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[Marklar]

Tuesday, 1st March - Friday, 4th March, 9:00-18:00 CET (8:00-17:00 GMT,  lunch break: 13-14 CET, 12-13 GMT)
 
After requested in the old thread, here comes the thread for the 2nd (and last) test in Barcelona.
 
I will post the whole testing schedule as soon as all are available....

             Tuesday             Wednesday           Thursday            Friday
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Haas         Gutierrez           Gutierrez           Grosjean            Grosjean/Gutierrez
Ferrari      Raikkonen           Vettel              Raikkonen           Vettel
Force India  Hulkenberg          Perez               Hulkenberg          Perez
McLaren      Alonso              Button              Alonso              Button
Mercedes     Rosberg - Hamilton  Hamilton - Rosberg  Rosberg - Hamilton  Hamilton - Rosberg
Manor        Haryanto            Wehrlein            Wehrlein            Haryanto
Red Bull     Kvyat               Ricciardo           Kvyat               Ricciardo
Renault      Magnussen           Magnussen           Palmer              Palmer
Sauber       Nasr                Ericsson            Nasr                Ericsson
Toro Rosso   Verstappen          Sainz               Verstappen          Sainz
Williams     Bottas              Bottas              Massa               Massa

For all 4 days no rain is forecasted, temperatures will be below 20°C though http://www.bbc.com/weather/3128760
 
The links to follow the test
Autosport (Day 1, Day 2, Day 3, Day 4)
F1today (Day 1, Day 2, Day 3, Day 4)
BBC (Day 1, Day 2, Day 3, Day 4)
ESPN (Day 1, Day 2, Day 3, Day 4)
Sky
Motorsport.com
Crash.net
F1i
AMuS (German)
FormulaPassion (Italian)
LaF1es (Spanish)
CaranddrivertheF1 (Spanish)
Eurosport (French)
F1-direct (French)
 
For the people who prefer to chat ;)
 
Sauber's 2016 challenger will make its late debut in this test. We'll also see a first glimpse of the current pecking order: Can Ferrari challenge Mercedes? Who will be best of the rest? What can McLaren do? And how strong are Manor and Haas really? It is the last test before the season start in Melbourne. Let's go.

Edited by Marklar, 04 March 2016 - 08:03.

[Otaku]

Thanx Marklar for opening this thread 

[FullOppositeLock]

Looking forward to tomorrow's 8:15 Toro Rosso livery presentation before the test as well.

[Wingcommander]

Some "tyre corrected" lap times. I simply assumed that there is a 0,75s dífference between each compound and calculated a lap time on ultra softs.

 

FI 1:22,3

Mercedes 1:22,6

Ferrari 1:22,8

STR 1:23,1

RB 1:23,5

Sauber (2015) 1:23,7

Renault 1:23,7

Haas 1:24,0

Williams 1:24,1

Manor 1:24,4

McLaren 1:24,5

 

All this really shows is that we probably don't have a clue who is really fast? I'm expecting Mercedes to be able to do a 1:21,0 just based on Sauber's lap time.

[Joseki]

I'm looking forward to see how McLaren-Honda will perform with the new power unit.

[thegforcemaybewithyou]

Best laptimes since 2014:

 

2014 test: 1:24.871 Lotus SuperSoft

2014 GP: 1:25.232 Mercedes Medium

 

2015 test: 1:22.792 Mercedes Soft

2015 GP: 1:24.681 Mercedes Medium

 

2016 test: 1:22.810 Ferrari UltraSoft

Edited by thegforcemaybewithyou, 29 February 2016 - 08:17.

[FullThrottleF1]

Looking forward. Why does the test start on Tuesday and not today?

[rghojai]

I'll be interested to see what happens on the track, but I'm actually more enthusiastic about the chatting w. the kiwi thing.

[thegamer23]

To get into the mood!

Will we see Mercedes unleashing the Kraken this time around? 

Edited by thegamer23, 29 February 2016 - 08:23.

[GrumpyYoungMan]

Looking forward. Why does the test start on Tuesday and not today?

To give teams transport time? As the last test only finished Thursday... ?

[TheRacingElf]

Hadn't even realised the 2nd test would already be this week! Testing this year is practically 1 long test of 8 days, there is very little you can do between Thursday and Tuesday. 

