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[Zava]

meh. hopefully they can fix it faster than the porsche crew did theirs. 

nope.

[Nonesuch]

Full course yellows when there's an incident only at Turn One?

 

I'm not sure I follow what the race director is up to here, in Fuji and at the Nürburgring as well. They did so well at Le Mans with the short Slow Zones.

 

Two of these in quick succession is a bit too much for me. I'll watch the rest on the highlights.

[Zava]

the #8 audi's problem pretty much killed it for me. now it is if #17 finishes, they are champions, if they have further problems, and #7 not, they are champs. pretty straightforward.

Edited by Zava, 21 November 2015 - 15:44.

[MNader]

Porsche have Webbered it

[30ft penguin]

I see Webber has not lost his touch.

[TheRacingElf]

If #18 wins and #7 finishes 2nd, where has the Webbered Porsche need to finish?

[30ft penguin]

Commentators just said somewhere around 8th or 9th. Have not calculated it myself, but anyway, they should still win it unless they drop a couple places further down.

[FLB]

The hybrid system is apparently gone on Webber's Porsche.

[Sheepmachine]

This so unbelievably tense!

[MNader]

7th would do it fo webbo

[Peat]

[goingthedistance]

Nothing comes easy for Mark.

[d246]

Nothing comes easy for Mark.

Makes for good viewing though!

[Muppetmad]

This is quite crazy.

[MNader]

Jani has been super quick here

[onewingedangel]

One last lap for the 17 to complete.

[MNader]

Webber and Vettel win.

 

 

who would have guessed

[Knowlesy]

Flamin' Nora!

Webber has actually won something.

Edited by Knowlesy, 21 November 2015 - 18:58.

[Jonnycraig37]

Delighted for Hartley, fully deserved championship.

Shame Webber was carried to it as there are 3 faster and more deserving drivers in the #18, but hey it's a team sport

[Sheepmachine]

WEBBER THE CHAMPION!
This is the greatest day!

[Marklar]

Delighted for Hartley, fully deserved championship.

Shame Webber was carried to it as there are 3 faster and more deserving drivers in the #18, but hey it's a team sport

LOL. Webber is also a fully deserve champion. He made great improvements this year.

Edited by Marklar, 21 November 2015 - 18:12.

[muramasa]

What a race, congrats Mark Timo Brendon and all the Porsche crew!

 

super tense race, those moments when #17's engine was cut and how Mark dealt with the situation were epic!

[JuanPablo]

Delighted for Webber. Too many online experts want to give him a kicking, but I'm genuinely happy for him.

[Jonnycraig37]

LOL. Webber is also a fully deserve champion. He made great improvements this year.

Can't agree I'm afraid. He's been slower than molasses all year, and any of the #18 drivers would be a more deserving champion in my humble opinion.

[Marklar]

Can't agree I'm afraid. He's been slower than molasses all year, and any of the #18 drivers would be a more deserving champion in my humble opinion.

 

Sorry, I have a always a problem with it if people are downgrading someones championship immediately with weak arguments

[P123]

Well done to all three. Good to see Hartley showing there is an alternative if your F1 dream fails, and Webber showing there is success to be had once the F1 days are over.

[SilverArrow31]

This is great news for the WEC, should be on quite a few of the back pages tomorrow, well done Webbo and team  Be a bit less dominate next year though yeah, and let Ant Davidson win Le mans

[Ricciardo2014]

Delighted for Hartley, fully deserved championship.

Shame Webber was carried to it as there are 3 faster and more deserving drivers in the #18, but hey it's a team sport

 

Ahh the Webber haters, quick to come crawling out of the woodwork.

The bloke's just won a World Championship, yet some will find fault in whatever he accomplishes.

Seriously, what more can someone do than win ? ? ?

 

Hilarious 

 

Congrat's to all 3 drivers.

They won, simple as that.

[Nonesuch]

Congratulations to Hartley, Webber, Bernhard, and also to Lietz, Beche, Prost, Canal, Rusinov, Bird, Basov, Bertolini, and Shaytar.

