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[Anja]

Already reported in the car launch thread, but we don't have a 2016 Sauber one yet so this might as well be the news to start from:

 

New Sauber will not be ready for first F1 test

 

They say it's according to plan, but having only one test for a new cars is surely a situation far from ideal and quite risky? Might prove to be a difficult start of the season for them (as if they had it easy for the past few years).

[FPV GTHO]

Force India had a tough pre-season last year and that ended not too bad for them. Sauber have had a rough few years though so will be asking alot for similar.

[RainyAfterlifeDaylight]

Mark Smith is there too. He can make some differences in a positive way. Sauber, Haas and Manor (with lower threat) will fight it very hard and towards the end, the winner of those three will annoy ToroRosso as well.

 

Such a precious prediction 

[Gilles4Ever]

Sauber F1 Team ‏@SauberF1Team  54s54 seconds ago

YAY! The #SauberC35 did it! Nose & chassis passed the static & dynamic crash tests!

 

[Marklar]

Looks like last years nose

[ckolcz]

It is. I don't think they will show anything until the official presentation.

[LORDBYRON]

probably because they didn't promise 6 drivers a drive and take their money this year!

[turssi]

When and why did this team's relationship with Ferrari go South?

From developing drivers for the red team to running year old engines and pay drivers is quite a drop :-(

[Marklar]

When and why did this team's relationship with Ferrari go South?

From developing drivers for the red team to running year old engines and pay drivers is quite a drop :-(

Wait. What?

[shonguiz]

When and why did this team's relationship with Ferrari go South?

From developing drivers for the red team to running year old engines and pay drivers is quite a drop :-(

They have the same engines, and their Ferrari relationship is still strong. Their problem is not Ferrari but cash.

[turssi]

Wait. What?

Oh, damn. It's STR with the old Ferrari engines and Manor with new Merc engines and Haas setting their goal at being as fast as Sauber was in 2015? Lol.

[Mohican]

Sauber have been financially challenged ever since BMW dropped them like a hot brick. They have never had a stable sponsor situation since.

Think that it is quite impressive that they are still around, given what has happened all around them. Lotus/caterham, Virgin/Marussia/Manor, Hispania/HRT and of course Renault/Lotus/Renault.

[messy]

Can't help feel that Sauber are slowly slipping back down the grid towards the back and into oblivion and only being bought by a manufacturer will stop the rot. Last year they went for reliability and coupled with the better Ferrari power unit bagged some points early on, but I dunno if they can do the same this year. Think Nasr did well on occasion last season, but Ericsson isn't up to much. Younger, more ambitious teams like Haas are going to give them a bit of a go this season I think. 

[FullThrottleF1]

Can't help feel that Sauber are slowly slipping back down the grid towards the back and into oblivion and only being bought by a manufacturer will stop the rot. Last year they went for reliability and coupled with the better Ferrari power unit bagged some points early on, but I dunno if they can do the same this year. Think Nasr did well on occasion last season, but Ericsson isn't up to much. Younger, more ambitious teams like Haas are going to give them a bit of a go this season I think. 

I think they are destined to be backmarkers, hard to see how they can cope with the well-funded Haas team or the Merc engines of the Manors. Such a shame how far they have fallen since 2012.

[Marklar]

Sauber car launched

 

BLICK Sport  ‏@BLICK_Sport

So sieht der #Sauber 2016 aus! http://bit.ly/1WAawt8  @roger_benoit

 

 

 

Edit: actually it's the 2015 car with the new livery

Edited by Marklar, 21 February 2016 - 11:11.

[ckolcz]

Sauber and new sponsors?

[Jimisgod]

I think they are destined to be backmarkers, hard to see how they can cope with the well-funded Haas team or the Merc engines of the Manors. Such a shame how far they have fallen since 2012.

 

Mismanagement. Monisha should have been canned after the 4 drivers debacle, if not earlier.

[Gilles4Ever]

Mismanagement. Monisha should have been canned after the 4 drivers debacle, if not earlier.

You would think that if the shareholders thought that were true they would have.

[turssi]

Malbuner Power Slice? Sounds like a pizza place :-)

[Gilles4Ever]

that "interim livery" for the first teat looks awfully similar to last year's. I can't see any difference to the car either.