 

I know they draw the cost saving card every time the see fit but they are also constantly talking about safety. To me, to go racing with prototype machines with nearly no testing is dangerous. Yes, most teams have experience with building F1 cars but the cars are still brand new and teams have just 8 days (or in Sauber's case just 4 days) to make sure those prototypes don't fall apart.

 

Drivers practically just have 4 days to get to grips with their new car, that's if the car doesn't break down otherwise it'll be even less. In case of the rookies, they also just have 4 days of testing but not only to getting to grips with their new car but also getting to grips with a Formula 1 car in general.

 

I think the testing restrictions have gone too far, they constantly talk about developing technology but yet they don't really have the time to properly test this newly developed technology and put their drivers in a so to speak untested car.

 

I know I'm exaggerating a bit but if you look at it from this perspective I find it a bit hypocritical to hear them constantly talking about safety.

[DrF]

It's a pity they didn't give the reserve drivers a chance to drive the cars on the 5th day.

[DrF]

https://www.youtube....h?v=DAKxkd7tcBs
To get into the mood!

Will we see Mercedes unleashing the Kraken this time around?

No Renault sounds?

Watching and hearing the Ferrari and Merc on track together was fun, but the Merc looks utterly dominant while the Ferrari is on the ragged edge.

Honda sounds like a motorcycle!

[SenorSjon]

Hadn't even realised the 2nd test would already be this week! Testing this year is practically 1 long test of 8 days, there is very little you can do between Thursday and Tuesday. 

 

I know they draw the cost saving card every time the see fit but they are also constantly talking about safety. To me, to go racing with prototype machines with nearly no testing is dangerous. Yes, most teams have experience with building F1 cars but the cars are still brand new and teams have just 8 days (or in Sauber's case just 4 days) to make sure those prototypes don't fall apart.

 

Drivers practically just have 4 days to get to grips with their new car, that's if the car doesn't break down otherwise it'll be even less. In case of the rookies, they also just have 4 days of testing but not only to getting to grips with their new car but also getting to grips with a Formula 1 car in general.

 

I think the testing restrictions have gone too far, they constantly talk about developing technology but yet they don't really have the time to properly test this newly developed technology and put their drivers in a so to speak untested car.

 

I know I'm exaggerating a bit but if you look at it from this perspective I find it a bit hypocritical to hear them constantly talking about safety.

 

I agree, it is like firing any manned spacecraft without ever testing it. 

 

A glorified testing season like McLaren had, should never happen again. They spend upwards of 2-300 million for nothing, while 10-20m worth of testing would have hammered out most gremlins and it would be near the front. I'm no McLaren fan, but I find it hard to see a former opponent in such bitter times.

 

The other one, Williams, have not won a race since 2005. Yes, the planets aligned in 2012, but other than that, that is quite bleak for a team owning the nineties.

[Stephane]

McLaren ‏@McLarenF1  18 minil y a 18 minutesVoir la traduction

Test 2 kicks off tomorrow, with Fernando taking the wheel Tuesday and Thursday and JB Wednesday and Friday.

 Jenson Button et Fernando Alonso

Répondre

 

Retweeter

 

 

 

Plus

Edited by Stephane, 29 February 2016 - 09:44.

[TomNokoe]

On my way to Barcelona as we speak.

Hoping Hamilton shares Day 2 with Seb so that me and my girlfriend (Vettel fan) can spend Tuesday being touristy and then see both of our drivers on the same day

[Sheldon835]

I guess we get a better picture of where McLaren are at come Friday. I hope there is encouraging news.

[kosmos]

I guess we get a better picture of where McLaren are at come Friday. I hope there is encouraging news.

 

Me too, we need some hope before the season starts.

[Marklar]

Jennie Gow ‏@JennieGow

#F1 Mercedes confirm drivers will rotate half days again this week - starting with ROS tomorrow AM then HAM PM (jetting in from LA)

[GrumpyYoungMan]

 

Jennie Gow ‏@JennieGow

#F1 Mercedes confirm drivers will rotate half days again this week - starting with ROS tomorrow AM then HAM PM (jetting in from LA)

 

So the season is starting the way last season ended by partying? :/

 

Maybe Rosbergs year after all...

[Marklar]

So the season is starting the way last season ended by partying? :/

 

Maybe Rosbergs year after all...

Hamilton is already in the UK....

Edited by Marklar, 29 February 2016 - 10:11.

[noikeee]

Hadn't even realised the 2nd test would already be this week! Testing this year is practically 1 long test of 8 days, there is very little you can do between Thursday and Tuesday. 

