful - again the FE race seems more appropriate.

 

The Indian GP has a chance to come back when the tax situation is confirmed as sorted (And the campaigning bloke stops campaigning). 

 

 

There has been talk of Long Beach coming back.  Not sure about the seriousness of it.

[Kristian]

 

 

 

India Customs, Taxing of team goods, etc were a problem for the teams. But I remember Vettel's last victory there. It wasn't to crowded and it looked like a sepia picture with all the smog around.

 

Yep. Basically they siad that F1 was 'entertainment' not 'sport' therefore the teams had to pay hefty taxes on their equipment. It was not resolved (seriously, tax officials should be forced to watch the Australian, Chinese, Spanish, Monaco, Canadian, Austrian, Belgian and Italian grand prix from this year and see if they still find it 'entertaining'). 

[sjakie]

I think the London GP has drifted towards Formula E - a lot cheaper and more in character (electric cars are for cities not open road (racing).

 

I believe there has been talk of a French GP - there was talk of Paris but that just seems fanciful - again the FE race seems more appropriate.

 

The Indian GP has a chance to come back when the tax situation is confirmed as sorted (And the campaigning bloke stops campaigning). 

 

 

There has been talk of Long Beach coming back.  Not sure about the seriousness of it.

 

Last year the city council of Long Beach made another deal with the Long Beach Grand Prix Association to continue with them until 2018. The Association has a contract with Indycar. F1 could return in 2019 if the contract is not renewed.

[MattK9]

I would love to see some new circuits at the expense of some of the existing new circuits. These far away fly-away should be on the calender only every other year (similar to hockenheim/nurburgring) or 2 out of every 3 years.

[Brackets]

There has been talk of a Welsh GP at the new circuit they want to build. However they have stated they aren't seeking to host an F1 race and that track won't be to FIA F1 standards - although they did say it'll only be 1 step down from that and wouldn't take much upgrading to qualifying, should it come about.
 

You just gotta love how even the artwork already has the lines that VET will be taking...

(Those 'tightening esses' scream Tilke, BTW)

[MattPete]

F1 needs to race here!

[Heisenberg]

I would love if they would race again at Kyalami in South Africa! I wouldn't mind a return of Magny-Cours either if I'm honest! It's a shame that some of the classics have been removed, like the ones I mentioned and also Imola and Nurburgring or better yet: the old Hockenheim! But meh, what do I know? Let's go to Azerbaijan instead!

 

As for new races, it would be interesting to have a GP in Greece or how about Scandinavia: maybe in Sweden or Finland... However, with Tilke designing the tracks, I'm not sure I'm that keen on any new circuits to be honest.

Edited by Heisenberg, 18 September 2015 - 13:52.

[LukeFrost17]

I'd love Magny-Cours to return especially if Renault supposedly coming back as a factory team.

 

Scandinavia would be an interesting market for F1 to go to but they'd have to build a decent track first!

 

I feel though that Bernie wants F1 to go to new countries to explore new markets rather than return to traditional F1 circuits like Imola, Magny-Cours, Nuburgring etc.

[BRG]

If the New Jersey race will never materialise, why do F1 people continue to play along as if it might one day?

 

Wasn't Ecclestone thinking about a London Grand Prix some time ago? Were there ever any actual circuit proposals?

The rationale is the same for both.  They are/were one of Bernie's weapons to try to strongarm more dosh out of the real US and British GPs.  

 

NJ was never a real proposition.

 

London is just a sort of fan's wet dream that couldn't happen as the law needed changing.  In theory, that happened earlier this year, but it turned out to be a false dawn and apparently needs further legislation which won't happen as the Election has been and gone and 'Call me Dave' no longer gives a toss about motorsport as he has a nice majority.  And closing off half of London for a week isn't really feasible anyway.  All to get a crappy street circuit when we have several proper race tracks.

Edited by BRG, 18 September 2015 - 16:01.

[Atreiu]

Do you guys really miss India?

[ElJefe]

Do you guys really miss India?

I thought India was one of the better Tilke-tracks to be honest. If you compare it to the utter drivel of Sochi, Abu Dhabi and Bahrain, I would rather have India back on the calendar and scrap one of the aforementioned tracks. 

[TimRTC]

There will never be a Welsh Grand Prix.  No-one would be able to pronounce the names of the corners.

 

Its a modern circuit, you will just need the following chart:

 

one un

two dau

three tri

four pedwar

five pump

six chwech

seven saith

eight wyth

nine naw

ten deg

Edited by TimRTC, 18 September 2015 - 17:13.

[Risil]

Imola

 

And Jerez. Would be nice.

[PayasYouRace]

And Jerez. Would be nice.

 

Estoril too?

[Risil]

I could live with that.

Edited by Risil, 18 September 2015 - 18:56.