 

I hope that's all of them.

 

I'm not too pleased by how the WEC has developed over the course of the 2015 season, most notably in regard to the frequent full neutralizations in a sport where strategy plays such an important role, but Porsche did a good job and that's fair enough.

Edited by Nonesuch, 21 November 2015 - 21:10.

[Lemans]

Congratulations to Porsche and Mark Webber.

Nice to see them beat Audi and clinch both Championships.

 

What a year! 

Edited by Lemans, 21 November 2015 - 22:37.

[RPM40]

the #8 audi's problem pretty much killed it for me. now it is if #17 finishes, they are champions, if they have further problems, and #7 not, they are champs. pretty straightforward.

[RPM40]

Great race, incredible result.

This championship has made F1 look a bit bland all season long. Wheel to wheel stuff at the 3 hour mark in the race nearly every race. I'm actually not sure how the governing body is pulling that off, the cars just converge mid race.

 

Congratulations to Brandon, Mark and Timo. Deserving champions this year. They've been the quickest car on track nearly every race. 

[RPM40]

Delighted for Webber. Too many online experts want to give him a kicking, but I'm genuinely happy for him.

 

Considering he never won a title prior to F1 his resume is very impressive, there are few drivers of this generation with a better career than Mark. Was probably never quite good enough for an F1 title, but he well and truly deserves this.

[Pete_f1]

Well, that was six hours of great drama. Really glad I have been able to follow the series on Motors TV as they always seem to be entertaining from start to finish.

[TF110]

End of an era for Toyota and Ferrari, arguably two of the best sounding engines on the grid. No more high rev V8 screamers. Goodbye to Alex Wurz, glad he got a podium in his last race. Porsche beat Audi, and Webber got his world championship! Too bad there were only about 10 people in the stands 

Edited by TF110, 22 November 2015 - 07:10.

[Victor_RO]

As an FYI to everyone, the "rookie" test is currently taking place. And a certain Juan Pablo Montoya has taken his first laps in the Porsche 919. 

[SophieB]

Mac Swenson ‏@mac_swenson  9h9 hours ago
@leighdiffey @AussieGrit and a podium leap for the ages!

 

[SophieB]

Mark Webber ‏@AussieGrit  46m46 minutes ago

Bringing her home... The date worked out....@Porsche

 

Mark Webber ‏@AussieGrit  54m54 minutes ago

World champions with these lads... @BrendonHartley @Timo_Bernhard @Porsche

 

 

Mark Webber ‏@AussieGrit  47m47 minutes ago

Pretty happy... https://instagram.com/p/-YZeIrpFkR/ 

[Victor_RO]

Mac Swenson ‏@mac_swenson  9h9 hours ago
@leighdiffey @AussieGrit and a podium leap for the ages!

 

 

Someone's caption for this scene (shamelessly stolen from a Facebook group): "Timo Bernhard holds up his Mark Webber-shaped World Championship trophy".

[SophieB]

Paddy Lowe ‏@paddylowe  4m4 minutes ago

Congratulations to @alex_wurz for a podium finish in his final race! #FIAWEC #6hBahrain

[Jonnycraig37]

Sorry, I have a always a problem with it if people are downgrading someones championship immediately with weak arguments

Only personal opinion at the end of the day. Porsche pay Hartley to put it on pole for him, and Bernhard to build an unassailable gap for him, so I struggle to get very excited about him 'winning' just as I do the gentleman racer who 'wins' in ELMS off the back of a Gold & Platinum driver.

[Victor_RO]

Only personal opinion at the end of the day. Porsche pay Hartley to put it on pole for him, and Bernhard to build an unassailable gap for him, so I struggle to get very excited about him 'winning' just as I do the gentleman racer who 'wins' in ELMS off the back of a Gold & Platinum driver.