 

I know they draw the cost saving card every time the see fit but they are also constantly talking about safety. To me, to go racing with prototype machines with nearly no testing is dangerous. Yes, most teams have experience with building F1 cars but the cars are still brand new and teams have just 8 days (or in Sauber's case just 4 days) to make sure those prototypes don't fall apart.

 

Drivers practically just have 4 days to get to grips with their new car, that's if the car doesn't break down otherwise it'll be even less. In case of the rookies, they also just have 4 days of testing but not only to getting to grips with their new car but also getting to grips with a Formula 1 car in general.

 

I think the testing restrictions have gone too far, they constantly talk about developing technology but yet they don't really have the time to properly test this newly developed technology and put their drivers in a so to speak untested car.

 

I know I'm exaggerating a bit but if you look at it from this perspective I find it a bit hypocritical to hear them constantly talking about safety.

Agreed completely.

 

I also hadn't realised the 2nd week of testing was this week already. Bit weird that they do 2 consecutive weeks. So if you find a major issue with your car the first week.. you've got pretty much one weekend to sort it out? It's ridiculous.

[TomNokoe]

Hamilton is already in the UK....

He was at the Oscars last night was he not?

[Marklar]

He was at the Oscars last night was he not?

 

I don't know if he was at the oscars, but according to his snapchat he landed this morning in the UK (at least according to the comments under the tweet I posted above)....

Edited by Marklar, 29 February 2016 - 10:30.

[EthanM]

Agreed completely.

 

I also hadn't realised the 2nd week of testing was this week already. Bit weird that they do 2 consecutive weeks. So if you find a major issue with your car the first week.. you've got pretty much one weekend to sort it out? It's ridiculous.

 

Well considering the cars (and teams) need to be in Australia on March 16th you do  need some time after the cars testing to get them back in the factories, rebuild them and ship them off. The schedule gives them what? 11 days ... I doubt they could have run a second test much later.

[keshav]

When does the testing start tomorrow? Looking forward to a lot of laps by McLaren.

[pusko]

When does the testing start tomorrow? Looking forward to a lot of laps by McLaren.

9 am, local time.
You're "looking forward, I'm "hoping"

[steferrari]

Honda sounds like a motorcycle!

 

Moto2 engine... Moto2... aaarghhh! 

[Marklar]

Red Bull Racing ‏@redbullracing 

Test Two ready. Dany and Daniel to alternate Test days in Barcelona. More http://win.gs/T2DKDR  #F1Testing

 

And like at last week's first test, both of our drivers will take two days at the wheel of the RB12. Dany will jump in the car first on Tuesday 1st and then on Thursday 3rd March before Daniel takes the wheel for the Wednesday 2nd and Friday 4th of the second four day test in Barcelona.

[noikeee]

Well considering the cars (and teams) need to be in Australia on March 16th you do  need some time after the cars testing to get them back in the factories, rebuild them and ship them off. The schedule gives them what? 11 days ... I doubt they could have run a second test much later.

They could've started earlier. Testing started unusually late this year, for example I just checked it out and last year they were at Jerez for the first week of testing in the 1st of February. The reason it doesn't feel like it, is because the season ended very late in 2015 with some extremely late race weekends.

[Exb]

This test (1st-4th March) was initially scheduled as the 1st test, with the 2nd planned to be held 15-18th March. When they rearranged the 1st race then they had to shift that test, but as teams were already planning to have cars ready for 1st March they moved the 1st test as close to that as possible to give teams a chance to still be ready, still wasn't enough for Sauber but the rest made it.

Anyway luckily this test kept the same dates (except for being test 2 instead of test 1) as I had it all booked by July

[muramasa]

[muramasa]

I guess we get a better picture of where McLaren are at come Friday. I hope there is encouraging news.

 

I prepared emojis i will use for this week already:

 

Spoiler

1st day

 

2nd day

 

 

3rd day morning

 

3rd day afternoon

 

 

4th day morning

 

at the end of 4th day

 

 

[Marklar]

I prepared emojis i will use for this week already:

 

Spoiler

1st day

 

2nd day

 

 

3rd day morning

 

3rd day afternoon

 

 

4th day morning

 

at the end of 4th day

 

 

 

Melbourne

 

[EthanM]

They could've started earlier. Testing started unusually late this year, for example I just checked it out and last year they were at Jerez for the first week of testing in the 1st of February. The reason it doesn't feel like it, is because the season ended very late in 2015 with some extremely late race weekends.