[TheRacingElf]

So they have maintained the "Ikea" livery...Such a shame, there is so much more exciting things you can do with those colours 

[Knowlesy]

Mismanagement. Monisha should have been canned after the 4 drivers debacle, if not earlier.

The rest of her work has been fine. She does a good job in very difficult circumstances.

I like how Sauber have dumped every sponsor on the rear wing!

[Stephane]

You would think that if the shareholders thought that were true they would have.

Isn't she a shareholder herself ?

[Marklar]

The main shareholder is Peter Sauber (holds two thirds). He could dump Kaltenborn (I think she holds one third), but he isnt doing that (and the tabloids in Switzerland are critizising him for that). Guess he can't afford it in the current financial situation.

Edited by Marklar, 21 February 2016 - 12:48.

[Clrnc]

Really sick of this livery. Such  a backmarker livery. 

[muramasa]

So they have maintained the "Ikea" livery...Such a shame, there is so much more exciting things you can do with those colours 

Ikea

in a parallel world where advertizement of furniture is banned, Ikea purchases all the space of  Sauber and re-sell bits of spaces to others and dictate the whole livery

[Mat13]

That livery is not new, nor is it a livery. It's the same blue car with a shapeless yellow blob on the side from last year. Someone at Sauber needs to be replaced...

[Jimisgod]

You would think that if the shareholders thought that were true they would have.

 

She is much of the shareholders

[Gilles4Ever]

[Murl]

Sauber have been financially challenged ever since BMW dropped them like a hot brick. They have never had a stable sponsor situation since.

Think that it is quite impressive that they are still around, given what has happened all around them. Lotus/caterham, Virgin/Marussia/Manor, Hispania/HRT and of course Renault/Lotus/Renault.

 

 

I'm not impressed with them.

[Murl]

You would think that if the shareholders thought that were true they would have.

 

 

Exactly.

 

 

A team owned by people that support a manager that is a blatant fraud.

 

Not a lot to respect there.

[Clrnc]

Actually did anybody realise this Sauber is not last year's Sauber? The sidepods is completely different. 

[Gilles4Ever]

Sauber are only introducing the new car at the next test (Monday),  they running last year's car. 

[Clrnc]

Yeah I know, just noticing that there is a lot of differences between the car of last year and this year.

 

Edited by Clrnc, 23 February 2016 - 01:08.

[Disgrace]

The car above is nonetheless the one that competed at Abu Dhabi last year.

[Marklar]

Sauber F1 Team ‏@SauberF1Team

Goodbye C34. Welcome #SauberC35! Now on >> http://sauberf1team.com/en/  #SauberF1Team #JoinOurPassion #Racing #F1

 

 

 

Edited by Marklar, 29 February 2016 - 10:52.

[FullOppositeLock]

Could have fooled me

[Marklar]

The airbox

[Kristian]

The airbox

 

Reminds me of this 

 

[ConsiderAndGo]

Really like the look of that!

[Disgrace]

Are Sauber running a low chassis? The incline at the front of the car is much less dramatic than that of anybody else. That said however I think the Haas is quite similar in profile.

[Gilles4Ever]

Lawrence Barretto @lawrobarretto

Sauber launches 2016 car. Kaltenborn wants team to become established midfield runner. #f1 autosport.com/news/report.ph…

 

we are going to have a lot of midfield cars this year and no backmarkers

[Gilles4Ever]

Craig Scarborough @ScarbsF1

New sauber. Not a lit has vusually changed. That's one seriously undercut roll hoop . Odd rear wing mount.

[Music Lover]

Good progress considering the tight budget. 

With a 2016 Ferrari engine, they have a good base to build from. 

[Jon83]

I don't see the issue with the livery. It won't win too many awards for sure but it is fairly distinctive compared to some of the others.

[Gilles4Ever]

[Kristian]

I don't see the issue with the livery. It won't win too many awards for sure but it is fairly distinctive compared to some of the others.

 

The blue seems a bit deeper which makes it look less washed out; not sure if its just the studio pics though. I like it - as you say, its the one splash of colour on the grid! It should look nice when they are getting lapped. 

[Gilles4Ever]

F1 Fanatic @f1fanatic_co_uk

Close-up pictures of the new Sauber C35 launched today: f1fanatic.co.uk/2016/02/29/sau… #F1

 

[FullOppositeLock]

Looks quite chuncky

[RedBaron]

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