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#1 SpaceHorseParty

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Posted 01 November 2016 - 06:32

It's November again and it's time for another silly season trophy. Obviously, we have to wait a few more months until the results of the 2017 trophy, but we have already had some surprise moves. None of the participants expected Hülkenberg to go to Renault, Kvyat to return to Toro Rosso, or Stroll to be in Formula One at all. Although there are still seats to be filled in 2017, the focus will soon shift to 2018 rumors. So, without further ado, I declare the 2018 Silly Season Trophy open!

Previous winners:
2003: Brian O Flaherty
2004: Flying Panda
2005: lukywill, Viceroy, Makarias

Participation:
To participate, post a reply in this topic with the drivers you think will be on the grid in the first Formula One Grand Prix of 2018. Be sure to follow the rules and please make sure there is no confusion as to which driver you mean.

Rules and point scoring:
I’ve changed the rules somewhat compared to the previous years. This should reward correct guesses more if they are unpopular. I tried to strike a balance between rewarding the total amount of correct picks and the amount of correct, but unpopular picks – let’s see how this plays out. Hopefully, this will have the added benefit of making ties less likely.

  • 2 drivers per team.
  • 5 points for correctly guessing driver/team. You can earn up to 2 bonus points for each successful pick depending on how many people guessed that particular driver/team combination. This is calculated as 2*(1–(a/b)), where a is the amount of guesses with that driver/team combination among other participants and b is the amount of your opponents (i.e. total guesses minus one).
  • 2 points for correctly guessing driver (wrong team). You can earn up to 1 bonus point for each successful pick depending on how many people guessed that driver would participate. This is calculated as 1–(a/b), where a is the amount of guesses with that driver/team combination among other participants and b is the amount of your opponents (i.e. total guesses minus one).
  • On top of the regular bonus points, you get double points if the driver you guessed was mentioned by nobody else.
  • 0 points if driver doesn't compete. An exception is if the driver was supposed to participate but did not due to an injury or temporary ban (e.g. in 2015 you would get 5 points for guessing either Button, Alonso or Magnussen in the McLaren and 2 points for guessing them in any other team, but no points for guessing van der Garde in any team)
  • If you list less than 13 teams and there are less than 13 teams on the grid in 2017, you score points for the teams you left out (5 points per team).
  • You can list an unknown driver (no given name) in a team. You will then score 5 points if a driver that was not mentioned by any other entry drives in the team you put him/her in. You will score no points if an unknown driver drives in a different team.
  • In the event of a tie, the player putting the most drivers in the correct teams is given preference. If there is still a tie, the player who submitted his guess first is given preference (in case a post is edited, I will look at the time it was last edited, not the original submission time).
  • In case of an event unspecified by rules, SpaceHorseParty makes the final decision.

Deadline:
December 1, 2016, 00:00 (UTC)


Edited by SpaceHorseParty, 02 November 2016 - 09:11.


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#2 SpaceHorseParty

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Posted 01 November 2016 - 06:46

Mercedes	Lewis Hamilton		Nico Rosberg
Red Bull	Daniel Ricciardo	Max Verstappen
Ferrari		Sebastian Vettel	Sergio Pérez
McLaren		Fernando Alonso		Stoffel Vandoorne
Renault		Nico Hülkenberg		Carlos Sainz
Force India	Felipe Nasr		Esteban Ocon		
Williams	Valtteri Bottas		Lance Stroll
Toro Rosso	Lando Norris		Pierre Gasly
Sauber		Marcus Ericsson		Pascal Wehrlein
Manor		Antonio Giovinazzi	George Russell
Haas		Kevin Magnussen		Charles Leclerc

Edited by SpaceHorseParty, 25 November 2016 - 06:32.


#3 Marklar

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Posted 01 November 2016 - 07:07

To save you and others from an easy mistake: Richard Verschoor is too young in 2018. He turns 18 at the end of 2018
 

Mercedes    Lewis Hamilton    Nico Rosberg
Red Bull    Daniel Ricciardo  Max Verstappen
Ferrari     Sebastian Vettel  Kimi Raikkonen
Force India Sergio Perez      Esteban Ocon
Williams    Valtteri Bottss   Lance Stroll
McLaren     Fernando Alonso   Stoffel Vandoorne
Toro Rosso  Lando Norris      Pierre Gasly
Haas        Romain Grosjean   Kevin Magnussen
Renault     Nico Hulkenberg   Carlos Sainz
Sauber      Marcus Ericsson   Pascal Wehrlein
Manor       Jordan King       Jolyon Palmer

Edited by Marklar, 29 November 2016 - 15:20.