 

 

I 'm pretty sure the argument against earlier was the wasted tests run in too cold for useful f1 testing in  the past. And I think they didn't want to spring for airfreight to go testing in the middle east where the weather is generally ok in early february.

 

Plus don't forget, the central idea was to compress the F1 calendar ... Australia was originally supposed to be at the last weekend in March, moving Australia forward meant compressing testing.

Edited by EthanM, 29 February 2016 - 13:01.

[statman]

I prepared emojis i will use for this week already:

 

Spoiler

1st day

 

2nd day

 

 

3rd day morning

 

3rd day afternoon

 

 

4th day morning

 

at the end of 4th day

 

 

Hopefully Jenson and Fernando have brought a comfy couch with them instead of those hard folding chairs

[GoldenColt]

So the season is starting the way last season ended by partying? :/

 

Maybe Rosbergs year after all...

 

Coz partying throughout most of 2015 has not worked out for him championship-wise, right?

[Andy35]

nothing wrong with the tests being back to back, the cars are pretty reliable this year, even the new team, and it means we don't have too long to wait between both.

 

Nice that it ends on Friday too this week, so it will be great start to the weekend on the mIRC channel.   

 

Andy

[JeePee]

He was at the Oscars last night was he not?

Was he nominated for his role in Zoolander 2?

[rodlamas]

Gary Anderson says current pecking order is

 

1) Mercedes

2) Force India

3) Ferrari

4) Red Bull

5) Toro Rosso

6) Renault

7) Haas

8) Williams

9) Mclaren

10) Manor

 

Sauber obviously out of the picture for the moment.

 

http://plus.autospor...6209.1452546604

[Joseki]

Gary Anderson says current pecking order is

 

1) Mercedes

2) Force India

3) Ferrari

4) Red Bull

5) Toro Rosso

6) Renault

7) Haas

8) Williams

9) Mclaren

10) Manor

 

Sauber obviously out of the picture for the moment.

 

http://plus.autospor...6209.1452546604

 

 

[Marklar]

Gary Anderson says current pecking order is

 

1) Mercedes

2) Force India

3) Ferrari

4) Red Bull

5) Toro Rosso

6) Renault

7) Haas

8) Williams

9) Mclaren

10) Manor

 

Sauber obviously out of the picture for the moment.

 

http://plus.autospor...6209.1452546604

Gary Anderson confirms my impression that he has absolutely no idea

[Araqiel]

That's fuel-adjusted top times from test one, not an assessment of the actual order.

[Marklar]

Manor Racing ‏@ManorRacing

Glorious sunshine here in Barcelona as we prepare for Test 2. The action starts tomorrow when we'll have @RHaryantoracing in the MRT05.

As for the rest of the week, we'll make a call on driver run plan based on progress & weather. Keep you posted.

[ferkan]

Gary Anderson says current pecking order is

 

1) Mercedes

2) Force India

3) Ferrari

4) Red Bull

5) Toro Rosso

6) Renault

7) Haas

8) Williams

9) Mclaren

10) Manor

 

Sauber obviously out of the picture for the moment.

 

http://plus.autospor...6209.1452546604

Gary Anderson is lost cause 

 

FI at 2nd, Renault at 6, Williams at 8? What is this guy smoking?

[Burtros]

LOL you lot think you know better than Gary Anderson? I'll have whatever you are all smoking!!

 

Its been widely reported the Force India looks very very good, and I dont think hes saying its the pecking order for the first race, simply that its the pecking order post 1st test.

[rodlamas]

Gary Anderson is lost cause 

 

FI at 2nd, Renault at 6, Williams at 8? What is this guy smoking?

I don`t know, but if you get some info, please let me know. 

[f1rules]

Lol Is he serious ahahahahaha, really, good old Gary, can always bring a smile to ones face

Gary Anderson says current pecking order is

1) Mercedes
2) Force India
3) Ferrari
4) Red Bull
5) Toro Rosso
6) Renault
7) Haas
8) Williams
9) Mclaren
10) Manor

Sauber obviously out of the picture for the moment.

http://plus.autospor...6209.1452546604

Edited by f1rules, 29 February 2016 - 15:26.

[ConsiderAndGo]

Ignore everything Anderson has ever said, says in the present day, and is likely to say in the future.

 

The man is a buffoon. 

[Kristian]

Haas above Williams? I'll take some of what he's smoking....