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[Marklar]

https://www.instagra.../jolyon_palmer/

[Tsarwash]

Oh well. You're a nicer bloke than your dad, but not good enough for current F1. 

[flingsofdeon]

Wow...Carlos moving early, and Kvyat back in at STR?

[SonGoku]

Said it right after he won the GP2 championship. I have watched him many years in GP2 and he was never impressive. Just not good enough.

[TomNokoe]

Bizarre

[coppilcus]

That means he know other seats are closed, took the money and plans to walk it off in a private island for a month or two...

[Domi]

Bizarre

 

Not really, no chance of seat at Williams, so he took nice money that may give him continuation of career in something like indycar

[sopa]

Wasn't Gasly supposed to go back to Formula Nippon to try to win a championship there with Kvyat coming back anyway?

 

Or is that plan scrapped?

 

If not, who will drive the second Toro Rosso in place of Sainz?

[Risil]

Aw. Classy way to go out. Hopefully that attitude and determination will grace another racing series in the near future.

 

And even starting near the back, driving an F1 car at Suzuka is what it's all about, isn't it?

 

Best of luck to Jolyon, if he's reading this.

[TomNokoe]

Not really, no chance of seat at Williams, so he took nice money that may give him continuation of career in something like indycar

I just mean bizarre in the way it has been announced. It seemed like he was going to see out the season. It's almost like he's had enough fighting for the right to race in only 5 more Grand Prix.

[Disgrace]

Said it right after he won the GP2 championship. I have watched him many years in GP2 and he was never impressive. Just not good enough.

 

I too watched him for many years in GP2 and I found his championship-winning year very impressive. Palmer deserved his chance in F1. He also just about earned a second chance against an established driver. But he failed badly and was promptly replaced. If he can re-capture his GP2 form, he would be a deserving driver in another series.

[PayasYouRace]

It’s set up for Sainz to make the switch this season going by autosport’s report. I’d have liked him to see out the season, but he has generally been disappointing in his time in F1. I’m sure he’ll do well elsewhere though.

[Anja]

Wasn't Gasly supposed to go back to Formula Nippon to try to win a championship there with Kvyat coming back anyway?

 

Or is that plan scrapped?

 

If not, who will drive the second Toro Rosso in place of Sainz?

 

That was the general expectation after Gasly was only confirmed for Malaysia and Japan so far, but nothing official. Possibly the team didn't even make that decision back then, but with the new circumstances they don't really have a choice, and with Gasly himself saying he'd prefer to continue in F1 rather than fight for the SF title there's no problem. 

Edited by Anja, 07 October 2017 - 11:34.

[RainyAfterlifeDaylight]

I wish him success for the future.

[HP]

That was the general expectation after Gasly was only confirmed for Malaysia and Japan so far, but nothing official. Possibly the team didn't even make that decision yet. Gasly himself said he'd prefer to continue in F1 rather than fight for the SF title. 

That's the spirit. Gasly being able to gain experience in F1 seems to be of higher value to him, than a lower series title.

[PayasYouRace]

That was the general expectation after Gasly was only confirmed for Malaysia and Japan so far, but nothing official. Gasly himself said he'd prefer to continue in F1 rather than fight for the SF title. Possibly the team didn't even make that decision back then, but with the new circumstances they don't really have a choice.

Rightly so. If you’ve got your foot in the door of F1, why step out again? The goal is driving in F1, and SF would be a means to that end. If you reached your goal early, you wouldn’t pass on the opportunity.

[HP]

As to Palmer. May he find a series that suit him. F1 was above his skill set. Without his connections, he probably never would have made it into F1.

[Marklar]

Toro Rosso‏Verified account @ToroRossoSpy  3m3 minutes ago

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Scuderia Toro Rosso to release Carlos Sainz​ after the #JapaneseGP. At the Circuit of the Americas in Austin, Daniil Kvyat will drive for us alongside Pierre Gasly. Read more on http://win.gs/2y7fs5P 
 

 

Rob Watts‏ @robwattsF1  3m3 minutes ago

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BREAKING: Renault confirm it has reached a 'mutual agreement' with Jolyon Palmer to end his contract and confirms Sainz for remaining races.

https://www.renaults...ge.html?lang=fr

Edited by Marklar, 07 October 2017 - 11:40.

[teejay]

Ding dong the witch is dead!

[Ivanhoe]

Well that was it for Jolyon, wish him all the best and a good seat in another series, F1 was just a notch above his level.

[Spillage]

Very interesting. So who's next on the Red Bull conveyer belt to step in athe Toro Rosso?

Edit: Ah, I see. You have to wonder how Kvyat feels about all this. I bet he's seething.

Edited by Spillage, 07 October 2017 - 11:48.

[robefc]

If you were Sainz would you prefer to go up against the Hulk in a car he's been driving all season or want until next year?

[sopa]

If you were Sainz would you prefer to go up against the Hulk in a car he's been driving all season or want until next year?

