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[HistoryBuff]

It's the 8th picture down on this informative website

 

http://www.oldtimero...-grandprix.html

 

 

 

If so, was it one of the ones using a real Porsche floorpan (in which case it would have come with  sn (vin)

Also any opinions on if they made 5 or 7 Glocklers? Lately I saw an article on  silver coupe with a wraparound rear windscreen identified as no. 7.

I realize they are of historical interest and wore Porsche nameplates but I consider only the one using a Porsche floorpan to be a Porsche

[uechtel]

No, it´s a Denzel, Austria´s answer to Porsche.

[uechtel]

Nice collection of pictures btw. I think it is from the Austrian Alpine 'Rallye' (Österreichische Alpenfahrt) 1953. #49 driver is the company founder himself, Wolfgang Denzel.

 

Picture 13 (car #28) is of the same make, but in the smaller 1100 cc class, driven by Otto Feistl.

[uechtel]

If so, was it one of the ones using a real Porsche floorpan (in which case it would have come with  sn (vin)

Also any opinions on if they made 5 or 7 Glocklers? Lately I saw an article on  silver coupe with a wraparound rear windscreen identified as no. 7.

 

Like I wrote in the other thread there were seven Glöcklers altogether, six of them with Porsche power. You can read this here, here, here, also in English here.

 

The first five Glöckler-Porsches were all racing sports cars ("Rennsportwagen") - for competition only. They were all roadsters (sometimes with hardtops or "bubbles" over the cockpit for highspeed circuits) and probably not suitable for public traffic. Only the last one was a coupe specially designed for the 1954 Mille Miglia (for which it could not made ready in time).

 

if you google a little bit you can find a lot of information and pictures of all the cars:

 

Glöckler Porsche #1: http://www.porsche-f..._porsche/01.jpg - a 1100 cc car to win the 1950, 1951 and 1952 German championships

Glöckler Porsche #2: http://www.porsche-f..._porsche/06.jpg (here besides #1) - a 1500 cc car winning the 1951 German championship, at the end of 1951 to USA (Max Hoffmann)

Glöckler Porsche #3: http://www.porsche-f..._porsche/05.jpg - the car based on the 356 platform. Winner of the German championship 1952, to USA (Max Hoffmann/Johnny von Neumann) 1953, stil existing today (see also http://www.conceptca...r-Roadster.aspx)

Glöckler Porsche #4: http://www.porschecl...125756200487DE4 - a 1500 car made for Hans Stanek / Switzerland; this car is regarded as the real 'prototype' for the famous Porsche 550 Spyder model

Glöckler Porsche #5: http://forum.porsche...php?f=1&t=28390 - 1100 cc car for Richard Trenkel (1953 German Championship), later with 1500 cc engine

Note: Some sources count #4 as #5 and vice versa

Glöckler Porsche #6: https://www.classicd...arrera-them-all - the coupe built for the 1954 Mille Miglia, see also http://www.weinberg-...rsche-glöckler/

 

And I found even a picture of the Glöckler-Hanomag of 1949 - the model "#0" if you want...

https://s-media-cach...94b79b8a3c7.jpg

 

 

I realize they are of historical interest and wore Porsche nameplates but I consider only the one using a Porsche floorpan to be a Porsche

 

In the historic times obviously that what was considered to make up a car was the engine (for example Ferrari also did name all his models according to engine dimensions) . German entry lists were full of "Porsches" that were speacials built around a Porsche engine. Sometimes with Porsche chassis, sometimes not (then with VW chassis or something else). The same with all the other makes. In my opinion all the Glöckler-Porsches are exactly that: Porsche specials using Porsche components, but no real "Porsches".

 

What is the reason for your interest in that car?

Edited by uechtel, 04 November 2016 - 12:44.