 

http://fiawec.alkamelsystems.com/

 

Timing data available for everyone to see. The only place where Webber was clearly slower than his teammates was Le Mans itself. With the two-driver quali system he's done his fair share of quali runs, and he's been the fastest Porsche driver in terms of race laps on a number of occasions this year. And if you hold up Fuji as an example of MW being slower than his teammates in the race, he was the one that drove in that race when the track was at its wettest. Also, you seem to forget Silverstone, Webber started the car there and drove away from the field (including the other Porsche) until the car developed a terminal gearbox issue.

 

And the comparison with gentleman drivers is also flawed and invalid. All the cars in the ELMS that compete for a win have at least one Silver/Bronze-rated driver running. Often enough it's the pace of the gentleman driver that makes the difference.

 

 

EDIT: Timing data for the morning rookie session: http://fiawec.alkame...orning Test.PDF

[RPM40]

Only personal opinion at the end of the day. Porsche pay Hartley to put it on pole for him, and Bernhard to build an unassailable gap for him, so I struggle to get very excited about him 'winning' just as I do the gentleman racer who 'wins' in ELMS off the back of a Gold & Platinum driver.

Quite an ignorant opinion. Webber has probably been Porsche's fastest overall driver this year, some of his stints have simply been incredible, go watch Fuji in the early race he made everyone else look stupid. It's hard to say who is the best overall driver as all play their own roles, but Webber would undeniably be one of WEC's top drivers.

[Risil]

One thing that's taken me a few years of following endurance racing to grasp is that when it comes to watching a race and trying to work out which of the drivers is pulling their weight and which aren't --

 

you can't do it.

[RPM40]

One thing that's taken me a few years of following endurance racing to grasp is that when it comes to watching a race and trying to work out which of the drivers is pulling their weight and which aren't --

you can't do it.

That may be true, but you can judge their on track pace. When one pulls clear of the others by a second per lap it's clear

[discover23]

As an FYI to everyone, the "rookie" test is currently taking place. And a certain Juan Pablo Montoya has taken his first laps in the Porsche 919.

And he was fast...

@PorscheRaces: Fastest lap of the day for @jpmontoya and #Porsche919Hybrid in 1.40,861 minutes @PorscheNewsroom @FIAWEC

[Risil]

Nice

[Knowlesy]

Quite an ignorant opinion. Webber has probably been Porsche's fastest overall driver this year, some of his stints have simply been incredible, go watch Fuji in the early race he made everyone else look stupid. It's hard to say who is the best overall driver as all play their own roles, but Webber would undeniably be one of WEC's top drivers.

This.

He wasn't really up to much last year (he was OK) but he has really upped the ante this season.

[zztopless1]

Quite an ignorant opinion. Webber has probably been Porsche's fastest overall driver this year, some of his stints have simply been incredible, go watch Fuji in the early race he made everyone else look stupid. It's hard to say who is the best overall driver as all play their own roles, but Webber would undeniably be one of WEC's top drivers.

 

I'm a big Webber fan and thought he had a good year, but didn't Webber have a poor Fuji?  Was he not on pole and then went off several times to end up quite a long way down after the first couple of stops?

[Callahan]

http://fiawec.alkamelsystems.com/

 

Timing data available for everyone to see. The only place where Webber was clearly slower than his teammates was Le Mans itself. With the two-driver quali system he's done his fair share of quali runs, and he's been the fastest Porsche driver in terms of race laps on a number of occasions this year. And if you hold up Fuji as an example of MW being slower than his teammates in the race, he was the one that drove in that race when the track was at its wettest. Also, you seem to forget Silverstone, Webber started the car there and drove away from the field (including the other Porsche) until the car developed a terminal gearbox issue.

 

And the comparison with gentleman drivers is also flawed and invalid. All the cars in the ELMS that compete for a win have at least one Silver/Bronze-rated driver running. Often enough it's the pace of the gentleman driver that makes the difference.

 

 

EDIT: Timing data for the morning rookie session: http://fiawec.alkame...orning Test.PDF

Are you sure about that. it sounds like your telling the truth. Haters are normally ignorant to logic and truth.