#4 markelov74

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Posted 01 November 2016 - 07:44

Mercedes - Lewis Hamilton - Nico Rosberg
Red Bull - Daniel Ricciardo - Max Verstappen
Ferrari - Sebastian Vettel - Sergio Perez
Force India - Carlos Sainz - Esteban Ocon
Williams - Valtteri Bottas - Lance Stroll
McLaren - Fernando Alonso - Stoffel Vandoorne
Toro Rosso - Lando Norris - Pierre Gasly
Haas - Charles Leclerc - Kevin Magnussen
Renault - Nico Hulkenberg - Romain Grosjean
Sauber - Marcus Ericsson - Pascal Wehrlein
Manor - Jordan King - Artem Markelov

I will update this before the deadline :)

Edited by markelov74, 23 November 2016 - 08:18.


#5 SpaceHorseParty

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Posted 01 November 2016 - 10:31

Edit - How do you guys do the table?

Put it into Notepad, separate drivers by pressing Tab, not Space, a few times, then press the Code button when replying and paste it.



#6 HeidfeldsBeard

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Posted 01 November 2016 - 13:54

Mercedes: Vettel - Rosberg
Red Bull: Ricciardo - Verstappen
Ferrari: Hamilton - Sainz
Force India: Wehrlein - Perez
Williams: Bottas - Grosjean
McLaren: Alonso - Vandoorne
Renault: Hulkenberg - Ocon
Toro Rosso: Gasly - Norris
Haas: Magnussen - Nasr
Sauber: Ericsson - Stroll
Manor: King - Palmer

Edited by HeidfeldsBeard, 01 November 2016 - 14:32.


#7 DutchQuicksilver

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Posted 01 November 2016 - 19:53

Mercedes        Lewis Hamilton        Nico Rosberg
Red Bull	Daniel Ricciardo      Max Verstappen
Ferrari         Sebastian Vettel      Sergio Perez
McLaren         Fernando Alonso       Stoffel Vandoorne
Force India     Esteban Ocon          Jolyon Palmer
Williams        Valtteri Bottas       Lance Stroll
Renault         Nico Hulkenberg       Carlos Sainz
Toro Rosso      Daniil Kvyat          Pierre Gasly
Haas            Romain Grosjean       Kevin Magnussen
Sauber          Marcus Ericsson       Pascal Wehrlein
Manor           Esteban Gutierrez     Antonio Giovinazzi

Edited by DutchQuicksilver, 23 November 2016 - 18:10.


#8 SpaceHorseParty

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Posted 23 November 2016 - 06:30

One week to go until the deadline! Don't forget to post your predictions!



#9 Costaz

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Posted 24 November 2016 - 21:04

Mercedes	Nico Rosberg		Fernando Alonso
Red Bull	Sebastian Vettel	Daniel Ricciardo
Ferrari		Max Verstappen		Kimi Raikkonen
McLaren		Lewis Hamilton		Stoffel Vandoorne
Renault		Nico Hülkenberg		Daniil Kvyat
Force India	Sergio Perez		Esteban Ocon		
Williams	Valtteri Bottas		Lance Stroll
Toro Rosso	Lando Norris		Pierre Gasly
Sauber		Marcus Ericsson		Unknown
Manor		Pascal Wehrlein		Unknown
Haas		Kevin Magnussen		Unknown

Edited by Costaz, 27 November 2016 - 17:53.


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Posted 26 November 2016 - 13:00

Mercedes     Lewis Hamilton        Nico Rosberg
Red Bull     Daniel Ricciardo      Max Verstappen
Ferrari      Sergio Perez          Kimi Räikkönen
McLaren      Fernando Alonso       Stoffel Vandoorne
Renault      Nico Hülkenberg       Sergey Sirotkin
Force India  Romain Grosjean       Esteban Ocon        
Williams     Sebastian Vettel      Lance Stroll
Toro Rosso   Carlos Sainz          Pierre Gasly
Sauber       Marcus Ericsson       Unknown
Manor        Antonio Giovinazzi    Jordan King
Haas         Kevin Magnussen       Charles Leclerc
McHonda B    Valtteri Bottas	   Unknown	     


#11 Kev00

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Posted 27 November 2016 - 10:03

