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[Boniver]

Avus rennen 10 PS - 2,6 liter - race cars

 

10 laps 196 km

 

1. Christian Riecken - NAG 1h26.22

2. Hans Berthold - NAG

3. Willi Zerbst - NAG

4. Karl Joerns - Open

5. Hirrlinger - Horch

6. Daniel Meier - Steiger

DNF Fredrich Breckheimer - Opel

DNF Hans Von Opel - Opel

 

15 startes 

8 x ???? - ????

 

Avus rennen 8 PS - 2 liter - race cars

 

9 laps 178 km

 

1. Hans Jacobs - Brennabor   1h24.22

2. Karl Joerns - Opel

3. Fredrich Breckheimer - Opel

4. Fritz Von Opel - Opel

5. Franz Heim - Heim

DNF Fritz Mitziaff - Brennabor

DNF Hans Bakasch - Brennabor

DNS   ??? - NSU

 

23 starters

15 x ???? - ????

 

Does anyone have more info about this races

[Paul Taylor]

Here's one of my (favourite) sources:

 

Allgemeine Automobil-Zeitung 25. Juni 1922, pages 13 to 16:

http://anno.onb.ac.a...ref=anno-search

 

Edited by Paul Taylor, 02 August 2016 - 18:59.

[Boniver]

Paul,

 

Thank you - great source.

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first rennen

7. Otto Reif - Simson Surpa

 

7 x ????? - ??????

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second rennen

DNF Robert Dunlop - Dinos

DNF Kurt Volkhardt - Steiger

DNF Frans Leuschner - Steiger

DNF Ernest Lehmann - Selve

DNF Koster - Selve

 

3 x ???? - Heim

1 x ???? - Selve

3 x ???? - Fafnir

3 x ???? - Durkoff

2 x ???? - Presto

 

 

 

 

[Paul Taylor]

I'm sure if you search through these newspapers, you will find the answers you are looking for:

 

http://zefys.staatsb...-11/?no_cache=1
http://zefys.staatsb...-12/?no_cache=1
http://zefys.staatsb...-13/?no_cache=1

[Boniver]

Simon

thank you,, marvelous.....

 

The Avusrennen were one of the first race after the World War I, that were drive on a highway and with racingcars.

 

Why Hans Etzrodt the Avus race of 1921 and 1922 not important find is the list of GP winners, remains for my a mystery.

[Boniver]

1922 Avusrennen <> Franz Heim - Heim 2 L 650 kg

 

1922 Gran Premio d'Italia <> Monza - Franz Heim -  Heim 2 L 650 kg

 

the same car

 

 

 

1921 Targa Florio - Formula Libre

1921 Cascine - Formule Libre

1921 Mugellio - Formule Libre

1921 Gentleman Brescia - Formule Libre

1921 Montenenero 2 L

 

1921 Avus

was not a Formule Libre race but 2L 800kg and 2,6L 800 kg  and only for racing cars

 

I think if the name of the avusrennen was "Grand Prix of Germany"

of if the Avus circuit was is France of Italy

of the F1 was in 2016 also racing on the Berlin / Avus circuit

then the avusrennen of 1921 and 1922 was well important

 

 

[Vitesse2]

The Avus races were restricted to German drivers only, since - as a consequence of the Great War - Germany was not at that time represented at the AIACR. While this did not prevent - especially - the Italians extending invitations to German teams in the early 1920s it is likely that foreign drivers would have been (at least) 'discouraged' from competing in Germany by their national clubs. The RACB and ACF were both opposed to the return of Germany to racing and although Germany was readmitted to the AIACR at the end of 1925, no German drivers appeared in the GP de l'ACF until 1931 - although Caracciola had raced in Monaco in 1929 and 1930, joined in the latter year by Burgaller, Arco-Zinneberg and Stuck. The first German entry in the Belgian GP was 1934, although they didn't race there until the next year.