 

It's like with Gasly. You take your time to settle in, so you can have a proper go next year as a better prepared driver.

[Anja]

If you were Sainz would you prefer to go up against the Hulk in a car he's been driving all season or want until next year?

 

It would be different if his future wasn't certain, but since he's already confirmed for the next year he doesn't have much to lose by moving right now. 

Edited by Anja, 07 October 2017 - 11:51.

[RPM40]

Feel pretty indifferent about this, I don't think he was ever strong enough for the sport so unexpected. There aren't enough seats for drivers like Palmer, Massa, Raikkonen etc to still be around

[Disgrace]

As to Palmer. May he find a series that suit him. F1 was above his skill set. Without his connections, he probably never would have made it into F1.

 

There's nothing unusual about that. It's only an issue because he's not good enough. It doesn't matter for instance that Max Verstappen had the good fortune of being the son of an F1 driver.

[SonGoku]

STR: Kvyat and Gasly, can't say that's very exciting. Gasly was easily passed by Verstappen and Kvyat we know how it went. The RBR programm has seen better days and you can argue VES wasn't a real RB junior, he just accepted their offer to be in F1.

[Neno]

My signature is coming to life. One of greatest days of this year.    It's party people. Celebrate. 

[Laster]

Nothing against him, I just don’t think he quite had the raw pace to make it in F1. I wish him all the best and I think he has enough talent to get a seat in another series with a decent team.

[Spillage]

The BBC's article on qualifying today describes Palmer's performance thus; "two places and 0.143secs off team-mate Nico Hulkenberg, one of the Englishman's best performances of the season."

In those circumstances one cannot blame Renault for giving him an early bath.

[OvDrone]

JOLYOFF PALMER

[Tsarwash]

My signature is coming to life. One of greatest days of this year.    It's party people. Celebrate. 

 

I find your attitude towards Palmer immature and childish. Celebrating this sort of thing is a bit pathetic in my opinion. 

[Danyy]

Torpedo man must be happy he’s getting his seat back.

[GrumpyYoungMan]

Long overdue.

Maybe Renault gave in to his demands?

[OvDrone]

Joke aside; I wish him well in the future and I'll be following him in whatever series he decides to be a part of.

A GP2 champion means a lot in my book.

[NewMrMe]

It gives Red Bull another chance to ditch Kvyat so Verstappen can win another race.

[Zilbert]

Feel pretty indifferent about this, I don't think he was ever strong enough for the sport so unexpected. There aren't enough seats for drivers like Palmer, Massa, Raikkonen etc to still be around

Feeling bullish after Ricc put tenth up on Max? You devil

[Fastcake]

He had a fair shot, and certainly deserved his chance after winning GP2. I'm sure he'll be fine wherever he goes next.

[RPM40]

Feeling bullish after Ricc put tenth up on Max? You devil

[ch103]

Indy car will suit him just fine.

[Joseki]

It's a bit sad to be replaced mid season but it was expected. Palmer seems to be a good guy and I'm sure he'll do well in less demanding series in the world (but I don't think IndyCar is the right formula for him, maybe GTs?)

Edited by Joseki, 07 October 2017 - 12:15.

[FLB]

Long overdue.

Maybe Renault gave in to his demands?

Judging from his Twitter feed, I'd say that's likely.

[Nova]

STR: Kvyat and Gasly, can't say that's very exciting. Gasly was easily passed by Verstappen and Kvyat we know how it went. The RBR programm has seen better days and you can argue VES wasn't a real RB junior, he just accepted their offer to be in F1.

 

 

It's downright anti exciting. Not enough to be bumped, Honda that is, from McLaren to Toro Rosso, but you end up with a unexperienced and an never have been driver.

[statman]

As to Palmer. May he find a series that suit him. F1 was above his skill set. Without his connections, he probably never would have made it into F1.

 

Indeed, even Leimer and Valsecchi have better racing CV's than Palmer and they never made it after becoming GP2 champ.

 

Palmer's racing career is laughable, but daddy made sure he got in touch with the right people.

[Zilbert]

I am in the mood for some troll feeding so i will indulge. What

[itsgreen84]

Probably got 50% of his money back for the last few races, he could use it to buy himself in at Williams...

[RPM40]

I am in the mood for some troll feeding so i will indulge. What

 

I stand by that statement. There are several drivers I don't think are up to the standard taking up F1 seats, nothing to do with ricciardo or verstappen.

[Danyy]

It's downright anti exciting. Not enough to be bumped, Honda that is, from McLaren to Toro Rosso, but you end up with a unexperienced and an never have been driver.

At least the stew will be good.

[FLB]

Probably got 50% of his money back for the last few races, he could use it to buy himself in at Williams...

Or an IndyCar drive. 3-4 million USD would go quite a long way towards a good drive there (Ganassi, SPM).

[Zilbert]

I stand by that statement. There are several drivers I don't think are up to the standard taking up F1 seats, nothing to do with ricciardo or verstappen.

You putting Palmer in the same category as Massa and Raikkonen is a valid statement?