Mercedes: Lewis Hamilton - Nico Rosberg
Red Bull: Daniel Ricciardo - Max Verstappen
Ferrari: Sebastian Vettel - Kimi Raikkonen
McLaren: Fernando Alonso - Stoffel Vandoorne
Williams: Valtteri Bottas - Lance Stroll
Force India: Sergio Perez - Esteban Ocon
Renault: Nico Hulkenberg - Carlos Sainz
Toro Rosso: Daniil Kvyat - Pierre Gasly
Haas: Kevin Magnussen - Charles Leclerc
Sauber: Marcus Ericcson - Jolyon Palmer
Manor: Jordan King - Sergey Sirotkin

#12 noikeee

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Posted 29 November 2016 - 15:18

Mercedes : Lewis Hamilton / Nico Rosberg
Red Bull : Max Verstappen / Daniel Ricciardo
Ferrari : Valtteri Bottas / Sergio Perez
McLaren : Fernando Alonso / Stoffel Vandoorne
Renault : Sebastian Vettel / Nico Hulkenberg
Williams : Carlos Sainz Jr / Lance Stroll
Force India : Esteban Ocon / Jolyon Palmer
Toro Rosso : Daniil Kvyat / Pierre Gasly
Sauber : Marcus Ericsson / Lando Norris
Haas : Kevin Magnussen / Charles Leclerc
Manor : Esteban Gutierrez / Norman Nato


#13 TurnOffTheLights

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Posted 29 November 2016 - 17:10

Mercedes: Rosberg - Ocon

Red Bull: Verstappen - Ricciardo

Ferrari: Vettel - Räikönnen

McLaren: Vandoorne - Hamilton

Renault: Hülkenberg - Sainz

Williams: Bottas - Stroll

Force India: Perez - Grosjean

Toro Rosso: Unknown - Unknown

Sauber: Ericsson - Wehrlein

Haas: Magnussen - Unknown


Edited by TurnOffTheLights, 30 November 2016 - 12:33.


#14 SpaceHorseParty

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Posted 30 November 2016 - 06:21

Submissions close in less than 18 hours! Make sure to post them and make your final edits until the deadline!



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Posted 30 November 2016 - 09:38

Mercedes     Rosberg     Vettel
Red Bull     Ricciardo   Verstappen
Ferrari      Hamilton    Sainz
Force India  Perez       Ocon
Williams     Bottas      Stroll
McLaren      Alonso      Vandoorne
Toro Rosso   Gasly       Norris
Haas         Magnussen   Wehrlein
Renault      Grosjean    Hülkenberg
Sauber       Ericsson    Nasr
Manor        Ghiotto     Sirotkin


#16 Starchild

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Posted 30 November 2016 - 12:03

Mercedes: Lewis Hamilton - Nico Rosberg
Red Bull: Carlos Sainz - Max Verstappen
Ferrari: Sebastian Vettel - Daniel Ricciardo
McLaren: Fernando Alonso - Stoffel Vandoorne
Williams: Valtteri Bottas - Lance Stroll
Force India: Sergio Perez - Esteban Ocon
Renault: Nico Hulkenberg - Romain Grosjean
Toro Rosso: Pierre Gasly - Lando Norris
Haas: Kevin Magnussen - Charles Leclerc
Sauber: Marcus Ericcson - Antonio Giovinazzi
Manor: Esteban Gutierrez - George Russell



#17 scheivlak

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Posted 30 November 2016 - 12:31

Mercedes - Lewis Hamilton - Sebastian Vettel
Red Bull - Max Verstappen - Carlos Sainz
Ferrari - Daniel Ricciardo – Kimi Raikkonen

Force India - Sergio Perez - Esteban Ocon
Williams - Valtteri Bottas - Lance Stroll
McLaren – Fernando Alonso - Stoffel Vandoorne
Toro Rosso - Lando Norris - Pierre Gasly
Haas - Kevin Magnussen - Antonio Giovinazzi
Renault - Nico Hulkenberg – Romain Grosjean
Sauber - Marcus Ericsson – Charles Leclerc
Manor - Pascal Wehrlein – unknown driver



#18 Anderis

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Posted 30 November 2016 - 18:40

Let's have some fun:

Mercedes: Esteban Ocon - Nico Rosberg

Red Bull: Daniel Ricciardo - Max Verstappen

Ferrari: Sebastian Vettel - Lewis Hamilton

Force India: Sergio Perez - Sergei Sirotkin

Williams: Lance Stroll - Valtteri Bottas

McLaren: Stoffel Vandoorne - Carlos Sainz Jr

Toro Rosso: Unknown - Unknown

Haas: Romain Grosjean - Unknown

Renault: Nico Hulkenberg - Antonio Giovinazzi

Sauber: Marcus Ericsson - Charles Leclerc

Manor to not race in 2018



#19 SpaceHorseParty

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Posted 01 December 2016 - 21:54

Thank you, submissions are closed. I will post statistics in a few days.



