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#601 nosaj100

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Posted 11 September 2016 - 20:53

Newman had no issue spinning Larson during the Chase last year, he's a hypocrite :p



He's done stuff like that too but he's not wrong about Stewart either. Stewart is an asshole with anger issues. Heck, just last week he deliberately wrecked the 44 because he got frustrated with him and then he deliberately wrecked more people this week. You'd think Stewart would be smart enough to curb his outbursts considering he's currently under a civil lawsuit in which the lawyers will try to show that Kevin Ward died because Stewart is prone to angry outbursts of retaliation but then again, this is Tony Stewart we're talking about.

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#602 Ross Stonefeld

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Posted 11 September 2016 - 23:19

How dare you, you are required to call him Smoke. 



#603 Prost1997T

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Posted 12 September 2016 - 00:00

Just so it's clear, I'm no fan of Stewart's moves on track recently. Newman really isn't the right guy to be lecturing others on clean driving. I don't see what the Ward case has to do with it, the kid shouldn't have stepped onto a live racetrack. Anyway I don't want to get into something that's been debated to death before, let the court decide that.


Edited by Prost1997T, 12 September 2016 - 00:01.


#604 Ross Stonefeld

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Posted 12 September 2016 - 00:26

Wasn't no debate what done killed Kevin Ward. No sir. 



#605 Dmitriy_Guller

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Posted 12 September 2016 - 12:55

I don't think Ward's death has been debated to death inside NASCAR at all.  In fact, it seems like the entire racing community got together like police union after a questionable shooting and worked on a story that would make it all go away the quickest.  Suddenly you had everyone testifying that the steering wheel on sprint cars is there just for decoration, the throttle accelerates, steers, and brakes in those cars.  And everyone in the community breathed a sigh of relief when they found out Ward smoked a little dope, because obviously that explains everything about why and how he got killed.



#606 kevinracefan

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Posted 12 September 2016 - 13:04

The whole Chase system seems like such an insanity.  How in the world can anyone think that having a dozen drivers driving around with nothing to lose for half the season creates drama?  This is such an obviously disastrous idea, and yet it seems like everyone is under orders to say what a great idea it is, and draw the obligatory irrelevant comparison with major sports.

I like it..

 

I have no connection to the sport other than as a fan for almost 60 years.. (I'm 61)

 

It adds drama for some cars getting in, and adds a ton of drama as it plays out.

 

no sport fully overcomes the "football effect" this time of year, but this gets more news mentions than it used to..

 

I understand purists still want a 36 race point champion, but the sport was losing out to football this time of year, every year..

 

you're entitled to your opinion, but don't presume yours is the only correct opinion and don't assume anyone with a positive opinion is under orders to do so..



#607 djparky

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Posted 12 September 2016 - 17:05

Good. Don't have any respect for Newman or Stewart. I'm betting KB takes it again. Only other non-Toyota I see contending is Keselowski or Harvick. Biggest lottery is Talladega.


I'll be happy to see Busch or Hamlin win it- agree about Harvick and Keselowski

#608 arebin

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Posted 12 September 2016 - 23:02

I think Harvick or Truex win the championship this year. Although they both have similar problems on pit road that could cause them to derail.

Carl Edwards for my dark horse.

Newman may not be the best guy to criticize Stewart, but that doesn't make him wrong. Stewart's been changing lanes to wreck drivers since he came into Stock Cars. I'll be glad when he's gone.

#609 Prost1997T

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Posted 12 September 2016 - 23:15

The original chase was one thing, but with the current elimination format, one mechanical failure can kill off your championship run entirely.



#610 Myrvold

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Posted 13 September 2016 - 00:48

And any system where you can make it possible to have 35 wins and one 2nd place out of 36 race, and not win the championship is idiotic.



#611 jonpollak

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Posted 13 September 2016 - 11:15

Which leads me to believe this is entertainment and not car racing.

Jp



#612 Ross Stonefeld

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Posted 13 September 2016 - 12:05

Sure, but we know that going in. 



#613 kevinracefan

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Posted 13 September 2016 - 15:03

and I'm quite well entertained..



#614 John B

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Posted 13 September 2016 - 18:44

And any system where you can make it possible to have 35 wins and one 2nd place out of 36 race, and not win the championship is idiotic.

 

Ironically, in spite of all the changes and tinkering that's been one common element of the historic and current systems. If 2nd place led the most laps they wound up with equal points as the winner in the 185-180 etc system in the past.



#615 Branislav

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Posted 14 September 2016 - 09:04

Champion should be the driver with the most wins in the season.



#616 jonpollak

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Posted 14 September 2016 - 12:23

Or even award double points for a win in the "Chaise"? I'm with ya Brani...

#617 PiperPa42

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Posted 14 September 2016 - 16:06

Champion should be the driver with the most wins in the season.

They should be awarded a gold medal for a win, silver for second and bronce for third.

#618 Branislav

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Posted 14 September 2016 - 20:01

Nascar is not olympic.



