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#51 D28

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Posted 23 November 2015 - 15:32

Good work !

I am still looking at your Nov18 post of Ludwig's orange McLaren, (Keating Ford Special). The decal on the right flank is still a mystery?

I have no answer, bu am still looking.



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#52 ThursdayCar

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Posted 23 November 2015 - 15:39

Yup it is... it looks similar to Bardahl and BP but these already feature elsewhere (from memory).



#53 bobLee

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Posted 23 November 2015 - 16:44

Hi all. Calling once more on your collective knowledge and wisdom!

 

Bud Morley raced an Elva Mk II (McLaren M1B) in 1966 and I have two questions:

1) Who was the engine supplier/tuner he carried a sticker of on the side of his car (with a griffin / lion on it)

2) What was the first name of his mechanic with surname Collins?

 

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Also, John Cannon drove the ex-Bonnier, yellow, McLaren M6B with MAC's branding in 1969 (Mont Tremblant).

His mechnic's firstname was JACK. What was his surname?

 

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Thanks for all your help!

:wave:

The chief mechanic on the ex Bonnier M6B owned by Bill young and campaigned in 1969 was Jack Hoare.  Jack was an ex Shelby mechanic and he talked Bill Young into running a Ford BB.  The Ford BB had reliability issues.


Edited by bobLee, 23 November 2015 - 16:49.


#54 ThursdayCar

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Posted 23 November 2015 - 16:52

Thanks Bob! I was working on the basis of that theory as I had found Jack was also the man on the later twin engine MAC-it car. Thanks for confirming, much appreciated!  :wave:



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Posted 23 November 2015 - 17:00

Thanks Bob! I was working on the basis of that theory as I had found Jack was also the man on the later twin engine MAC-it car. Thanks for confirming, much appreciated!  :wave:

Yes Jack Hoare when on to build the MACS-It special in 1970.  It had four Rotax 800cc snowmobile engines one on each wheel. 



#56 ThursdayCar

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Posted 23 November 2015 - 17:46

Yes quad engine, sorry!

#57 ThursdayCar

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Posted 23 November 2015 - 17:47

Ps your avatar is one of my favourite Can Am McLarens!


Edited by ThursdayCar, 23 November 2015 - 18:29.


#58 ThursdayCar

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Posted 23 November 2015 - 17:48

...And in fact later became the Mac car shown above!

#59 RShaw

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Posted 25 November 2015 - 18:42

I am coming pretty late to the party but I thought I would contribute what I can to the identification of the mechanic on the Morley car.  Frank Barrett was correct, it is Dabney Collins.  Dab is the fellow at the back of the car holding the jack handle.

Dab spent many years as an import car mechanic, owning and operating several shops in the Denver area in the '50s and early '60s, and was service manager at a couple of others.  He was also a driver and mechanic/crew chief for the Temple Buell team in the mid-50s.

At the time the Morely photo was taken Dab was a foreman and machinist at a machine shop in Boulder, CO.  Dab says he served as Morley's mechanic for only a couple of races, one in Las Vegas, and one in Palm Springs.  Dab is hale and hearty at 90 now, I am glad to say.

Ron Shaw

Aurora, CO

 



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#60 E1pix

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Posted 25 November 2015 - 19:58

I am coming pretty late to the party but I thought I would contribute what I can to the identification of the mechanic on the Morley car.  Frank Barrett was correct, it is Dabney Collins.  Dab is the fellow at the back of the car holding the jack handle.
Dab spent many years as an import car mechanic, owning and operating several shops in the Denver area in the '50s and early '60s, and was service manager at a couple of others.  He was also a driver and mechanic/crew chief for the Temple Buell team in the mid-50s.
At the time the Morely photo was taken Dab was a foreman and machinist at a machine shop in Boulder, CO.  Dab says he served as Morley's mechanic for only a couple of races, one in Las Vegas, and one in Palm Springs.  Dab is hale and hearty at 90 now, I am glad to say.
Ron Shaw
Aurora, CO

Sorry to divert, and we'll go to PM if you say yes and are able, but your name's familiar, Ron. Did you know John Barker?

#61 ThursdayCar

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Posted 25 November 2015 - 21:48

Thanks Ron, that's a great bit of context and it's good to have the name seconded! :up:



#62 RShaw

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Posted 26 November 2015 - 17:28

One additional comment about the Bud Morely car.  Dab Collins told me that the engine in it was a Shelby Cobra.  Can't help with the "engine by" sticker on the side of the car, I'm afraid.

Ron Shaw 



#63 ThursdayCar

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Posted 26 November 2015 - 18:24

Ah, that's very interesting... thanks! The plot thickens! We will get all the facts together ...at some point!



#64 RShaw

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Posted 27 November 2015 - 03:05

I am not 100% sure, but I believe this may be Bud Morely in his McLaren at a May, 1966 race at Continental Divide Raceway, Castle Rock, CO.  Probably an SCCA national or possibly a regional event.

 

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#65 ThursdayCar

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Posted 27 November 2015 - 05:50

Wow, thanks Ron, what a great shot. It sure is Bud judging from his stature and posture in the car. This photos clarifies the colour of the Rose Engineeering sticker (yellow), which is great! Thanks again! Shame he isn't carrying the Festo sticker here but I would be surprised if that wasn't red...

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#66 bobLee

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Posted 28 November 2015 - 19:38

Ps your avatar is one of my favourite Can Am McLarens!

Sorry but I changed the Avatar to a Bob Barton photo of the Ti 22 MKII at Riverside in 1972. 



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Posted 28 November 2015 - 20:22

I can live with that!