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#20 Anderis

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Posted 02 December 2016 - 13:16

I realised after the deadline that Magnussen has contract for 2018 with Haas. :|

 

Well, contracts can be broken, there is still hope. :p



#21 noikeee

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Posted 02 December 2016 - 15:22

I realised after the deadline that Magnussen has contract for 2018 with Haas. :|

 

Well, contracts can be broken, there is still hope. :p

 

Maybe he'll win the championship next season and then retire.

 

Bloody hell, couldn't Nico have announced it 2 days earlier? Ruined my predictions completely. In my prediction don't even have Wehrlein in the sport by '18!



#22 scheivlak

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Posted 02 December 2016 - 15:28

As you can see, I have no problem with the date of his announcement  :D



#23 markelov74

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Posted 02 December 2016 - 16:58

So we all fail lol :drunk:



#24 scheivlak

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Posted 02 December 2016 - 20:04

Not everyone   ;)



#25 markelov74

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Posted 02 December 2016 - 20:25

Not everyone   ;)

 

HOW DID YOU GUESS IT  :yawnface:  :yawnface:



#26 scheivlak

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Posted 02 December 2016 - 20:44

By looking at Vivian  :D



#27 DutchQuicksilver

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Posted 03 December 2016 - 11:40

When I look at scheivlak's guesses, he could be right on a lot of seats. Vettel to Mercedes, Ricciardo to Ferrari and Sainz to Red Bull.

#28 Marklar

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Posted 03 December 2016 - 12:27

I'm sure when scheivlak is going to retire he will reveal his winning formula for all these games  :p



#29 Anderis

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Posted 03 December 2016 - 13:02

I guess scheivlak has to have a time machine. He goes to the future, checks the results, comes back to present, makes a few subtle changes between his guesses and reality to make things looking less suspicious and then enjoys the success.  :p 



#30 SpaceHorseParty

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Posted 03 December 2016 - 20:45

Rosberg's announcement must have been a shock to all players except scheivlak. Some of the players opted to experiment with the second seat at Mercedes, but nobody besides him expected Rosberg to leave F1, or even leave Mercedes for that matter. One wonders how creative the players would have got if Rosberg made his announcement during the podium interviews a little less than a week ago.

Overall, there has been less activity this year than the previous, but I think it will still be fun to look at some statistics:

Drivers

14: Bottas, Ericsson, Hamilton, Hülkenberg, Ocon, Pérez, Ricciardo, Stroll, Vandoorne, Verstappen, Vettel
13: Magnussen, Rosberg, Sainz
12: Alonso, Gasly
10: Grosjean
9: Norris, Wehrlein
8: Leclerc
6: Giovinazzi, Räikkönen
5: King, Palmer
4: Kvyat, Sirotkin
3: Gutiérrez, Nasr
2: Russell
1: Ghiotto, Markelov, Nato

Half of next year's drivers are universally expected to continue in 2018. A few others, like Alonso, Magnussen, and Rosberg, were widely expected not to retire next year (and it turned out to be true for Rosberg – he retired this year). Pierre Gasly is the most popular pick among the potential 2018 rookies, with 12 out of 14 players picking him. More than half of the players also expect Lando Norris and Charles Leclerc to be on the grid in 2018.
 
Of the confirmed 2017 drivers, Daniil Kvyat is the least popular pick, with only 4 drivers expecting him to remain in Formula One by then. Gutiérrez and Nasr, who are yet to be confirmed for 2017, were only picked by three players each. Of the drivers who participated in the 2016 season, Haryanto and Button are the only ones who weren't picked by anyone.
 
Three unique picks this year: Luca Ghiotto (by Makarias), Artem Markelov (by markelov74), and Norman Nato (by noikeee). All of them were placed in Manor. Should any of them appear on the 2018 grid, even in other teams, they will bring a lot of valuable points – they would bring 6 points for driving in a different team, which is more than a popular driver/team combo, like Norris at Toro Rosso, would bring.
 