#619 John B

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Posted 15 September 2016 - 00:11

Only because the IOC hasn't yet made the mental leap to implement a caution clock for track and field or swimming



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#620 Branislav

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Posted 15 September 2016 - 07:45

I hope it will not come in Sprint Cup.



#621 jonpollak

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Posted 15 September 2016 - 13:00

Robby Gordon's parents found dead in their home. http://www.nydailyne...ticle-1.2792983

#622 kevinracefan

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Posted 18 September 2016 - 21:09

The Hendrick engine shop has clearly caught back up with (and passed) TRD..

anybody still care to challenge my comment??

 

seems pretty clear now... all the HMS engines are strong in chicago



#623 Jim Thurman

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Posted 24 September 2016 - 17:13

Just so it's clear, I'm no fan of Stewart's moves on track recently. Newman really isn't the right guy to be lecturing others on clean driving. I don't see what the Ward case has to do with it, the kid shouldn't have stepped onto a live racetrack. Anyway I don't want to get into something that's been debated to death before, let the court decide that.

 

Recently? He's always done that. Remember Matt Kenseth, Kyle Busch and Arie Luyendyk all said versions of "Stewart tried to kill me" years ago.

 

I don't think Ward's death has been debated to death inside NASCAR at all.  In fact, it seems like the entire racing community got together like police union after a questionable shooting and worked on a story that would make it all go away the quickest.  Suddenly you had everyone testifying that the steering wheel on sprint cars is there just for decoration, the throttle accelerates, steers, and brakes in those cars.  And everyone in the community breathed a sigh of relief when they found out Ward smoked a little dope, because obviously that explains everything about why and how he got killed.

 

This  :up:  And the ridiculous thread here that turned into a non-discussion with the same circle the wagons mentality. One dare not even attempt to point out that those offering their testimony about how sprint cars drove might be doing exactly that and out of their own biases. No, it was hailed as imperative evidence proving beyond a doubt Stewart could not have been responsible. That, along with people that had no knowledge of anything they were talking about, things like "it appears the track might be bitumen."  :rolleyes:



#624 grackle

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Posted 25 October 2016 - 19:44

Martinsville coming.



#625 Branislav

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Posted 26 October 2016 - 13:17

And without Brad :( I have no interest in watching :(



#626 Bob Riebe

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Posted 26 October 2016 - 16:14

I don't think Ward's death has been debated to death inside NASCAR at all.  In fact, it seems like the entire racing community got together like police union after a questionable shooting and worked on a story that would make it all go away the quickest.  Suddenly you had everyone testifying that the steering wheel on sprint cars is there just for decoration, the throttle accelerates, steers, and brakes in those cars.  And everyone in the community breathed a sigh of relief when they found out Ward smoked a little dope, because obviously that explains everything about why and how he got killed.

Stupidity has just rewards and Ward's stupidity got him killed, end of story except for conspiracy freaks.



#627 kevinracefan

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Posted 26 October 2016 - 16:49

And without Brad :( I have no interest in watching :(

how sad



#628 FLB

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Posted 06 December 2016 - 13:09

No idea if this warrants a 2017 NASCAR thread, but it's interesting:

 

Sergio Marchionne wants Dodge back in NASCAR and has had talks with the Frances.

 

 

http://www.autonews....eturn-to-nascar



#629 jonpollak

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Posted 06 December 2016 - 13:51

JUST DO IT !!!

#630 kevinracefan

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Posted 06 December 2016 - 14:40

Premier Motorsports the new factory team, LOL...



#631 HistoryFan

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Posted 06 December 2016 - 17:39

No idea if this warrants a 2017 NASCAR thread, but it's interesting:

 

Sergio Marchionne wants Dodge back in NASCAR and has had talks with the Frances.

 

 

http://www.autonews....eturn-to-nascar

would be nice to see a new engine supplier in NASCAR

who could be the other interests France is speaking about? Nissan? Hyundai? Honda?



#632 kevinracefan

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Posted 06 December 2016 - 18:25

would be nice to see a new engine supplier in NASCAR

who could be the other interests France is speaking about? Nissan? Hyundai? Honda?

VW who since backed away..



#633 loki

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Posted 06 December 2016 - 21:02

The lead time required by the sanction for Cup is about two and a half years.  The deadline for the coming season was Sept of 2015.  You then need a full car by the April before your season starts.  He's looking at 2019 at the earliest and that's if he starts now.  They have no program, no team to support them at this point.  He's not going to find a lot of support among established engineers due to how they pulled out last time.



#634 kevinracefan

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Posted 07 December 2016 - 15:14

The lead time required by the sanction for Cup is about two and a half years.  The deadline for the coming season was Sept of 2015.  You then need a full car by the April before your season starts.  He's looking at 2019 at the earliest and that's if he starts now.  They have no program, no team to support them at this point.  He's not going to find a lot of support among established engineers due to how they pulled out last time.

He has an overblown perception of his own importance..



#635 jonpollak

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Posted 08 December 2016 - 21:31

Kinda like me then.