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#1 Seedy

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Posted 13 February 2016 - 10:42

The Great Mountain Rally in the USA 1953 & 1954

The Sunbeam Talbot/Alpine team entered the GMR in 1953 and 1954. I have some information about the event but not a lot. But can anyone please fill in some of the gaps for me?

There is some history on this link
https://stevemckelvi...y-of-the-1950s/


1953
Alpine - S Johnson & J Richard-Cram - Comp no ??, 6th overall 1st in class
Alpine - S van Damm & R Kessell - Comp no 67, 18th overall 2nd in class
Mk2A - I Garrad & ? Carter - Comp no ??, 13th overall 2nd in class
Mk2A - K Krag-Kraczkiewicz & WG Giltzgow - Comp no ??, 8th overall and 1st in class
Number plates for all??
Sunbeam take the Team Award

1954
Alpine - S van Damm & A Hall – Comp no 51, overall ?? class ??
Alpine - S Moss & R Kessell – Comp no 52, overall ?? class ??
Alpine - K Krag-Kraczkiewicz & WG Giltzgow – Comp no 53, overall ?? class ??
Mk2A - F Gaustini & V Massino - Comp no 6, overall ?? class ??
Alpine - GW Goldsmith & C Hall - Comp no 35, overall ?? class ??
Mk2A - R Libby & RJ Casey – Comp no 36, overall ?? class ??
Number plates for all??
Sunbeam take the Team Award

Thanks for any help you can give
Chris

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#2 Rupertlt1

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Posted 13 February 2016 - 11:27

Full title: Great American Mountain Rallye

1953: Car #33, Sunbeam-Talbot, crew Charles W. “Chuck” Stockey, Eric Roberts, Gord Barber from Toronto, Canada.

(PM me with email address - I have pic.)

I. Garrad was Ian Garrad, son of Norman Garrad, Rootes Competition manager.

I believe he was based in Hamilton, Ontario at that time.

See:

http://sunbeamtiger....emberingian.pdf

Meet Laura Garrad:

http://www.bss.ab.ca...tion/guests.htm

Carter is Ray Carter, also based in Hamilton, later ran a business - Carter's British Cars. Three man crew - Don Fedeski was navigator.

http://www.racingspo...Carter-CDN.html

Note: Canadian number plates changed annually at that time making it difficult to trace cars from year to year.

See also: http://forums.autosp...-jaguar-fifties

 

Sherwood Johnston (not Johnson).

 

RGDS RLT


Edited by Rupertlt1, 13 February 2016 - 18:34.


#3 Seedy

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Posted 13 February 2016 - 19:48

Rupert

 

Happy to pm if I knew where to on this site.

 

Tell me which button...

 

Chris



#4 Tim Murray

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Posted 13 February 2016 - 20:03

Either hover your cursor over his user name, when a box containing a 'send message' button will pop up, or click on the user name, which will bring up his profile which again includes the 'send message' button.

#5 Seedy

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Posted 14 February 2016 - 14:14

Tim

 

Thanks for the heads up on sending a pm, which I have now done

 

Thanks

Chris



#6 fbarrett

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Posted 14 February 2016 - 17:54

Through no fault of my own, I just happen to have a complete entry packet for the 1954 Great Mountain Rally, which includes the rules, SCCA competition regulations, and the route. It does not contain the results. Too much to scan and post here, but what do you want to know?

 

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#7 Seedy

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Posted 14 February 2016 - 19:20

Frank

 

For the 1954 GAMR I have no results overall or class positions. See my first post at the head of this subject to clarify.

 

But as you only have the regulations & route we might draw a blank on that.

 

I would have to say I know nothing about the Great American Mountain Rally. Could you please just post a brief outline of the route?

 

Many thanks

Chris



#8 Rupertlt1

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Posted 05 March 2016 - 16:36

Winners in 1954 were S.C. Grauds/Arthur J. Mulligan (Oldsmobile).

 

According to Steve McKelvie:

 The Overall winners were Bill Grauds with Art Mulligan as the navigator in the 1954 Oldsmobile.  Second place was William Buick with Emil Buick navigating in an Austin Healey 100.  Third place went to the Canadian team of George William Scully with Neil Bryson in a Jaguar XK120.

 

1954 Route:

"The route of the rally runs

from New York up through Con-

necticut, Massachusetts, Vermont,

and New Hampshire to within a

few miles of the Canadian border,

and then back down to Poughkeepsie,

N.Y. Much of the route will be

over unpaved back roads."

 

Millbrook Round Table, Thursday Nov 4, 1954:

AAA Sanctioned Auto

Rally Thanksgiving Week

Thanksgiving has come to mean

more than a family gathering over

the annual turkey to the motor

sports enthusiast. It is also the

time for the Second Annual Great

American Mountain Rallye or-

ganized by the Motor Sports Club

of America.

On the morning of November

25th at 7 a.m. a caravan of com-

petition cars will leave the 79th

Street Boat Basin in New York

City at two minute intervals for

a gruelling endurance run of 1100

miles. The AAA sanctioned (No.

11554) event is a three-day test

of driver skills and automobile en-

durance and is the only event of

its kind in this country recognized

on the F.I.A. calendar of interna-

tional sporting events. Cars will

travel through the most desolate

country in northern New England,

going through New York, Connec-

ticut, Massachusetts, Vermont,

New Hampshire and ending on No-

vember 28th at Poughkeepsie, New

York.

 

RGDS RLT 


Edited by Rupertlt1, 06 March 2016 - 20:39.


#9 Rupertlt1

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Posted 14 January 2022 - 20:16

1953 Provisional Results

General Classification:

1. S. B. Blodget (M.G.), 3,899 marks;

2. W. Dewess (Jaguar), 3,866;

3. N. J. Joseph (Jaguar), 3,838;

4. L. Ziluca (M.G.), 3,834;

5. R. Samis (Dodge);

6. A. E. Goldschmidt (Studellac);

7. Sherwood Johnston (Sunbeam Alpine);

8. D. Bekrag (Sunbeam-Talbot);

9. J. B. Scanneli (Jaguar),

Sports Class up to 1,500 c.c.: L. Ziluca (M.G.).

1,500-3,000 c.c.: 1. Sherwood Johnston (Sunbeam Alpine); 2. Sheila van Damm (Sunbeam Alpine) (18th in Gen. Classification).

Over 3,000 c.c.: 1. J. B. Scannell (Jaguar).

Touring Class, up to 1,500 c.c.: 1. Miss M. Phillips (Volkswagen).

1,500-3,000 c.c.: 1. D. Bekrag (Sunbeam-Talbot); 2. I. Garrad (Sunbeam-Talbot).

Over 3,000 c.c.: J. R. Ghent (Jaguar).

Manufacturers Team Award: Sunbeam/Sunbeam-Talbot (Rootes Motors Inc,). Drivers: Sherwood Johnston, Sheila van Damm, Ian Garrad.

 

RGDS RLT



#10 Rupertlt1

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Posted 10 August 2023 - 15:48

Jaguar in America by John F. Dugdale, 1993, Page 147:

"Even back in the early days at Rootes we had produced an amateurish film record of "The Great American Mountain Rally" of 1953, unfortunately long lost."

Could this be lurking in some archive somewhere?

 

RGDS RLT


Edited by Rupertlt1, 10 August 2023 - 15:53.