More players picked unknown drivers this year than the previous: 12 unknown picks were made, an average of nearly 1 per player. Two players decided to leave an entire team (namely, Toro Rosso) without named drivers. With Red Bull seemingly happy with their current drivers and no stellar talents in their junior program, this might be a wise strategy.
 
 
Teams

Mercedes: Rosberg (13), Hamilton (9), Vettel (3), Ocon (2), Alonso (1)
Red Bull: Verstappen (13), Ricciardo (12), Sainz (2), Vettel (1)
Ferrari: Vettel (8), Räikkönen (6), Pérez (5), Hamilton (3), Ricciardo, Sainz (2), Bottas, Verstappen (1)
Force India: Ocon (11), Pérez (9), Grosjean, Palmer (2), Nasr, Sainz, Sirotkin, Wehrlein (1)
Williams: Stroll (13), Bottas (12), Grosjean, Sainz, Vettel (1)
McLaren: Vandoorne (14), Alonso (11), Hamilton (2), Sainz (1)
Toro Rosso: Gasly (12), Norris (8), unknown driver (4), Kvyat (3), Sainz (1)
Haas: Magnussen (13), Leclerc (6), Grosjean, unknown driver (3), Giovinazzi, Nasr, Wehrlein (1)
Renault: Hülkenberg (14), Sainz (5), Grosjean (4), Giovinazzi, Kvyat, Ocon, Sirotkin, Vettel (1)
Sauber: Ericsson (14), Wehrlein (5), Leclerc, unknown driver (2), Giovinazzi, Nasr, Norris, Palmer, Stroll (1)
Manor: King (5), Giovinazzi, Gutiérrez (3), Palmer, Russell, Sirotkin, unknown driver, Wehrlein (2), Ghiotto, Markelov, Nato (1)
Team 12 ("McHonda B"): Bottas (1), unknown driver (1)

Stoffel Vandoorne is universally expected to drive in McLaren, as are Nico Hülkenberg in Renault and Marcus Ericsson in Sauber. Magnussen, Rosberg, Stroll, and Verstappen were also widely expected to stay in their current teams. The most popular moves are Pierre Gasly to Toro Rosso, predicted by 12 participants, Lando Norris to Toro Rosso, predicted by 8, and Charles Leclerc to Haas, predicted by 6. Not much consensus regarding current F1 driver moves to other teams.
 
Two players expect Manor not to make the 2018 grid. One player expects a 12th team (christened "McHonda B") to appear. AJFIN will receive full points for the 12th team, should one appear, regardless of whether they have a connection with McLaren and Honda or not.
 
Average pick

Mercedes	Nico Rosberg		Lewis Hamilton
Red Bull	Max Verstappen		Daniel Ricciardo
Ferrari		Sebastian Vettel	Kimi Räikkönen
Force India	Esteban Ocon		Sergio Pérez
Williams	Lance Stroll		Valtteri Bottas
McLaren		Fernando Alonso		Stoffel Vandoorne
Toro Rosso	Pierre Gasly		Lando Norris
Haas		Kevin Magnussen		Charles Leclerc
Renault		Nico Hülkenberg		Carlos Sainz
Sauber		Marcus Ericsson		Pascal Wehrlein
Manor		Jordan King		Antonio Giovinazzi

I tried to figure out an average pick. It was a bit more straightforward this year, but there was no place for Grosjean, who was picked by 10 players, but placed in various teams.
 
I also calculated the results if the average pick comes true:

     AVERAGE PICK	134.15

 1. Marklar		121.23
 2. SpaceHorseParty	117.77
 3. Kev00		115.15
 4. markelov74		113.15
 5. DutchQuicksilver	105.62
 6. Starchild		103.46
 7. AJFIN		101.54
 8. scheivlak		 99.23
 9. Makarias		 92.62
10. HeidfeldsBeard	 92.38
11. TurnOffTheLights	 90.92
12. Costaz		 90.31
13. noikeee		 89.62 
14. Anderis		 73.92

It took me some time to make it work in Excel, I hope the scores are correct. The altered pointscoring rules seem to work well, no more ties here.
 
Of course, it might also be interesting to see the average pick now that we know Rosberg will not be on the grid in 2018. The huge popularity of the Rosberg/Mercedes pick makes this a slighly tricky task, the closest thing to an average pick that I managed to figure out involved moving Vettel to Mercedes (despite only 3 players doing that), Pérez to Ferrari (a slightly more popular move), and Grosjean to Force India, despite the fact only 2 players placed him there. This does solve the problem of not placing him in any team.
 

Mercedes	Sebastian Vettel	Lewis Hamilton
Red Bull	Max Verstappen		Daniel Ricciardo
Ferrari		Sergio Pérez		Kimi Räikkönen
Force India	Esteban Ocon		Romain Grosjean
Williams	Lance Stroll		Valtteri Bottas
McLaren		Fernando Alonso		Stoffel Vandoorne
Toro Rosso	Pierre Gasly		Lando Norris
Haas		Kevin Magnussen		Charles Leclerc
Renault		Nico Hülkenberg		Carlos Sainz
Sauber		Marcus Ericsson		Pascal Wehrlein
Manor		Jordan King		Antonio Giovinazzi
    AVERAGE PICK	137.23

 1. SpaceHorseParty	113.08
 2. Marklar		110.69
 3. markelov74		110.77
 4. AJFIN		107.62 
 5. Kev00		102.31
 6. scheivlak		102.46
 7. DutchQuicksilver	103.23
 8. Starchild		 92.92
 9. Makarias		 90.69
10. HeidfeldsBeard	 90.46
11. noikeee		 88.85 
12. TurnOffTheLights	 84.92 
13. Costaz		 84.85
14. Anderis		 63.38

Overall, the scores are lower. The biggest winner from such a rearrangement seems to be AJFIN, because he had Pérez at Ferrari and Grosjean at Force India. The average pick scores more points because less popular drivers are now included in it.

See you in 11 months for the 2019 Silly Season Trophy, in roughly 16 months for the results of this one, and in a little over 100 days for the results of the previous one. I think there might be a mid-season update somewhere during the summer break, so stay tuned!


Edited by SpaceHorseParty, 04 December 2016 - 10:09.


#31 Costaz

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Posted 03 December 2016 - 21:23

Thanks, SpaceHorseParty, good fun. Respect to  scheivlak, amazing guess  :up:.



#32 markelov74

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Posted 03 December 2016 - 22:28

Awesome stuff SpaceHorseParty lot of fun and great effort!



#33 DutchQuicksilver

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Posted 03 December 2016 - 22:53

I googled a bit, but why was Lando Norris picked at Toro Rosso that much? He has no ties to Red Bull at all as far as I know,

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Posted 03 December 2016 - 23:03

I googled a bit, but why was Lando Norris picked at Toro Rosso that much? He has no ties to Red Bull at all as far as I know,

I choose him because:

1) some other people did it and I thought they might be on something  :D

2) Max V didn't have any ties to RB either before they lured him into their shop

3) see 2: the Toro Rosso/Red Bull pipeline is perhaps the most clear cut way to a competitive seat without any financial drain, it's the most attractive route if you are a really talented guy.


Edited by scheivlak, 03 December 2016 - 23:04.


#35 Marklar

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Posted 03 December 2016 - 23:05

I picked him because I expect (hope) that Red Bull will pick him up like they did with Verstappen. Also, nobody in the RB young driver program is really good, except of Verschoor who is too young.

I didnt considered Gasly to be stil an option. Or Kari. Or someone else.

#36 TyreSmokeDownshift

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Posted 04 December 2016 - 12:32

Allow me to make my contribution:

 

Mercedes - Lewis Hamilton and Pascal Wehrlein

Red Bull Racing - Daniel Ricciardo and Max Verstappen

Ferrari - Sebastian Vettel and Sergio Perez

Force India - Esteban Ocon and Antonio Giovinazzi

Williams - Valtteri Bottas and Lance Stroll

McLaren - Fernando Alonso and Stoffel Vandoorne

Toro Rosso - Pierre Gasly and Sergio Sette Camara

Haas - Kevin Magnussen and Charles Leclerc

Renault - Nico Hulkenberg and Carlos Sainz

Sauber - Marcus Ericsson and Rio Haryanto

Manor - Jordan King and George Russell



#37 SpaceHorseParty

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Posted 04 December 2016 - 13:37

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#38 Anderis

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Posted 28 January 2017 - 10:57

Manor to not race in 2018

I would rather like to be wrong on this, but it's not always bad to bet on thing you don't want to happen. :cool:



#39 sopa

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Posted 03 February 2017 - 12:32

Don't give up folks, Rosberg may still make a comeback for 2018.  :p

 

Anyway, that's why I don't predict anything beyond the next season.